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Blackburn put case to EFL 14:58 - Sep 21 with 16065 viewsParky

To either get given the win, or replay the 10 minutes. No surprise I guess, I’m sure we’d be doing the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

Surely it won’t happen, but imagine making us go back up there to play 10 minutes, wonder how many fans would go.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 09:07 - Sep 22 with 2114 viewsGavTWTD

Blackburn put case to EFL on 21:09 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue

As it's happened several times before then Blackburn should be fined for not being able to put on a game of football and forced to put a new drainage system in place next summer.


Apparently their drainage system is adequate but has a bit of a design flaw in that it drains directly into the river Darwen but won't if the river levels are too high. Err... Ok! Sounds like they need a pump but I guess they've not worked that out.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 09:14 - Sep 22 with 2058 viewsThatMuhrenCross

I can think of at least a couple of occasions prior to the game being stopped when Town had promising attacks thwarted by the ball holding up on the waterlogged pitch. I also felt that Blackburn getting the penalty was partly impacted by the conditions. The second half wasn't a football game. It cannot be allowed to stand.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 11:23 - Sep 22 with 1838 viewsfootball

Blackburn put case to EFL on 09:07 - Sep 22 by GavTWTD

Apparently their drainage system is adequate but has a bit of a design flaw in that it drains directly into the river Darwen but won't if the river levels are too high. Err... Ok! Sounds like they need a pump but I guess they've not worked that out.


Telling that clubs not too far away that also suffered lots of rain managed to continue. From what I see on their site, there has been a lack on investment in infrastructure at the club, such as this.

But they can make the case that the couple of forks they took on the pitch made a difference. Surprised they never brought the squeegee on
[Post edited 22 Sep 11:24]
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 11:25 - Sep 22 with 1824 viewsPrideOfTheEast

Blackburn put case to EFL on 11:23 - Sep 22 by football

Telling that clubs not too far away that also suffered lots of rain managed to continue. From what I see on their site, there has been a lack on investment in infrastructure at the club, such as this.

But they can make the case that the couple of forks they took on the pitch made a difference. Surprised they never brought the squeegee on
[Post edited 22 Sep 11:24]


Right and it’s now almost certainly suboptimal for us having to play another game at a time when we’d planned a break.

We should get the 3 points if anybody.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:15 - Sep 22 with 1664 viewsPioneerBlue

Our whole game plan was impacted by the weather. How else do you explain our ability to press high with intensity at home last week but a week later we gave every BB player a meter of space. We simply didn’t want to give away silly fouls, get injured or give the ref decisions to make. He then started to make stuff up gifting them a red card where Greaves misjudged ball and player in the conditions and a pen that looked like Furlong had slid into Blackburn from neighbouring Burnley.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:25 - Sep 22 with 1571 viewsdarkhorse28

Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:07 - Sep 21 by PhilTWTD

They really can't do anything other than restage it. If it was 4-0 to one side or the other, then there might be a chance of awarding it to the leading team. But there was 10 minutes plus perhaps another 10 minutes of injury time to go, so there was no certainty of the result at 1-0.

If the teams come back for the final 10 minutes plus injury time, could they force us to play the 10* which was on the field at the time? What if players subsequently get injured? Could we claim a number of our defensive players are injured and play all our available attackers in their place? We'd have nothing to lose by doing so given the position.

*Amended, 10, obviously.

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We had 10 men, losing, and not in the game, if anything we gain a slight advantage if 10 mins are replayed, with fresh players, 10 tired players at the end of the game obviously wouldn’t be an obvious position to get any type of result, especially with our lack of resilience these days.

I’d have fancied 23/24 to get something. Not this group though. We lack the character and belief as things stand, maybe that will change, maybe it won’t.

The myopia though is really poor.

It’s like Greaves’ red card (due to conditions).

I’m all for supporting players, especially ones struggling, and he is struggling, and at 26 he’s allowed to make mistakes, every player does:

But that doesn’t as a 30 yard ball, in the air, straight, that didn’t deviate at all.

Bread and butter for any centre half at any level, even none professional.

He got the wrong side. Couldn’t recover and panicked.

It happens. Pretending it was anything other than a really poor mistake though, that’s levels of delusion I have seen in 30 years following this page.., there was always some semblance of integrity in reporting, some honesty.

At this point there’s a group, an ever decreasing rump, who are trying to pretend the last 14 months don’t exist. And we are a team that should be measured only against the lowest standards possible, to migrate the reality, that investing their ego and self esteem in individuals, rather than the club itself, might have been a mistake.

Greaves is a former championship team of the year player, clearly talented, who has played hundreds of games in far worse conditions than the point he was sent off.

It’s so poor to suggest anything other than a basic mistake he’ll be gutted to have made.

Wrong side on a ball that’s straight travelling so far, isn’t great, and if we get a replay, it’s not deserved, not warranted, and Blackburn would rightly be aggrieved.

The put more into the game: wanted it more. Had more desire, more passion, more what matters most (often) at this level.

We were poor. Even against Sheff Utd we didn’t play great, we had moments of absolute quality that were above this level.., moments. We were outplayed between the boxes at times in the first half.

The lack of objectivity has fuelled delusion .., I feel sorry for MA and KM if this continues.., because as always it’s the emotive, invested types, you’ve fuelled with a lack of honesty at times, that will turn hardest and crash hardest.

And they’ll be fuelled by hatred rather than objectivity.

MA and KM are likely way short. The leadership group of players never got the full recognition they deserved.

But KM and MA clearly added huge value during that period, and it will be tarnished by a 14 months now to rival some of the worst in our history.

A Mick team costing £2.75 would destroy this group.

Players pulling out of tackles at the weekend, didn’t want to put it in.

Phil sums up this group. Huge quality with the ball, offers zero without it .., we’ve one too many of those for this level.

Nunez offers those qualities and sits and watches the gaffer pick Jens .., a football purist .., in conditions like that. While we try and ‘play’

It’s like watching a manger find a black cat, in a dark room, wearing a blindfold, that doesn’t exist.

Basics. Play to the conditions - we were still trying to pass between defenders when it was 3 inch of water. McKennas dogma will get him the sack.

What’s the long term implications of that, after we bet the club on one man?

£200 million to find out (if true) that’s he’s not good enough.

That’s madness. £200 million and a champions league level contract.

It’s not McKenna La fault at that point. It’s woeful leadership, the poorest in our history, nobody threw so much at just one person, it’s not a strategy, the vision has been one of chaos and panic.

But we can just pretend the last 14 months didn’t happen, it’s certainly easier. More popular.

And Greaves.., just a gust of wind, or button rain in his eye, same as the last 14 months for him.., footballs too round .., and Burgess .., not ‘leading’ from the front at Swansea .., it’s a different player wit the same name.., nothing to see at all.

It’s like Stockholm syndrome at this point.., the gas lighting is breathtaking.

So little respect for people, supporters.

It’s like you think they’ve never seen a game before at times.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:30 - Sep 22 with 1546 viewsFrimleyBlue

Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:25 - Sep 22 by darkhorse28

The same teams subject to availability.

We had 10 men, losing, and not in the game, if anything we gain a slight advantage if 10 mins are replayed, with fresh players, 10 tired players at the end of the game obviously wouldn’t be an obvious position to get any type of result, especially with our lack of resilience these days.

I’d have fancied 23/24 to get something. Not this group though. We lack the character and belief as things stand, maybe that will change, maybe it won’t.

The myopia though is really poor.

It’s like Greaves’ red card (due to conditions).

I’m all for supporting players, especially ones struggling, and he is struggling, and at 26 he’s allowed to make mistakes, every player does:

But that doesn’t as a 30 yard ball, in the air, straight, that didn’t deviate at all.

Bread and butter for any centre half at any level, even none professional.

He got the wrong side. Couldn’t recover and panicked.

It happens. Pretending it was anything other than a really poor mistake though, that’s levels of delusion I have seen in 30 years following this page.., there was always some semblance of integrity in reporting, some honesty.

At this point there’s a group, an ever decreasing rump, who are trying to pretend the last 14 months don’t exist. And we are a team that should be measured only against the lowest standards possible, to migrate the reality, that investing their ego and self esteem in individuals, rather than the club itself, might have been a mistake.

Greaves is a former championship team of the year player, clearly talented, who has played hundreds of games in far worse conditions than the point he was sent off.

It’s so poor to suggest anything other than a basic mistake he’ll be gutted to have made.

Wrong side on a ball that’s straight travelling so far, isn’t great, and if we get a replay, it’s not deserved, not warranted, and Blackburn would rightly be aggrieved.

The put more into the game: wanted it more. Had more desire, more passion, more what matters most (often) at this level.

We were poor. Even against Sheff Utd we didn’t play great, we had moments of absolute quality that were above this level.., moments. We were outplayed between the boxes at times in the first half.

The lack of objectivity has fuelled delusion .., I feel sorry for MA and KM if this continues.., because as always it’s the emotive, invested types, you’ve fuelled with a lack of honesty at times, that will turn hardest and crash hardest.

And they’ll be fuelled by hatred rather than objectivity.

MA and KM are likely way short. The leadership group of players never got the full recognition they deserved.

But KM and MA clearly added huge value during that period, and it will be tarnished by a 14 months now to rival some of the worst in our history.

A Mick team costing £2.75 would destroy this group.

Players pulling out of tackles at the weekend, didn’t want to put it in.

Phil sums up this group. Huge quality with the ball, offers zero without it .., we’ve one too many of those for this level.

Nunez offers those qualities and sits and watches the gaffer pick Jens .., a football purist .., in conditions like that. While we try and ‘play’

It’s like watching a manger find a black cat, in a dark room, wearing a blindfold, that doesn’t exist.

Basics. Play to the conditions - we were still trying to pass between defenders when it was 3 inch of water. McKennas dogma will get him the sack.

What’s the long term implications of that, after we bet the club on one man?

£200 million to find out (if true) that’s he’s not good enough.

That’s madness. £200 million and a champions league level contract.

It’s not McKenna La fault at that point. It’s woeful leadership, the poorest in our history, nobody threw so much at just one person, it’s not a strategy, the vision has been one of chaos and panic.

But we can just pretend the last 14 months didn’t happen, it’s certainly easier. More popular.

And Greaves.., just a gust of wind, or button rain in his eye, same as the last 14 months for him.., footballs too round .., and Burgess .., not ‘leading’ from the front at Swansea .., it’s a different player wit the same name.., nothing to see at all.

It’s like Stockholm syndrome at this point.., the gas lighting is breathtaking.

So little respect for people, supporters.

It’s like you think they’ve never seen a game before at times.


You didn't fancy us getting any goals despite us scoring late goals this season. That's showing belief isn't it?

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:34 - Sep 22 with 1520 viewsfranz_tyson

Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:15 - Sep 22 by PioneerBlue

Our whole game plan was impacted by the weather. How else do you explain our ability to press high with intensity at home last week but a week later we gave every BB player a meter of space. We simply didn’t want to give away silly fouls, get injured or give the ref decisions to make. He then started to make stuff up gifting them a red card where Greaves misjudged ball and player in the conditions and a pen that looked like Furlong had slid into Blackburn from neighbouring Burnley.


How dare they expect us to play in those conditions? Those players could get a chill.

Please can we quickly get a resolution from the EFL in our favour before we descend even further into victimhood. This is getting silly.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:37 - Sep 22 with 1486 viewsPhilTWTD

Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:17 - Sep 21 by PhilTWTD

Jacob Greaves slipped for the red card as well. Yes, from start to finish it was impossible to play football properly, the ball was getting stuck in patches all the way through.


Just occurred to me if the card stands and the game is replayed after the suspension, which it would be, JG would have the chance to create a perhaps unique record of having been sent off twice in the same match.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:39 - Sep 22 with 1459 viewsbartyg

Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:25 - Sep 22 by darkhorse28

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We had 10 men, losing, and not in the game, if anything we gain a slight advantage if 10 mins are replayed, with fresh players, 10 tired players at the end of the game obviously wouldn’t be an obvious position to get any type of result, especially with our lack of resilience these days.

I’d have fancied 23/24 to get something. Not this group though. We lack the character and belief as things stand, maybe that will change, maybe it won’t.

The myopia though is really poor.

It’s like Greaves’ red card (due to conditions).

I’m all for supporting players, especially ones struggling, and he is struggling, and at 26 he’s allowed to make mistakes, every player does:

But that doesn’t as a 30 yard ball, in the air, straight, that didn’t deviate at all.

Bread and butter for any centre half at any level, even none professional.

He got the wrong side. Couldn’t recover and panicked.

It happens. Pretending it was anything other than a really poor mistake though, that’s levels of delusion I have seen in 30 years following this page.., there was always some semblance of integrity in reporting, some honesty.

At this point there’s a group, an ever decreasing rump, who are trying to pretend the last 14 months don’t exist. And we are a team that should be measured only against the lowest standards possible, to migrate the reality, that investing their ego and self esteem in individuals, rather than the club itself, might have been a mistake.

Greaves is a former championship team of the year player, clearly talented, who has played hundreds of games in far worse conditions than the point he was sent off.

It’s so poor to suggest anything other than a basic mistake he’ll be gutted to have made.

Wrong side on a ball that’s straight travelling so far, isn’t great, and if we get a replay, it’s not deserved, not warranted, and Blackburn would rightly be aggrieved.

The put more into the game: wanted it more. Had more desire, more passion, more what matters most (often) at this level.

We were poor. Even against Sheff Utd we didn’t play great, we had moments of absolute quality that were above this level.., moments. We were outplayed between the boxes at times in the first half.

The lack of objectivity has fuelled delusion .., I feel sorry for MA and KM if this continues.., because as always it’s the emotive, invested types, you’ve fuelled with a lack of honesty at times, that will turn hardest and crash hardest.

And they’ll be fuelled by hatred rather than objectivity.

MA and KM are likely way short. The leadership group of players never got the full recognition they deserved.

But KM and MA clearly added huge value during that period, and it will be tarnished by a 14 months now to rival some of the worst in our history.

A Mick team costing £2.75 would destroy this group.

Players pulling out of tackles at the weekend, didn’t want to put it in.

Phil sums up this group. Huge quality with the ball, offers zero without it .., we’ve one too many of those for this level.

Nunez offers those qualities and sits and watches the gaffer pick Jens .., a football purist .., in conditions like that. While we try and ‘play’

It’s like watching a manger find a black cat, in a dark room, wearing a blindfold, that doesn’t exist.

Basics. Play to the conditions - we were still trying to pass between defenders when it was 3 inch of water. McKennas dogma will get him the sack.

What’s the long term implications of that, after we bet the club on one man?

£200 million to find out (if true) that’s he’s not good enough.

That’s madness. £200 million and a champions league level contract.

It’s not McKenna La fault at that point. It’s woeful leadership, the poorest in our history, nobody threw so much at just one person, it’s not a strategy, the vision has been one of chaos and panic.

But we can just pretend the last 14 months didn’t happen, it’s certainly easier. More popular.

And Greaves.., just a gust of wind, or button rain in his eye, same as the last 14 months for him.., footballs too round .., and Burgess .., not ‘leading’ from the front at Swansea .., it’s a different player wit the same name.., nothing to see at all.

It’s like Stockholm syndrome at this point.., the gas lighting is breathtaking.

So little respect for people, supporters.

It’s like you think they’ve never seen a game before at times.


I do think it's crazy how much time you put into these posts. In awe a little, really.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:46 - Sep 22 with 1388 viewsfarkenhell

Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:25 - Sep 22 by darkhorse28

The same teams subject to availability.

We had 10 men, losing, and not in the game, if anything we gain a slight advantage if 10 mins are replayed, with fresh players, 10 tired players at the end of the game obviously wouldn’t be an obvious position to get any type of result, especially with our lack of resilience these days.

I’d have fancied 23/24 to get something. Not this group though. We lack the character and belief as things stand, maybe that will change, maybe it won’t.

The myopia though is really poor.

It’s like Greaves’ red card (due to conditions).

I’m all for supporting players, especially ones struggling, and he is struggling, and at 26 he’s allowed to make mistakes, every player does:

But that doesn’t as a 30 yard ball, in the air, straight, that didn’t deviate at all.

Bread and butter for any centre half at any level, even none professional.

He got the wrong side. Couldn’t recover and panicked.

It happens. Pretending it was anything other than a really poor mistake though, that’s levels of delusion I have seen in 30 years following this page.., there was always some semblance of integrity in reporting, some honesty.

At this point there’s a group, an ever decreasing rump, who are trying to pretend the last 14 months don’t exist. And we are a team that should be measured only against the lowest standards possible, to migrate the reality, that investing their ego and self esteem in individuals, rather than the club itself, might have been a mistake.

Greaves is a former championship team of the year player, clearly talented, who has played hundreds of games in far worse conditions than the point he was sent off.

It’s so poor to suggest anything other than a basic mistake he’ll be gutted to have made.

Wrong side on a ball that’s straight travelling so far, isn’t great, and if we get a replay, it’s not deserved, not warranted, and Blackburn would rightly be aggrieved.

The put more into the game: wanted it more. Had more desire, more passion, more what matters most (often) at this level.

We were poor. Even against Sheff Utd we didn’t play great, we had moments of absolute quality that were above this level.., moments. We were outplayed between the boxes at times in the first half.

The lack of objectivity has fuelled delusion .., I feel sorry for MA and KM if this continues.., because as always it’s the emotive, invested types, you’ve fuelled with a lack of honesty at times, that will turn hardest and crash hardest.

And they’ll be fuelled by hatred rather than objectivity.

MA and KM are likely way short. The leadership group of players never got the full recognition they deserved.

But KM and MA clearly added huge value during that period, and it will be tarnished by a 14 months now to rival some of the worst in our history.

A Mick team costing £2.75 would destroy this group.

Players pulling out of tackles at the weekend, didn’t want to put it in.

Phil sums up this group. Huge quality with the ball, offers zero without it .., we’ve one too many of those for this level.

Nunez offers those qualities and sits and watches the gaffer pick Jens .., a football purist .., in conditions like that. While we try and ‘play’

It’s like watching a manger find a black cat, in a dark room, wearing a blindfold, that doesn’t exist.

Basics. Play to the conditions - we were still trying to pass between defenders when it was 3 inch of water. McKennas dogma will get him the sack.

What’s the long term implications of that, after we bet the club on one man?

£200 million to find out (if true) that’s he’s not good enough.

That’s madness. £200 million and a champions league level contract.

It’s not McKenna La fault at that point. It’s woeful leadership, the poorest in our history, nobody threw so much at just one person, it’s not a strategy, the vision has been one of chaos and panic.

But we can just pretend the last 14 months didn’t happen, it’s certainly easier. More popular.

And Greaves.., just a gust of wind, or button rain in his eye, same as the last 14 months for him.., footballs too round .., and Burgess .., not ‘leading’ from the front at Swansea .., it’s a different player wit the same name.., nothing to see at all.

It’s like Stockholm syndrome at this point.., the gas lighting is breathtaking.

So little respect for people, supporters.

It’s like you think they’ve never seen a game before at times.


I read your second paragraph (couldn't be bothered with the rest), but I cannot see how we would "gain a slight advantage" if 10 minutes are replayed "with fresh players". Unless you're advocating that the Blackburn players should be flogged for 80 minutes beforehand?

Of course, your comment ignores the fact that both teams made copious substitutions in the second half.

Also, to suggest that we were "not in the game" is ridiculous.
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Tbf it looked pretty dangerous on 13:32 - Sep 22 with 1220 viewsPhilTWTD

Tbf it looked pretty dangerous on 16:55 - Sep 21 by Dyland

Which was ridiculous we couldn't make it playable but classic Evans era stuff. I remember ending up at the Malt Kiln or whatever it's called drinking large whiskies and feeling rather bilious.


It was playable at the start, but froze once the covers had been taken off. Not sure much could have been done in that instance, was very, very cold. The Watford postponement a year or so earlier was more inexplicable. From what I was told the ref turned up fairly late seemingly expecting to call it off, took a brief look at it and was on his way. Alan Ferguson was adamant he could have got it on given half an hour or so as there was only one patch of the pitch which was a concern.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 13:34 - Sep 22 with 1201 viewsPhilTWTD

Blackburn put case to EFL on 11:23 - Sep 22 by football

Telling that clubs not too far away that also suffered lots of rain managed to continue. From what I see on their site, there has been a lack on investment in infrastructure at the club, such as this.

But they can make the case that the couple of forks they took on the pitch made a difference. Surprised they never brought the squeegee on
[Post edited 22 Sep 11:24]


In their defence, Rochdale's home game was postponed, so they weren't the only ones to struggle.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 13:42 - Sep 22 with 1126 viewsalgy

Blackburn put case to EFL on 13:34 - Sep 22 by PhilTWTD

In their defence, Rochdale's home game was postponed, so they weren't the only ones to struggle.


And not far away on the coast, National League games at Southport and Fylde were also abandoned.

Veni Vidi Participatur. Now we can get back to competing.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 13:43 - Sep 22 with 1121 viewsfootball

Blackburn put case to EFL on 13:34 - Sep 22 by PhilTWTD

In their defence, Rochdale's home game was postponed, so they weren't the only ones to struggle.


Fair point, but other clubs nearby played and one woudl hope Blackburns facilities are slightly better than Rochdale. But it is what it is and hopefully sense prevails and we go again
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PAH on 13:57 - Sep 22 with 1037 viewsDyland

Tbf it looked pretty dangerous on 13:32 - Sep 22 by PhilTWTD

It was playable at the start, but froze once the covers had been taken off. Not sure much could have been done in that instance, was very, very cold. The Watford postponement a year or so earlier was more inexplicable. From what I was told the ref turned up fairly late seemingly expecting to call it off, took a brief look at it and was on his way. Alan Ferguson was adamant he could have got it on given half an hour or so as there was only one patch of the pitch which was a concern.


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PAH on 14:19 - Sep 22 with 921 viewsPhilTWTD

PAH on 13:57 - Sep 22 by Dyland

I have one word for you Philip... hairdryers.


That's the sort of thinking that made Britain great.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 14:29 - Sep 22 with 849 viewsPhilTWTD

Blackburn put case to EFL on 13:42 - Sep 22 by algy

And not far away on the coast, National League games at Southport and Fylde were also abandoned.


I missed those, so perhaps not entirely surprising.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 14:37 - Sep 22 with 765 viewscatch74

Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:34 - Sep 21 by Kieran_Knows

Can’t wait to go back up there and Greaves to score the winner.

Probably p!ss our fan base off more than theirs I reckon.


Pitch would be unplayable for weeks with all the tears.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:10 - Sep 22 with 630 viewsSteve_M

Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:37 - Sep 22 by PhilTWTD

Just occurred to me if the card stands and the game is replayed after the suspension, which it would be, JG would have the chance to create a perhaps unique record of having been sent off twice in the same match.


I have a feeling there's something like that happened somewhere before. No idea where or how to find out though.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:34 - Sep 22 with 530 viewspointofblue

Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:25 - Sep 22 by darkhorse28

The same teams subject to availability.

We had 10 men, losing, and not in the game, if anything we gain a slight advantage if 10 mins are replayed, with fresh players, 10 tired players at the end of the game obviously wouldn’t be an obvious position to get any type of result, especially with our lack of resilience these days.

I’d have fancied 23/24 to get something. Not this group though. We lack the character and belief as things stand, maybe that will change, maybe it won’t.

The myopia though is really poor.

It’s like Greaves’ red card (due to conditions).

I’m all for supporting players, especially ones struggling, and he is struggling, and at 26 he’s allowed to make mistakes, every player does:

But that doesn’t as a 30 yard ball, in the air, straight, that didn’t deviate at all.

Bread and butter for any centre half at any level, even none professional.

He got the wrong side. Couldn’t recover and panicked.

It happens. Pretending it was anything other than a really poor mistake though, that’s levels of delusion I have seen in 30 years following this page.., there was always some semblance of integrity in reporting, some honesty.

At this point there’s a group, an ever decreasing rump, who are trying to pretend the last 14 months don’t exist. And we are a team that should be measured only against the lowest standards possible, to migrate the reality, that investing their ego and self esteem in individuals, rather than the club itself, might have been a mistake.

Greaves is a former championship team of the year player, clearly talented, who has played hundreds of games in far worse conditions than the point he was sent off.

It’s so poor to suggest anything other than a basic mistake he’ll be gutted to have made.

Wrong side on a ball that’s straight travelling so far, isn’t great, and if we get a replay, it’s not deserved, not warranted, and Blackburn would rightly be aggrieved.

The put more into the game: wanted it more. Had more desire, more passion, more what matters most (often) at this level.

We were poor. Even against Sheff Utd we didn’t play great, we had moments of absolute quality that were above this level.., moments. We were outplayed between the boxes at times in the first half.

The lack of objectivity has fuelled delusion .., I feel sorry for MA and KM if this continues.., because as always it’s the emotive, invested types, you’ve fuelled with a lack of honesty at times, that will turn hardest and crash hardest.

And they’ll be fuelled by hatred rather than objectivity.

MA and KM are likely way short. The leadership group of players never got the full recognition they deserved.

But KM and MA clearly added huge value during that period, and it will be tarnished by a 14 months now to rival some of the worst in our history.

A Mick team costing £2.75 would destroy this group.

Players pulling out of tackles at the weekend, didn’t want to put it in.

Phil sums up this group. Huge quality with the ball, offers zero without it .., we’ve one too many of those for this level.

Nunez offers those qualities and sits and watches the gaffer pick Jens .., a football purist .., in conditions like that. While we try and ‘play’

It’s like watching a manger find a black cat, in a dark room, wearing a blindfold, that doesn’t exist.

Basics. Play to the conditions - we were still trying to pass between defenders when it was 3 inch of water. McKennas dogma will get him the sack.

What’s the long term implications of that, after we bet the club on one man?

£200 million to find out (if true) that’s he’s not good enough.

That’s madness. £200 million and a champions league level contract.

It’s not McKenna La fault at that point. It’s woeful leadership, the poorest in our history, nobody threw so much at just one person, it’s not a strategy, the vision has been one of chaos and panic.

But we can just pretend the last 14 months didn’t happen, it’s certainly easier. More popular.

And Greaves.., just a gust of wind, or button rain in his eye, same as the last 14 months for him.., footballs too round .., and Burgess .., not ‘leading’ from the front at Swansea .., it’s a different player wit the same name.., nothing to see at all.

It’s like Stockholm syndrome at this point.., the gas lighting is breathtaking.

So little respect for people, supporters.

It’s like you think they’ve never seen a game before at times.


I know Evans was a cheapskate, but I think Mick's team was worth more than £2.75.

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Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:43 - Sep 22 with 490 viewspatrickswell

Blackburn put case to EFL on 12:34 - Sep 22 by franz_tyson

How dare they expect us to play in those conditions? Those players could get a chill.

Please can we quickly get a resolution from the EFL in our favour before we descend even further into victimhood. This is getting silly.


It isn’t victimhood to expect a replay on an abandoned game when we were only 1-0 down with 10 minutes remaining.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:57 - Sep 22 with 423 viewsfranz_tyson

Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:43 - Sep 22 by patrickswell

It isn’t victimhood to expect a replay on an abandoned game when we were only 1-0 down with 10 minutes remaining.


I was responding to a one-sided post whereby our tactics and the whole flow of the game was dictated by the abhorrent weather and a referee ( the scoundrel) who made stuff up to beguile us. Apparently, we couldn't play like we did against Sheff Utd because of the conditions. And a red card and penalty was outside our control.

Yes, I do think we've gone overboard a bit on the vuctimhood. And we're likely to be the beneficiaries, not the victims.

I'm pretty sure if we were 1-0 up with 10 minutes to go ( and a man up - that you conveniently didn't mention) and the game was abandoned - we'd be a bit p1ssed off.
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Blackburn put case to EFL on 16:05 - Sep 22 with 374 viewspatrickswell

Blackburn put case to EFL on 15:57 - Sep 22 by franz_tyson

I was responding to a one-sided post whereby our tactics and the whole flow of the game was dictated by the abhorrent weather and a referee ( the scoundrel) who made stuff up to beguile us. Apparently, we couldn't play like we did against Sheff Utd because of the conditions. And a red card and penalty was outside our control.

Yes, I do think we've gone overboard a bit on the vuctimhood. And we're likely to be the beneficiaries, not the victims.

I'm pretty sure if we were 1-0 up with 10 minutes to go ( and a man up - that you conveniently didn't mention) and the game was abandoned - we'd be a bit p1ssed off.


Because nobody in the history of football has ever recovered a draw or win from 1-0 down or with 10 men, have they?
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PAH on 16:09 - Sep 22 with 344 viewsDubtractor

PAH on 13:57 - Sep 22 by Dyland

I have one word for you Philip... hairdryers.


Thats a bit insensitive, what with Phil being bald.

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