| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. 23:22 - Oct 21 with 2965 views | RegencyBlue |
I’ve always thought he would be given the season to get us up but many more performances like that and I think the Americans might get twitchy.
Not saying that’s right but on current form we’re not bothering top six, let alone top two, and if we are still off the pace at Xmas he might find out just how ruthless American business can be! |  | | |  |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:25 - Oct 21 with 2885 views | MrPotatoHead |
I know there's no loyalty in football but I think we owe him time. He's earned the right to have the season.
He sounded very downbeat tonight, not nice to see him like that. I so hope he turns it around. |  | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:26 - Oct 21 with 2878 views | Blue_Heath |
Agree, hopefully by Xmas he's turned it around but we'll see. |  | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:27 - Oct 21 with 2856 views | Edmundo |
He's rolled the dice when he didn't need to and overhauled a tight squad. This is his team, his squad now, so he stands or falls by it.
And as fans it's hard to give the benefit to a bunch of players we've really only known losing for 14 months. |  |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:27 - Oct 21 with 2855 views | Blue_Heath |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:25 - Oct 21 by MrPotatoHead |
I know there's no loyalty in football but I think we owe him time. He's earned the right to have the season.
He sounded very downbeat tonight, not nice to see him like that. I so hope he turns it around. |
Can't think of many managers who would still be employed with is win ratio over last 48 games, he's had time and will get more but question is can he turn it around? I really hope so but something is not right and hasn't been for some time now. | | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:30 - Oct 21 with 2811 views | MrPotatoHead |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:27 - Oct 21 by Blue_Heath |
Can't think of many managers who would still be employed with is win ratio over last 48 games, he's had time and will get more but question is can he turn it around? I really hope so but something is not right and hasn't been for some time now. |
I don't disagree, and we shouldn't let the success of 2 years ago cloud the judgement but I think he has enough credit in the bank to not bin him off after 10 games.
I would be waiting until at least February and seeing how we're looking then. | | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:31 - Oct 21 with 2798 views | TheBoyBlue |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:27 - Oct 21 by Blue_Heath |
Can't think of many managers who would still be employed with is win ratio over last 48 games, he's had time and will get more but question is can he turn it around? I really hope so but something is not right and hasn't been for some time now. |
I repeat my reply on the other thread. We wouldn't have been in the Premier League at all if it wasn't for him and frankly there isn't anyone I'd rather want in charge. But there are lessons to be learnt. | |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:34 - Oct 21 with 2728 views | football |
The players also have to take some responsibility also. Akpom and Clarke I thought played well but Greaves, O'Shea and many others were bystanders with little appetite or enthusiasm. We had nigh on 75% of the play, god knows how many corners and a real lack of serious shots on goal - that says something isn't right. | | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:39 - Oct 21 with 2658 views | Blooos |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:27 - Oct 21 by Blue_Heath |
Can't think of many managers who would still be employed with is win ratio over last 48 games, he's had time and will get more but question is can he turn it around? I really hope so but something is not right and hasn't been for some time now. |
Very true. Realistically if we were never in league 1 the year before we went to the prem, he would’ve been sacked by now (probably last season). I wouldn’t think of replacing him unless we’re still having these conversations in January. | | | |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:45 - Oct 21 with 2593 views | Basuco |
Not at all, the only change that mattered and KM had no choice was Matisuwa, Greaves and O'Shea were left horribly exposed many times. I am not at all convinced with them as a defensive CB partnership in general, but they were not entirely to blame. Tonight also showed we have no replacement for AM, any injury during the season will be a major problem, no team can lose a major cog in the middle of the pitch and not suffer.
I remember there was a lengthy thread after the Nunez signing about Cajuste and Nunez in midfield, tonight proved to me they cannot play together. |  | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 00:07 - Oct 22 with 2439 views | Denny32 |
If we are only 10 or 12 points off automatics by Christmas..il take that..15 to 20 ..I don't know..?? | | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 00:35 - Oct 22 with 2240 views | Garv |
Surely it's Ashton's decision, not the Americans? Ashton runs the club, and I think it would take a relegation threatened season for him to consider binning McKenna.
Can't see it happening, and absolutely don't want it to either. Imagine if we binned off our best manager for 30 (some might say 50) years. Nonsense.
McKenna isn't blameless, but this culture of assuming the manager is the problem isn't always the answer. We'll still have a brand new squad of strangers to knit together. |  |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 00:41 - Oct 22 with 2185 views | Ryorry |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:34 - Oct 21 by football |
The players also have to take some responsibility also. Akpom and Clarke I thought played well but Greaves, O'Shea and many others were bystanders with little appetite or enthusiasm. We had nigh on 75% of the play, god knows how many corners and a real lack of serious shots on goal - that says something isn't right. |
Not KM’s fault if our attacking players hit the crossbar or send shots whistling an inch or two wide.
I’m also far from convinced that our ‘business model’ of buying players just because they show *potential* for being able to do well in the EPL ,is the right one. What’s the point of that if we don’t get promoted? The need is to gain enough points *now* to get there. Of course you can bring through two or three newbies or youngsters at the same time, but not a wholesale churn. This was the same situation as for Burley after we got promoted, then relegated.
What was in KM’s control last night though, was to keep Jaden as a starter. Considering Billy Jean’s scoring form at home, leaving him out (unless he was carrying a knock we don’t know about) just seemed bizarre. |  |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 01:27 - Oct 22 with 2016 views | J2BLUE |
I feel better after reading his comments. He is saying the right things about addressing the problems and I agree with his assessment of what is happening.
Now we wait to see if he follows up and fixes it.
I still believe in him and this squad. |  |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 01:40 - Oct 22 with 1964 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 01:27 - Oct 22 by J2BLUE |
I feel better after reading his comments. He is saying the right things about addressing the problems and I agree with his assessment of what is happening.
Now we wait to see if he follows up and fixes it.
I still believe in him and this squad. |
I’m more concerned with where we are at, the body language, urgency and vibes seem off to me within the team. I don’t see a quick fix because there is a lack of consistency and leadership. We will win our fair share of games just because of individual quality at this level but I don’t think it will be anywhere near enough. |  |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 01:46 - Oct 22 with 1945 views | Plums |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 01:40 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I’m more concerned with where we are at, the body language, urgency and vibes seem off to me within the team. I don’t see a quick fix because there is a lack of consistency and leadership. We will win our fair share of games just because of individual quality at this level but I don’t think it will be anywhere near enough. |
I agree with this. After two goals in quick succession, whilst the Charlton players were celebrating, we should have had all the players together in a huddle with the message that "we've been all over this lot tonight and they've just done us twice. It stops now. Let's get stuck into them"
If it happened, I missed it. |  |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 02:13 - Oct 22 with 1870 views | gainsboroughblue |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 01:46 - Oct 22 by Plums |
I agree with this. After two goals in quick succession, whilst the Charlton players were celebrating, we should have had all the players together in a huddle with the message that "we've been all over this lot tonight and they've just done us twice. It stops now. Let's get stuck into them"
If it happened, I missed it. |
We have also come out at the start of the second half and stank the game out two games running. That's a worrying sign. |  |
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 04:39 - Oct 22 with 1637 views | Chrisd |
With the contract he is on and the money spent on the squad, rightly questions should be asked of him, KM is not untouchable. Yes, he’s got us two promotions, but last season’s tepid effort and the way we’ve started this campaign it’s only right that he should be challenged. He’s got a squad of proven Championship quality and yet we sit mid table, but there are clubs like Millwall and Stoke sitting in the top 6. Defensively, we look woeful and what worries me, throughout his time here he’s never seen that as an issue or a priority. Let’s be honest, this season we’ve not looked convincing and he’s had enough games now to get us looking a far better side. We should be up there challenging Coventry and mirroring them regarding results, but yet we find ourselves way off the pace. So, yes we should be asking what’s going on and why aren’t we doing far better? [Post edited 22 Oct 4:48]
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time on 05:53 - Oct 22 with 1431 views | Swansea_Blue |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:34 - Oct 21 by football |
The players also have to take some responsibility also. Akpom and Clarke I thought played well but Greaves, O'Shea and many others were bystanders with little appetite or enthusiasm. We had nigh on 75% of the play, god knows how many corners and a real lack of serious shots on goal - that says something isn't right. |
Although Akpom could have tracked his runner for their second. I’m still to be convinced he’s the right player for us, as I’ve yet to see him as a threat.
Clarke too spent too often running down dead ends. I don’t know whether it’s possible to get him play a team game. He can certainly beat a man and his tracking back was excellent at times last night, but he largely ignores one of the most creative left backs playing next to him.
We’ve a collection of individuals now, the team play is lacking and players are making the wrong decisions. It’s a massive job for KM and his team to get this lot into a coherent and confident group. [Post edited 22 Oct 6:05]
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| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 06:14 - Oct 22 with 1280 views | cressi |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:25 - Oct 21 by MrPotatoHead |
I know there's no loyalty in football but I think we owe him time. He's earned the right to have the season.
He sounded very downbeat tonight, not nice to see him like that. I so hope he turns it around. |
He won't get the season if not improvement in the short-term I imagine by the end of the Xmas period the Americans would expect us to be around the top six.
We have to remember although in a higher league for a chunk of the time 2025 we have been awful even after spending plenty of money it needs to turn or it won't end well. | | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 06:32 - Oct 22 with 1158 views | Blue_Heath |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 23:31 - Oct 21 by TheBoyBlue |
I repeat my reply on the other thread. We wouldn't have been in the Premier League at all if it wasn't for him and frankly there isn't anyone I'd rather want in charge. But there are lessons to be learnt. |
Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting sack him but if we are not within touching distance of top six by end of the year I feel change would be needed then.
KM so far is a momentum manager took us to the top and took us down. Really hope he can sort this as I don't want to be a constant sack the manager club but for the money spent it's going abysmally this season. Writing off last is being kind but that one was woeful too and should bear some consideration. | | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 06:58 - Oct 22 with 966 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
Getting rid the manager and having to start again with a new management team is the worst outcome for this season and right now.
If we fail this season to get play offs (note how low the bar is now) then would you think with a heavy heart he will be given the option to leave in the most respectful way possible. | | | |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 08:36 - Oct 22 with 537 views | RegencyBlue |
| McKenna under serious pressure for the first time. on 00:35 - Oct 22 by Garv |
Surely it's Ashton's decision, not the Americans? Ashton runs the club, and I think it would take a relegation threatened season for him to consider binning McKenna.
Can't see it happening, and absolutely don't want it to either. Imagine if we binned off our best manager for 30 (some might say 50) years. Nonsense.
McKenna isn't blameless, but this culture of assuming the manager is the problem isn't always the answer. We'll still have a brand new squad of strangers to knit together. |
Ashton works for the Americans.
If they become unhappy and desire change then change there will be! | | | |
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