| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen 21:53 - Oct 21 with 3557 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Absolutely f**king disgusting. A few points:
- Schoolboy defending repeatedly letting it bounce off a long ball and then backing off and letting their players run and run and run and run and run. Put a f**king tackle in you spineless c**ts.
- We paid 12m for McAteer didn’t we? He’s awful. Doesn’t move whatsoever. Who the f**k signed that deal off? Sack him immediately.
- We got rid of Burgess to have the likes of Greaves in the team. Ridiculous downgrade.
- Cajuste being on the losing team is criminal. Was the only one showing any fight other than perhaps Clarke and Azon (before he was hauled off).
- Azon is way better at everything that George Hirst.
- That was the worst half of defending from a professional team I’ve ever seen. O’Shea is nowhere near as good as he ought to be for the captain and effectively unstoppable position he’s in. |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:54 - Oct 21 with 2783 views | davblue |
on Cajuste, re watch the 3rd goal. |  | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:55 - Oct 21 with 2755 views | ITFC_84 |
Agree with all apart from Cajuste.
We can not keep seeing a professional footballer unable to cope after 50 mins. He disappears every single game in the 2nd half. |  | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:58 - Oct 21 with 2676 views | J2BLUE |
We didn't get rid of Burgess. He got rid of us.
The sad thing is if you take one of the CBs, one of the CMS, Akpom and McAteer out and replace them with Burgess, Morsy, Chaplin and Broadhead we would be much better.
This squad has a higher ceiling but is not performing right now.
I still think it will come together but it concerns me how easily we're cut open. Morsy simply has to come home in January. We need him in the squad. |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:03 - Oct 21 with 2596 views | homer_123 |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:58 - Oct 21 by J2BLUE |
We didn't get rid of Burgess. He got rid of us.
The sad thing is if you take one of the CBs, one of the CMS, Akpom and McAteer out and replace them with Burgess, Morsy, Chaplin and Broadhead we would be much better.
This squad has a higher ceiling but is not performing right now.
I still think it will come together but it concerns me how easily we're cut open. Morsy simply has to come home in January. We need him in the squad. |
I'll go further and say that what we really miss is the pairing of Morsy and Mass. |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:04 - Oct 21 with 2565 views | BseaBlue |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:58 - Oct 21 by J2BLUE |
We didn't get rid of Burgess. He got rid of us.
The sad thing is if you take one of the CBs, one of the CMS, Akpom and McAteer out and replace them with Burgess, Morsy, Chaplin and Broadhead we would be much better.
This squad has a higher ceiling but is not performing right now.
I still think it will come together but it concerns me how easily we're cut open. Morsy simply has to come home in January. We need him in the squad. |
Spot on. |  | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:05 - Oct 21 with 2550 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:54 - Oct 21 by davblue |
on Cajuste, re watch the 3rd goal. |
I left on 87 mins for the 4th time ever so I definitely will not be rewatching. Awful viewing. I’d have booed and/or called them all spineless c**ts had I stayed. Best I left.
What annoys me most is our combined 25m defenders. If an under 14s team had a big striker winning the first ball repeatedly and then constantly getting across and running at the CBs, you’d tell the kids not to back off. You’d put a tackle in as a regular person playing park football. But yet our charlatans (O’Shea and Greaves) pretending to be defenders would rather just back off and off and off and off and off until the inevitable Charlton shot. Then again 2 minutes later. Then again. And again. And again. And again.
Put a f**king foot in and show some fight.
I’m so angry | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:06 - Oct 21 with 2479 views | LeoMuff |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:03 - Oct 21 by homer_123 |
I'll go further and say that what we really miss is the pairing of Morsy and Mass. |
That the key for me Morsy and Mass we firstly very hard to beat, did all the tracking and linked up play well.
We only have 1 player in the squad can do that, Morsy back please and pair him with Matusiwa |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:08 - Oct 21 with 2412 views | Blue_Uprising |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:05 - Oct 21 by The_Romford_Blue |
I left on 87 mins for the 4th time ever so I definitely will not be rewatching. Awful viewing. I’d have booed and/or called them all spineless c**ts had I stayed. Best I left.
What annoys me most is our combined 25m defenders. If an under 14s team had a big striker winning the first ball repeatedly and then constantly getting across and running at the CBs, you’d tell the kids not to back off. You’d put a tackle in as a regular person playing park football. But yet our charlatans (O’Shea and Greaves) pretending to be defenders would rather just back off and off and off and off and off until the inevitable Charlton shot. Then again 2 minutes later. Then again. And again. And again. And again.
Put a f**king foot in and show some fight.
I’m so angry |
From the last 2 games it seems like a super easy game plan against us. Put two up front on the shoulders of the centre backs and turn us. |  | | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:14 - Oct 21 with 2306 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:08 - Oct 21 by Blue_Uprising |
From the last 2 games it seems like a super easy game plan against us. Put two up front on the shoulders of the centre backs and turn us. |
The lack of any professional pride from the two CBs to let them be run at repeatedly astounds me. To just repeatedly let them run at you and at no point think ‘I’ll just make a tackle’ was a disgrace. No defender in memory at our club would’ve done that bar the two today. What’s the point in jockeying next to them and then backing off for 40 yards while the Charlton blokes run with it until they can shoot. Embarrassing. | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:16 - Oct 21 with 2256 views | Rozz |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:05 - Oct 21 by The_Romford_Blue |
I left on 87 mins for the 4th time ever so I definitely will not be rewatching. Awful viewing. I’d have booed and/or called them all spineless c**ts had I stayed. Best I left.
What annoys me most is our combined 25m defenders. If an under 14s team had a big striker winning the first ball repeatedly and then constantly getting across and running at the CBs, you’d tell the kids not to back off. You’d put a tackle in as a regular person playing park football. But yet our charlatans (O’Shea and Greaves) pretending to be defenders would rather just back off and off and off and off and off until the inevitable Charlton shot. Then again 2 minutes later. Then again. And again. And again. And again.
Put a f**king foot in and show some fight.
I’m so angry |
Same across the back line - we look set up to back off, allow the cross and make sure you get first contact. At the moment, we simply are not good enough at it.
O’Shea for the first is absolutely shocking as you say. Shows him the angle and Walton lets it under him near post. It’s awful. |  | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:16 - Oct 21 with 2240 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:03 - Oct 21 by homer_123 |
I'll go further and say that what we really miss is the pairing of Morsy and Mass. |
Well we really miss the pairing of Mühren and Thijssen but time catches up with us all. |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:17 - Oct 21 with 2217 views | homer_123 |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:16 - Oct 21 by GlasgowBlue |
Well we really miss the pairing of Mühren and Thijssen but time catches up with us all. |
Well obviously. I'm not suggesting we revert back, just observing. | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:17 - Oct 21 with 2213 views | TractorJack |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:14 - Oct 21 by The_Romford_Blue |
The lack of any professional pride from the two CBs to let them be run at repeatedly astounds me. To just repeatedly let them run at you and at no point think ‘I’ll just make a tackle’ was a disgrace. No defender in memory at our club would’ve done that bar the two today. What’s the point in jockeying next to them and then backing off for 40 yards while the Charlton blokes run with it until they can shoot. Embarrassing. |
The bigger question for me is how are we as a team allowing them to be left exposed 1v1 like that with so much space to play in, so frequently? It's an attackers dream. |  | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:17 - Oct 21 with 2206 views | Garv |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:58 - Oct 21 by J2BLUE |
We didn't get rid of Burgess. He got rid of us.
The sad thing is if you take one of the CBs, one of the CMS, Akpom and McAteer out and replace them with Burgess, Morsy, Chaplin and Broadhead we would be much better.
This squad has a higher ceiling but is not performing right now.
I still think it will come together but it concerns me how easily we're cut open. Morsy simply has to come home in January. We need him in the squad. |
I'm not having that re: Burgess. Sorry.
We all but said "Sorry Cameron, we've just bought Jacob Greaves and we're hanging our hat on him as the LCB we want to use for the next few years. You aren't going to play, but here's a contract if you want sit on the bench".
He said okay no worries, and went where he knew he'd play. Obviously no one knows the details, but on the face of it we should have made a much bigger effort to keep him.
Same as Broadhead. Yeah, maybe he'd have left if Wrexham came calling either way, but again he knew he'd been replaced by more expensive players. |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:19 - Oct 21 with 2153 views | ElderGrizzly |
Azon feels like an impotent Kuqi right now.
He’s no better than Hirst so far |  | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:20 - Oct 21 with 2109 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:19 - Oct 21 by ElderGrizzly |
Azon feels like an impotent Kuqi right now.
He’s no better than Hirst so far |
I thought he was far better than Hirst has been recently | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:21 - Oct 21 with 2086 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:20 - Oct 21 by GlasgowBlue |
I thought he was far better than Hirst has been recently |
That’s a fairly low bar.
He looks clumsy and no better control than Hirst. Maybe be just needs a goal?
Fully expect to see Hirst back again Saturday and another 6/7 changes | | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:22 - Oct 21 with 2055 views | Trequartista |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:58 - Oct 21 by J2BLUE |
We didn't get rid of Burgess. He got rid of us.
The sad thing is if you take one of the CBs, one of the CMS, Akpom and McAteer out and replace them with Burgess, Morsy, Chaplin and Broadhead we would be much better.
This squad has a higher ceiling but is not performing right now.
I still think it will come together but it concerns me how easily we're cut open. Morsy simply has to come home in January. We need him in the squad. |
If you offer Burgess the right contract, he stays. |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:27 - Oct 21 with 1955 views | LeoMuff |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:21 - Oct 21 by ElderGrizzly |
That’s a fairly low bar.
He looks clumsy and no better control than Hirst. Maybe be just needs a goal?
Fully expect to see Hirst back again Saturday and another 6/7 changes |
Our two no9s have scored 2 from open play in 10 games. Might be Akpom gets a chance. | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:28 - Oct 21 with 1924 views | darkhorse28 |
The worst I’ve seen is off the ball in 45 years., but it’s been like that a long while, a rump of fans have their egos so indexed to McKenna that can’t accept it.., he inherited a great team when he arrived.., clearly a very talented coach, obvious for a long time now, he’s not a very talented manager.
Disagree on Jens. He was one of our better players, but he’s poor off the ball defending, and was again tonight, out of position many times, not his fault. It’s not really his role CDM.., but tell McKenna that.
O’Shea and especially greaves…, I watched a fourth division side play a lot as a student, LONG time ago.
Never seen defenders even at that level who refuse to go win first balls, and need to let it bounce…, that’s not even professional level, at any standard, it’s that poor.
Hey ho.
Thought Clarke put a shift in with quality, we look good with ball, between the boxes, poor in both boxes, and ANY professional team will get 3/4 really good chances if they even vaguely attempt to press us.
These things aren’t changing quickly.., we don’t have the players for a double pivot .., we were too busy spending £70 million on inside forwards and right backs.
Ashton ultimately to blame.
He bet our long term future spending £200 million and making McKenna the best paid manager to ever manage at this level.., still paid more than 70% of premier league managers.
It’s a long season.., but if Ashton pull the trigger at any point.., it’s him that needs to go!!!
Woeful vision, strategy, planning, execution.
It was ‘hope mckenna is world class, and prey’
That’s not a plan.., it’s gross negligence. | | | |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:30 - Oct 21 with 1893 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:19 - Oct 21 by ElderGrizzly |
Azon feels like an impotent Kuqi right now.
He’s no better than Hirst so far |
Azon has offered more in his minutes than hirst has and the latter has played way more.
Azon was by a distance more of a threat tonight than Hirst who looks a shadow of his former self | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:32 - Oct 21 with 1803 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 21:58 - Oct 21 by J2BLUE |
We didn't get rid of Burgess. He got rid of us.
The sad thing is if you take one of the CBs, one of the CMS, Akpom and McAteer out and replace them with Burgess, Morsy, Chaplin and Broadhead we would be much better.
This squad has a higher ceiling but is not performing right now.
I still think it will come together but it concerns me how easily we're cut open. Morsy simply has to come home in January. We need him in the squad. |
I just don't agree.
Burgess is at Swansea - below us in the table.
Chaplin is at Portsmouth - below us in the table and he has zero goal contributions so far.
Broadhead struggling to get more than 20 minutes at Wrexham.
Morsy went to a joke league for a payday and got his contract terminated a few games in.
They gave us the best few seasons in recent memory and we should remember them for that, but they're not pulling up trees elsewhere. I love Chaplin in particular, but even in the back end of our last championship season he'd gone right off the boil. |  |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:36 - Oct 21 with 1754 views | The_Romford_Blue |
What saddens me win, lose or draw is ultimately it’ll never get better than the team of the double promotion. A combined spend of 5m taking us from a mid table league 1 side to the prem. And we replaced that lot with a team of championship all stars with about 10-12 players who have been in the championship team of the season in the last 4 years. Spent like 80m, made McKenna the 7th highest paid manager in the country, and affectively sold our soul.
I rate McKenna (obviously) but it’s just not the same. These players are individually way better but they’re not ‘our lads’ who did the impossible over two years and made themselves legends. And we discarded them for this lot.
It’s not the same. It’s just sadly not | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 10:02 - Oct 22 with 1274 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 22:32 - Oct 21 by JammyDodgerrr |
I just don't agree.
Burgess is at Swansea - below us in the table.
Chaplin is at Portsmouth - below us in the table and he has zero goal contributions so far.
Broadhead struggling to get more than 20 minutes at Wrexham.
Morsy went to a joke league for a payday and got his contract terminated a few games in.
They gave us the best few seasons in recent memory and we should remember them for that, but they're not pulling up trees elsewhere. I love Chaplin in particular, but even in the back end of our last championship season he'd gone right off the boil. |
I think the key part here is that they were all championship/league 1 players before we signed them.
But together, with McKennas coaching and style of play, they all were top championship players. | |
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| Defensively.. that was the worst half I’ve ever seen on 10:04 - Oct 22 with 1250 views | Lanky |
Cajuste offers no protections defensively, other than when he wants to make a particular effort and pulls off one of his slide tackles. Culpable for a number of recent goals given away. He is also abysmal in the final third. How many times is he in the box only to tap it at goal weakly? How many assists does he have? Poor defensively, and poor in the final third. What's to like? The glossy maradona turns are lovely, but paper over the cracks. |  | | |
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