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Who would you get to replace McKenna? 10:48 - Oct 22 with 2402 viewstetchris

Carrick?
O’Neil?
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 15:59 - Oct 22 with 439 viewsblueoutlook

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 14:31 - Oct 22 by JammyDodgerrr

There is not a single manager, that I think we'd be able to get, that is better than McKenna in my view. We've got to see it through.


There are some very rose tinted glasses on this site. There are managers other than McKenna out there who could and would do a job. Having only a plan A is crippling us this season as it did last season too.
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:24 - Oct 22 with 402 viewsVanSaParody

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 10:50 - Oct 22 by SamWhiteUK

I wouldn't get anyone to replace him, and anyone calling for his head needs theirs checking.


I'm definitely with you there...



However, if the worst was to happen, wouldn't it be hilarious if we got Liam Manning?
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:26 - Oct 22 with 398 viewsblueysbackside

Gareth Southgate
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:30 - Oct 22 with 390 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:26 - Oct 22 by blueysbackside

Gareth Southgate


That would mean even later subs!

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:31 - Oct 22 with 391 viewslazyblue

Move on mate
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:33 - Oct 22 with 380 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 15:59 - Oct 22 by blueoutlook

There are some very rose tinted glasses on this site. There are managers other than McKenna out there who could and would do a job. Having only a plan A is crippling us this season as it did last season too.


Please name them. There have been about 100 posts saying this since last night and not a single one names a manager.
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:34 - Oct 22 with 381 viewspeterleeblue

This won't happen because the Toxic minority will drive change if things do not improve but my colours to the mast FWIW. For me Mckenna has until the end of 26/27 to get us back up. Lets be different and give our managers time. Time to show some class.

Two more observations.
1. I very much doubt McKenna is on £5m per annum in the championship. There will be a relegation clause in place.
and...
2. Ashton is not the new devil incarnate but a hard working Chairman / CEO with the best interests of ITFC.
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:36 - Oct 22 with 362 viewsFrimleyBlue

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:33 - Oct 22 by JammyDodgerrr

Please name them. There have been about 100 posts saying this since last night and not a single one names a manager.
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Why is it upto the fans on a forum to name a potential manager

who ever is suggested would be met by he's not KM so its all rather pointless really isnt it

The facts are he's won 7 in 48 games, now we dont know how the owners feel about it, it doesnt matter what the fans think.

He'll either get time and fine if he does
if he doesn't then it's upto the owners to find a new manager, someone THEY feel would win more than KM has achieved since promotion

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:37 - Oct 22 with 356 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:34 - Oct 22 by peterleeblue

This won't happen because the Toxic minority will drive change if things do not improve but my colours to the mast FWIW. For me Mckenna has until the end of 26/27 to get us back up. Lets be different and give our managers time. Time to show some class.

Two more observations.
1. I very much doubt McKenna is on £5m per annum in the championship. There will be a relegation clause in place.
and...
2. Ashton is not the new devil incarnate but a hard working Chairman / CEO with the best interests of ITFC.


Toxic minority? I think this fanbase has been pretty patient over the last 50 games tbf. Can you imagine around the other clubs. Conversations are now happening in the more mainstream of the fanbase of at least the idea of where a tipping point is, which is understandable.

Literally every club would move on if we didn't make the playoffs. It's not "toxic" to question results if that happens tbh.

Ashton has clearly messed up some of the recruitment since promotion.

All that said let's very much hope he can turn it around.

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:43 - Oct 22 with 340 viewsjas0999

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 10:50 - Oct 22 by SamWhiteUK

I wouldn't get anyone to replace him, and anyone calling for his head needs theirs checking.


Disagree. It’s entirely right questioning KMs position. Ten games in and we are nowhere near where we’d want to be. Away form is terrible, just been beaten 3-0 at home to a club in league one last season. Nine straight home losses earlier in the year.

KM can’t continue to get a free pass forever. I’d be most surprised if Ashton isn’t under a bit of pressure now. We can’t overlook KMs huge salary - he needs to justify it and so far he isn’t.
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:20 - Oct 22 with 307 viewsottovonbismark

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:37 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Toxic minority? I think this fanbase has been pretty patient over the last 50 games tbf. Can you imagine around the other clubs. Conversations are now happening in the more mainstream of the fanbase of at least the idea of where a tipping point is, which is understandable.

Literally every club would move on if we didn't make the playoffs. It's not "toxic" to question results if that happens tbh.

Ashton has clearly messed up some of the recruitment since promotion.

All that said let's very much hope he can turn it around.


I suspect there is no planning at all for replacing KM at board level, if there was that would indicate awareness of the situation and an attempt to put it right.
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:26 - Oct 22 with 295 viewsWestSussexBlue

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 14:55 - Oct 22 by TRUE_BLUE123

Ange ?

As in Ange Postecoglu. That Ange ?

Are you feeling ok.


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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:31 - Oct 22 with 287 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:20 - Oct 22 by ottovonbismark

I suspect there is no planning at all for replacing KM at board level, if there was that would indicate awareness of the situation and an attempt to put it right.


I doubt there is anyone wanting to entertain the idea yet.

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:52 - Oct 22 with 258 viewsWhos_blue

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:36 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue

Why is it upto the fans on a forum to name a potential manager

who ever is suggested would be met by he's not KM so its all rather pointless really isnt it

The facts are he's won 7 in 48 games, now we dont know how the owners feel about it, it doesnt matter what the fans think.

He'll either get time and fine if he does
if he doesn't then it's upto the owners to find a new manager, someone THEY feel would win more than KM has achieved since promotion


But isn't that exactly the point Frimmers.

There are hundreds if not thousands of posts where people suggest different formations, different players etc. Why not the manager?
At least the OP has listed two options.
I don't agree with either and remain a happy clapping KM supporter, but to say it's not up to the fans to name a potential replacement is rather baffling.
I'd much rather an intelligent debate about the merits of other managers, rather than some of the nonsense posted here (or particularly the news comments. Jeez. That lot are something else!)
If not KM, who and why?

FWIW. I think if we don't go up this season he goes, which probably feels about for all parties. Not saying I'm advocating it, but everything comes to an end eventually. The end of the season is the time to take stock.

Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness.

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:16 - Oct 22 with 214 viewsFrimleyBlue

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:52 - Oct 22 by Whos_blue

But isn't that exactly the point Frimmers.

There are hundreds if not thousands of posts where people suggest different formations, different players etc. Why not the manager?
At least the OP has listed two options.
I don't agree with either and remain a happy clapping KM supporter, but to say it's not up to the fans to name a potential replacement is rather baffling.
I'd much rather an intelligent debate about the merits of other managers, rather than some of the nonsense posted here (or particularly the news comments. Jeez. That lot are something else!)
If not KM, who and why?

FWIW. I think if we don't go up this season he goes, which probably feels about for all parties. Not saying I'm advocating it, but everything comes to an end eventually. The end of the season is the time to take stock.


Mainly for me because it becomes a bit silly

Like earlier. I mentioned ange if at all it was needed. Laughed off like we are suddenly to go for a manager who only 5 months won the uefa cup.

There of course will be pros and cons to all sorts but I dont think you'll ever reach one where someone else goes yeah that would work. Players are slightly different as you think a manager will just bring out the best in them but picking a manager is harder as the buck stops there if that makes sense.

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:28 - Oct 22 with 203 viewsNutkins_Return

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 10:53 - Oct 22 by ShortyBlue92

There has to be a tipping point tho
We are not there yet, but ……


We're not even close.

The guy has proven what he can do. It's annoying and we all want quick success but that's not how things generally working when building a new team. Very rare it happens.

Liverpool at the top level are going through it right now and their recruitment on paper has been class.

I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though.

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:45 - Oct 22 with 169 viewsITFCSG

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:28 - Oct 22 by Nutkins_Return

We're not even close.

The guy has proven what he can do. It's annoying and we all want quick success but that's not how things generally working when building a new team. Very rare it happens.

Liverpool at the top level are going through it right now and their recruitment on paper has been class.

I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though.


//I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though.//

Lots of people were saying the exact same thing this Jan and see how it panned out?
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 19:45 - Oct 22 with 105 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:36 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue

Why is it upto the fans on a forum to name a potential manager

who ever is suggested would be met by he's not KM so its all rather pointless really isnt it

The facts are he's won 7 in 48 games, now we dont know how the owners feel about it, it doesnt matter what the fans think.

He'll either get time and fine if he does
if he doesn't then it's upto the owners to find a new manager, someone THEY feel would win more than KM has achieved since promotion


Because that post explicitly states there are other managers who could do a better job that we could get? I am following up the point. I have done this on about five posts since last night, where they all say other, better managers are available and I haven't received a single reply with a name.

You can't tout that there are clearly better managers out there, without at least naming who you think they are.
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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 19:53 - Oct 22 with 94 viewsWhos_blue

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:16 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue

Mainly for me because it becomes a bit silly

Like earlier. I mentioned ange if at all it was needed. Laughed off like we are suddenly to go for a manager who only 5 months won the uefa cup.

There of course will be pros and cons to all sorts but I dont think you'll ever reach one where someone else goes yeah that would work. Players are slightly different as you think a manager will just bring out the best in them but picking a manager is harder as the buck stops there if that makes sense.


That's fair enough, but as JD has also replied, without naming suggestions and just saying he has to go (which you haven't suggested btw) seems pointless.
I think it's either put up or shut up.

Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness.

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 20:00 - Oct 22 with 83 viewsFrimleyBlue

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 19:45 - Oct 22 by JammyDodgerrr

Because that post explicitly states there are other managers who could do a better job that we could get? I am following up the point. I have done this on about five posts since last night, where they all say other, better managers are available and I haven't received a single reply with a name.

You can't tout that there are clearly better managers out there, without at least naming who you think they are.
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Thing is we don't know how good km is. We know what he achieved but that's been done before and he gets credit for it. But there are other managers who have result wise been better than him in the past 18 months. So yes there are at present better managers out there.

Most of it depends too what the owners target is. If it's promotion only this season then he'd be gone by Xmas if we aren't close. However if he's allowed time then he'll get that time.

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Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 20:15 - Oct 22 with 62 viewsHighgateBlue

Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:28 - Oct 22 by Nutkins_Return

We're not even close.

The guy has proven what he can do. It's annoying and we all want quick success but that's not how things generally working when building a new team. Very rare it happens.

Liverpool at the top level are going through it right now and their recruitment on paper has been class.

I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though.


In fairness, it's the fact we've gone backwards over an extended period - 18 months. If he had been appointed in the summer and had lots of money or no money, it wouldn't be justified to call for his head.

So it's not about expecting instant gratification.

He's made a lot of very active decisions, many of them ones which were not even forced upon him as questions to answer. He's spent more money than we could even have dreamed of.

2 points from our 5 games against top half clubs. 5 shots on target from 30 last night. And that's before you even get started on where the defence is. In my opinion, our wins against Sheff Utd, Norwich and Portsmouth, all pretty poor sides, are papering over some very serious cracks.

We had a team that succeeded in this division. And part of the reason why was Kieran, no question. But he has chosen to dismantle that side, and he would get much of the glory if the gamble paid off. There may come a point where the board have to decide if it has paid off or not. Make no mistake - the parachute payment clock is ticking. Norwich's travails show us what can await if we fail to go up during our parachute party. I do not want to have to sell them our most creative midfielder in 2 years' time. If we have one.
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