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TLDR: Reform is on course to win the next election (inc. both Ipswich seats), but its voter base is wildly varied (like Trump's).
Lab saying there's no money to fix anything while waving flags and trying to be reasonably racist will gift Farage the election.
It is partly reassuring to hear that immigration isn't actually the most important issue for all Reform voters, however it might seem on social media, the news, wherever.
Farage will have problems keeping any coalition together once in power (again, like Trump), but a weak,unpopular opposition (for Dems read the current Labour party) will only help him.
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Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 14:21 - Nov 13 with 1134 views
Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 10:18 - Nov 13 by ElderGrizzly
They are simply using the RW media's talking point to try and ssssh the dissenters.
No-one truly believes they are going to throw away another 3 1/2 years of power.
Yers. That's why I said in order to quell dissent. No one seriously expects them to chuck away the rest of the term. But it's being briefed by no 10 to the press.
Johnson spun the same narrative in his final months.
so the next election will be decide on prosperity, immigration and the state of the nhs. who'd have thought it.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 16:37 - Nov 13 with 947 views
Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 13:33 - Nov 13 by hype313
If Labour and the Tories weren't so abjectly disastrous, then loony parties like Reform would be non existent.
It's a damning indictment of our main 2 political parties that they have no idea, direction, philosophy, and are at constant in house civil warfare.
Meanwhile, the rest of us get absolutely destroyed day in day out with the cost of living, public services down the pan and the most expensive energy prices in the world.
If I was under 25, I would be doing everything in my power to seek a better life elsewhere.
Is it that the Tories and Labour are abjectly disastrous? Or are they wrestling with largely insoluble problems (migration triggered by geopolitics and climate, cost of living increased by the cessation of cheap Russian oil and gas) - which no government anywhere currently has good answers to?
Sure, there's a lot of infighting. But much of that comes down to either more or less berserk ideas on what to do about things (Truss, Johnson), or terror at the prospect of being turfed out by those parties who've gone wholesale down the wild imagineering route.
Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 09:23 - Nov 13 by noggin
I just don't get it. Do so many people really think their lives will improve if Reform win a GE? A protest vote is madness, if it makes things worse (see Brexit)
Just to relay an overheard conversation in the barbers the other day...
Barber wasn't remotely racist or worried about immigration - he was basically fed up with both Lab and Tories. He even said he thought Farage was an arse and full of sht - and didn't believe he'd do a fraction of what he promised. But he intended to vote for them (think he was probably Lab last time out) as they couldn't be any worse and would at least try and get things done.
The feeling of "Broken Britain" persists and Lab has yet to change that. Reform come with no baggage and so to him why wouldn't he give the new kids on the block a go?
Only solution is for Labour to deliver some fundamental improvements to the economy, to public services in the next 3 years.
Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 16:37 - Nov 13 by Guthrum
Is it that the Tories and Labour are abjectly disastrous? Or are they wrestling with largely insoluble problems (migration triggered by geopolitics and climate, cost of living increased by the cessation of cheap Russian oil and gas) - which no government anywhere currently has good answers to?
Sure, there's a lot of infighting. But much of that comes down to either more or less berserk ideas on what to do about things (Truss, Johnson), or terror at the prospect of being turfed out by those parties who've gone wholesale down the wild imagineering route.
'Is it that the Tories and Labour are abjectly disastrous? Or are they wrestling with largely insoluble problems'
I think both parties are suffering with identity issues, neither knows how to manage the UK in 2025, The Tories seem to think that Thatcherism is they key that will unlock all their dreams, which as we all know, wont. And Labour seem to be like rabbits in headlights, essentially running the country by think tanks.
Neither party, to me, look like they have the know how or will to tackle our issues and build a country fit for purpose.
Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 14:01 - Nov 13 by EddyJ
People need to be clear what they mean by "swung left".
Fiscally, we have been following Thatcherite neo-liberalism, which has shrunk the state (privatising utilities, selling off council houses etc...) and concentrated wealth in a smaller and smaller group of people. i.e we have moved "right".
Socially, we have generally trended towards more progressive positions. Racism, sexism, ablism, homophobia etc... are generally much reduced and less mainstream than they were decades ago. The past 2-3 years have seen a setback in this regard, triggered in part by the Israel-Palestine conflict and Trumpism. But we are still significantly better off than we were 30 years ago. i.e. we have moved "left".
In fairness I was thinking more in lines of your last paragraph. Had considered the state ownership element in my response.
And I am not saying that moving left is bad, certainly your last paragraph has so many positives.
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Reform set to win both Ipswich seats, but immigration not everything on 10:12 - Nov 17 with 415 views
Think Labour are doing some good things in places, more NHS appointments is a good thing, the work to bring together the train companies and sort out ticketing to make it simpler is sensible and long overdue and their work on the courts and prisons is good too.
They were dealt a bum hand with loads of public services all being failing at the same time, but they also seem to have played it badly and with a terrible comms strategy. No clue why you would go so hard on tax rises and then bail at the last minute. You get all of the negative headlines, more talk of u-turns and none of the money you would have raised.
Do think that they could do better than currently expected at the next election if some of the reforms really work, but would urge them to go further and faster on things like the water companies and sewage in the rivers that have massive public support.
Think Reform will come to regret their close links to Trump as his project falls apart, especially if the Epstein files are released soon.
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