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Ouch. on 16:58 - Sep 3 with 2785 viewsChris_ITFC

Players like Awoniyi and Jota at risk too.

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Ouch. on 17:06 - Sep 3 with 2649 viewsZx1988

Maybe an 'ouch', maybe not.

I imagine that their intention will be to rotate quite heavily around European game weeks, in order to utilise the full depth of their squad. Not being included in the European 25 may mean that Omari is seen as being a more likely pick for EPL games in those gameweeks.

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Ouch. on 17:12 - Sep 3 with 2556 viewscatch74

Ouch. on 17:06 - Sep 3 by Zx1988

Maybe an 'ouch', maybe not.

I imagine that their intention will be to rotate quite heavily around European game weeks, in order to utilise the full depth of their squad. Not being included in the European 25 may mean that Omari is seen as being a more likely pick for EPL games in those gameweeks.


I imagine one of the draws of Forest would have been European football. Of course the main reason was Prem football (and agent relations!)
He’d want to be in the 25 that’s for sure.

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Ouch. on 17:12 - Sep 3 with 2554 viewsPhilTWTD

Ouch. on 17:06 - Sep 3 by Zx1988

Maybe an 'ouch', maybe not.

I imagine that their intention will be to rotate quite heavily around European game weeks, in order to utilise the full depth of their squad. Not being included in the European 25 may mean that Omari is seen as being a more likely pick for EPL games in those gameweeks.


Indeed, actually might be a positive.
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Ouch. on 17:54 - Sep 3 with 2205 viewsJakeITFC

Ouch. on 17:12 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD

Indeed, actually might be a positive.


Think that’s a generous reading - it will be their best 25 (or in fact 22 due to homegrown rules) in that squad and pretty damning if the manager doesn’t include Omari in that.
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Ouch. on 17:56 - Sep 3 with 2167 viewsChris_ITFC

Ouch. on 17:54 - Sep 3 by JakeITFC

Think that’s a generous reading - it will be their best 25 (or in fact 22 due to homegrown rules) in that squad and pretty damning if the manager doesn’t include Omari in that.


Consistent with the talk of Hutch being a ‘club signing’, with Omari and Edu’s shared links to Kia J.

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Ouch. on 18:03 - Sep 3 with 2067 viewsPhilTWTD

Ouch. on 17:54 - Sep 3 by JakeITFC

Think that’s a generous reading - it will be their best 25 (or in fact 22 due to homegrown rules) in that squad and pretty damning if the manager doesn’t include Omari in that.


Would it not be a similar situation as with Chelsea in previous years where they have an almost shadow squad for the European competition? Him not being in that would mean he's in with more of a shout of playing in the PL.
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Ouch. on 18:05 - Sep 3 with 2013 viewsJ2BLUE

Ouch. on 18:03 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD

Would it not be a similar situation as with Chelsea in previous years where they have an almost shadow squad for the European competition? Him not being in that would mean he's in with more of a shout of playing in the PL.


Chelsea only left 1-2 out didn't they for qualifying?

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Ouch. on 18:05 - Sep 3 with 2006 viewschicoazul

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Ouch. on 18:03 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD

Would it not be a similar situation as with Chelsea in previous years where they have an almost shadow squad for the European competition? Him not being in that would mean he's in with more of a shout of playing in the PL.


Be interesting to see the 25 then it might be a bit clearer.

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Ouch. on 18:07 - Sep 3 with 1990 viewsPhilTWTD

Ouch. on 18:05 - Sep 3 by catch74

Be interesting to see the 25 then it might be a bit clearer.


And the league 25. Certainly, I think it would be more of a blow being left out of that than the European squad.

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Ouch. on 18:08 - Sep 3 with 1962 viewsJ2BLUE

Ouch. on 18:05 - Sep 3 by chicoazul

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Well try not to then

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Ouch. on 18:09 - Sep 3 with 1942 viewsArnieM

No sympathy for him. He threw his toys out of the pram and refused to play for the club that paid his wages. He showed no respect whatsoever. Harsh though this comment may seem, Ive no time for him now.

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Ouch. on 18:11 - Sep 3 with 1908 viewsbsw72

I read that as they see him as more critical to their PL efforts rather than the European tournaments . . .
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Ouch. on 18:16 - Sep 3 with 1829 viewsSitfcB

Ouch. on 18:03 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD

Would it not be a similar situation as with Chelsea in previous years where they have an almost shadow squad for the European competition? Him not being in that would mean he's in with more of a shout of playing in the PL.


They only did it for the dopy Conference League didn’t they?

Or if they did do it for the Europa it wasn’t for the whole time?

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Ouch. on 18:19 - Sep 3 with 1789 viewschicoazul

Ouch. on 18:08 - Sep 3 by J2BLUE

Well try not to then


You missed an apostrophe big guy.

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Ouch. on 18:20 - Sep 3 with 1792 viewsPhilTWTD

Ouch. on 18:16 - Sep 3 by SitfcB

They only did it for the dopy Conference League didn’t they?

Or if they did do it for the Europa it wasn’t for the whole time?


I don't know, to be honest, you may well be right. I just remember they did something along those lines. I had imagined that OH's main involvement might be in Europe, but assuming he's in the Premier League squad sounds like it will be in that, albeit largely from the bench, you would have thought.
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Ouch. on 18:39 - Sep 3 with 1582 viewsJakeITFC

Ouch. on 18:20 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD

I don't know, to be honest, you may well be right. I just remember they did something along those lines. I had imagined that OH's main involvement might be in Europe, but assuming he's in the Premier League squad sounds like it will be in that, albeit largely from the bench, you would have thought.


Europa for Forest much more prestigious and important than conference was for Chelsea you’d think, but either way I don’t think they are leaving out Omari or anybody else as a way of keeping them fresh for bigger games.

Is worth considering that we’d face similar issues with the homegrown thing should we make it to Europe in the next few years, value of a good academy and/or youth recruitment shows there.
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Ouch. on 18:41 - Sep 3 with 1535 viewsFrimleyBlue

Ouch. on 18:20 - Sep 3 by PhilTWTD

I don't know, to be honest, you may well be right. I just remember they did something along those lines. I had imagined that OH's main involvement might be in Europe, but assuming he's in the Premier League squad sounds like it will be in that, albeit largely from the bench, you would have thought.


Would town be missing out on potential funds with his exclusion from Europe... are European appearence add ons a thing?

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Ouch. on 18:47 - Sep 3 with 1466 viewscinnamonITFC

Ouch. on 18:09 - Sep 3 by ArnieM

No sympathy for him. He threw his toys out of the pram and refused to play for the club that paid his wages. He showed no respect whatsoever. Harsh though this comment may seem, Ive no time for him now.


So did Szmodics and I assume you have time for him?
I think it’s a difficult situation for a player - why should they be practically enslaved to a club? If I want to move job, I can - despite my ‘contract’.
It’s not what I would have done, but don’t think he deserves absolute vitriol from some.
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Ouch. on 18:50 - Sep 3 with 1434 viewsPhilTWTD

Ouch. on 18:39 - Sep 3 by JakeITFC

Europa for Forest much more prestigious and important than conference was for Chelsea you’d think, but either way I don’t think they are leaving out Omari or anybody else as a way of keeping them fresh for bigger games.

Is worth considering that we’d face similar issues with the homegrown thing should we make it to Europe in the next few years, value of a good academy and/or youth recruitment shows there.


I was looking at it the other way, that they will have added players primarily viewed as Europa League players. However important the competition is to them, it's not as important as the Premier League.

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Ouch. on 18:51 - Sep 3 with 1411 viewsPhilTWTD

Ouch. on 18:41 - Sep 3 by FrimleyBlue

Would town be missing out on potential funds with his exclusion from Europe... are European appearence add ons a thing?


No idea! But I'd imagine we'd have focused more on Premier League games, probably international appearances.
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Ouch. on 18:57 - Sep 3 with 1325 viewsfootball

Maybe he has a sore throat
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Ouch. on 17:54 - Sep 3 by JakeITFC

Think that’s a generous reading - it will be their best 25 (or in fact 22 due to homegrown rules) in that squad and pretty damning if the manager doesn’t include Omari in that.


Yep I concur. Definitely seen in a more negative light imo. You'd want your best players to be available for the key matches, and I'd imagine Europe being quite a big thing in Forests Season this year. The bottom few squad spots I could understand some jostling for squad maximisation but to not make the squad isn't the best start.

Potentially as the stories have said it looks like then owners buy rather than the managers

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