| Not a slight on McAteer 23:19 - Oct 21 with 2192 views | Garv |
I actually thought he was okay tonight and was unlucky to be hooked. He was starting to look dangerous and had lots of space down the right linking up with Young. In a way it summed up how unbalanced and desperate we are at the moment, because we had to move Clarke over to play a position that isn't his, just because he was our only genuine treat.
But...Ogbene played the whole game for Sheffield United tonight in a 3-1 away win. Is it valid to question the decision to let him go out?
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 23:32 - Oct 21 with 1877 views | cbower |
Totally valid yes |  |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 23:43 - Oct 21 with 1835 views | SouperJim |
Ogbene out on loan and spending so much on Macateer is highly questionable.
Chaplin out on loan while getting so little quality out of Szmodics and Akpom is highly questionable.
Morsy out on a free and a new contract for the honest but workmanlike Taylor is highly questionable.
Sheer turnover of players in such a short space of time while so clearly lacking the "gel" that turns a group of individuals into a team, not to mention making so many changes between games, is highly questionable.
These are all things that will probably bear fruit in the long term, but unless we start finding out feet soon, it could all go badly wrong before we get there. |  |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 23:43 - Oct 21 with 1831 views | itfc48 |
For me Ogbene looked far superior to McAteer. The most frustrating thing for me about McAteer is how often he smashes the ball straight in to the full back’s ankles from a yard away. Got to make an angle for the cross first. I even think Johnson looked more promising on the occasions he played that role last season. |  | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 23:46 - Oct 21 with 1779 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I genuinely am fascinated to know what the thought process was to sign him for 12 MILLION QUID.
Whoever was responsible for that decision ought to be investigated. Never seen a transfer so stupid. |  |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 00:03 - Oct 22 with 1685 views | Blooos |
Started to look dangerous haha
He has absolutely no idea what to do when he gets the ball. Still yet to see him run past his man. | | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 00:04 - Oct 22 with 1659 views | FrimleyBlue |
valid, i questionned it when it was announced as was told it was because he was way off fitness,
absolutely ridiculous tranfer, but to loan him out with no recall stinks of financial reasons tbh. |  |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 06:19 - Oct 22 with 1437 views | franz_tyson |
It's a valid point, but it isn't McAteers fault we paid over the odds for him. I feel for the lad in a way... because he's had it from the start about how much he cost. He looks very average so far, but he isn't lazy or a sulker. Happy for him to put in 6/10 every game and put in a shift, but wonder if he feels he has to be an 8/10 to justify his fee.
As for Ogbene.... don't think he's as good as some make out. | | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 06:22 - Oct 22 with 1423 views | Warkystache |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 00:04 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue |
valid, i questionned it when it was announced as was told it was because he was way off fitness,
absolutely ridiculous tranfer, but to loan him out with no recall stinks of financial reasons tbh. |
Frimmers - you know you alluded to 'players the manager wanted playing with some he didn't' in another thread? Is Kasey one of the latter? |  |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 06:28 - Oct 22 with 1402 views | RIPbobby |
McAteers best game for us by a long way. He did combine with Young well. I actually though Akpom played well too. He linked up a lot better with his teammates and made good runs. Went close with 2 of our best attempts at goal.
Best our best player last night was Clarke. He was fantastic. He got even better when he went right wing. The last 5 minutes when he best a couple and put it on a plate for Phillogene was brilliant. |  | | |
| People wanting Morsy back on 06:47 - Oct 22 with 1347 views | gtsb1966 |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 23:43 - Oct 21 by SouperJim |
Ogbene out on loan and spending so much on Macateer is highly questionable.
Chaplin out on loan while getting so little quality out of Szmodics and Akpom is highly questionable.
Morsy out on a free and a new contract for the honest but workmanlike Taylor is highly questionable.
Sheer turnover of players in such a short space of time while so clearly lacking the "gel" that turns a group of individuals into a team, not to mention making so many changes between games, is highly questionable.
These are all things that will probably bear fruit in the long term, but unless we start finding out feet soon, it could all go badly wrong before we get there. |
Why? If that was to happen we might as well wave the white flag now. Age against him, legs have gone and he wouldn't be able to handle the demands of the championship now. Can we stop living in the past. |  | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 06:55 - Oct 22 with 1283 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
When Young put him clean through (offside flag went up) and he fell over his own I think legs but he got all twisted up was the sign that he is not good enough, and that is being polite.
Obscure signing and at some point soon serious questions will be asked in the house if we are spending so much money on players and getting battered at home 3-0 to newly promoted Charlton.
Only 6 months ago we were in the premier league shouting about that, if ITFC have a desire to be a sustainable PL team like a Brighton, Place etc then they have to get the basics right first and that is winning football matches.
If we lose Saturday then you would think higher ups in the club are going to want answers and quite rightly so. | | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 07:20 - Oct 22 with 1172 views | WeirdFishes |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 06:19 - Oct 22 by franz_tyson |
It's a valid point, but it isn't McAteers fault we paid over the odds for him. I feel for the lad in a way... because he's had it from the start about how much he cost. He looks very average so far, but he isn't lazy or a sulker. Happy for him to put in 6/10 every game and put in a shift, but wonder if he feels he has to be an 8/10 to justify his fee.
As for Ogbene.... don't think he's as good as some make out. |
Not specifically about Kasey here, but if a £12m signing is only putting in 6/10 performances that’s a bit of a joke for the club that signed them. |  |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 07:57 - Oct 22 with 1054 views | Blaggers12 |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 06:28 - Oct 22 by RIPbobby |
McAteers best game for us by a long way. He did combine with Young well. I actually though Akpom played well too. He linked up a lot better with his teammates and made good runs. Went close with 2 of our best attempts at goal.
Best our best player last night was Clarke. He was fantastic. He got even better when he went right wing. The last 5 minutes when he best a couple and put it on a plate for Phillogene was brilliant. |
Clarke had no end product. If dribbling into traffic is a measure of success then he had a good game. Rarely brings others into play, doesn't look up, dribbles, cuts inside and then tries to shoot. Like early Hutchinson. | |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:05 - Oct 22 with 1030 views | TractorJack |
He didn't once try to beat his man and get to the byline. Clarke moves out there and does it instantly. |  | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:11 - Oct 22 with 992 views | pointofblue |
Sheer utter stupidity. Thought so at the time and nothing has changed my mind. Keep Ogbene and spending the money on a CB rather than the fourth option being moving a full back across. Absolutely non-sensical signing which sums up our transfer dealings since promotion. | |
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| People wanting Morsy back on 08:16 - Oct 22 with 958 views | SouperJim |
| People wanting Morsy back on 06:47 - Oct 22 by gtsb1966 |
Why? If that was to happen we might as well wave the white flag now. Age against him, legs have gone and he wouldn't be able to handle the demands of the championship now. Can we stop living in the past. |
I'm going to take a wild stab that out of the 4 points I made, you're talking about Morsy there.
Morsy instead of Nunez last night and we're a totally different prospect. With Azor suspended, a thoroughly average side who were barely in the game first half, pissed through us unchallenged second half. You mention waving the white flag, that's exactly what we did. Zero reaction to any of their goals, where was the leadership from O'Shea?
In the space of a year we've essentially binned an entire team who had proved themselves very capable at this level. Where was the transition? On last night's showing we don't have a fraction of the fight, character and determination of our previous side. Morsy should not have been allowed to walk away and last night was the perfect game for him. | |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:21 - Oct 22 with 915 views | ShortyBlue92 |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 00:03 - Oct 22 by Blooos |
Started to look dangerous haha
He has absolutely no idea what to do when he gets the ball. Still yet to see him run past his man. |
That’s also my opinion
He is so sh1t | | | |
| badabing (n/t) on 08:24 - Oct 22 with 905 views | Dyland |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 23:43 - Oct 21 by SouperJim |
Ogbene out on loan and spending so much on Macateer is highly questionable.
Chaplin out on loan while getting so little quality out of Szmodics and Akpom is highly questionable.
Morsy out on a free and a new contract for the honest but workmanlike Taylor is highly questionable.
Sheer turnover of players in such a short space of time while so clearly lacking the "gel" that turns a group of individuals into a team, not to mention making so many changes between games, is highly questionable.
These are all things that will probably bear fruit in the long term, but unless we start finding out feet soon, it could all go badly wrong before we get there. |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:32 - Oct 22 with 877 views | IH_KGF |
I thought he was really poor last night, he had 1 good ball in the entire time he was on the pitch. everything else hit the man yards away from him.
I'll never understand that transfer |  | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:33 - Oct 22 with 861 views | ShortyBlue92 |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:32 - Oct 22 by IH_KGF |
I thought he was really poor last night, he had 1 good ball in the entire time he was on the pitch. everything else hit the man yards away from him.
I'll never understand that transfer |
Every time he kicks the ball into a defender
What’s the point of him ? | | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:36 - Oct 22 with 836 views | baxterbasics |
He was fine in the first half, not spectacular but fine.
Can't really single him out for forgetting how to play football in the second 45 mins, as most of the team did the same. |  |
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| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:38 - Oct 22 with 825 views | IH_KGF |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:33 - Oct 22 by ShortyBlue92 |
Every time he kicks the ball into a defender
What’s the point of him ? |
I honestly don't know, it would be crazy to write a player off so soon, but I'm on the verge of doing that.
He offers nothing. He drifted inside, in the first half, so much and you could see Young and Nunez both pointing to the wide right area as if to say "give us some width down there" | | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:40 - Oct 22 with 815 views | ShortyBlue92 |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:38 - Oct 22 by IH_KGF |
I honestly don't know, it would be crazy to write a player off so soon, but I'm on the verge of doing that.
He offers nothing. He drifted inside, in the first half, so much and you could see Young and Nunez both pointing to the wide right area as if to say "give us some width down there" |
He should watch clips of how Burns plays that position | | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 08:45 - Oct 22 with 771 views | BseaBlue |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 23:43 - Oct 21 by SouperJim |
Ogbene out on loan and spending so much on Macateer is highly questionable.
Chaplin out on loan while getting so little quality out of Szmodics and Akpom is highly questionable.
Morsy out on a free and a new contract for the honest but workmanlike Taylor is highly questionable.
Sheer turnover of players in such a short space of time while so clearly lacking the "gel" that turns a group of individuals into a team, not to mention making so many changes between games, is highly questionable.
These are all things that will probably bear fruit in the long term, but unless we start finding out feet soon, it could all go badly wrong before we get there. |
Spot on.
Could also add Burgess out and Kipre in (although slightly harsh off of two performances) and letting Broady go to. |  | | |
| Not a slight on McAteer on 09:50 - Oct 22 with 639 views | itfcsuth |
I actually thought he looked a bit sharper last night to be fair to him, not at a really high level, but an improvement on his prior perfromances.
Needs to address his 1v1 work though, actually needs to work space to cross the ball rather than trying to cross it through a defender, and inevitably hitting the man.
Doesn't really seem a difference between him and Ogbene, but he is here and Ogbene isn't. He is only 23, so you'd imagine he is the one KMc is going to work with.
What he does have to be fair to him, an engine on him, and a little bit of character and personality (thinking about the offside goal, and when we conceded he was scathing).
I think there is something there we can work with. [Post edited 22 Oct 9:50]
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