| Ogbene 20:25 - Nov 13 with 5949 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Showing why I was gutted we loaned him out for the entire season.  |  | | |  |
| Ogbene on 21:30 - Nov 13 with 1059 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Ogbene on 21:29 - Nov 13 by eirannach_gorm |
Having a dream game here in attack and defence against the 5th best team in the world. |
Good for him, I just don’t think he ever showed anything for us that made me think letting him go was a mistake.
Bang average players often raise their game for Ireland, hence they’ve been able to punch above their weight on occasions, as they seem to be doing tonight (I’m not watching so I’ll take your word for it). [Post edited 13 Nov 21:31]
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| Ogbene on 21:32 - Nov 13 with 1049 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Ogbene on 21:29 - Nov 13 by Reuser_is_God |
I wasn’t accusing you, I was just asking a question.
Chill out. |
So why would you even question my sincerity? Seems odd at the very least. | | | |
| Ogbene on 21:36 - Nov 13 with 1033 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Ogbene on 21:32 - Nov 13 by SuffolkPunchFC |
So why would you even question my sincerity? Seems odd at the very least. |
I just found it odd how someone can be gutted that a player who had 7 games for us & was probably below average in all of them had been loaned out. | |
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| Ogbene on 21:50 - Nov 13 with 981 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Ogbene on 21:36 - Nov 13 by Reuser_is_God |
I just found it odd how someone can be gutted that a player who had 7 games for us & was probably below average in all of them had been loaned out. |
forgetting injury, mcateer etc when you look into ogbene, it does seem a bizarre purchase to begin with really
38 assists in 10 years of football, 33 goals.
app only 3 assists when in the prem with luton |  |
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| Ogbene on 21:53 - Nov 13 with 963 views | eirannach_gorm |
| Ogbene on 21:36 - Nov 13 by Reuser_is_God |
I just found it odd how someone can be gutted that a player who had 7 games for us & was probably below average in all of them had been loaned out. |
The problem is that the bang average player was loaned out and an equally bang average player bought ( expensively) to replace him. You clearly didn't see anything in his games he played for us so it was unfortunate not to see him having an outstanding game for an international team. | | | |
| Ogbene on 21:58 - Nov 13 with 952 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Ogbene on 21:53 - Nov 13 by eirannach_gorm |
The problem is that the bang average player was loaned out and an equally bang average player bought ( expensively) to replace him. You clearly didn't see anything in his games he played for us so it was unfortunate not to see him having an outstanding game for an international team. |
If ROI were playing in my back garden I’d close the curtains. | |
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| Ogbene on 22:03 - Nov 13 with 937 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Ogbene on 21:50 - Nov 13 by FrimleyBlue |
forgetting injury, mcateer etc when you look into ogbene, it does seem a bizarre purchase to begin with really
38 assists in 10 years of football, 33 goals.
app only 3 assists when in the prem with luton |
Not sure looking at struggling teams on the PL makes much sense, but just as a reference, Ogbene (30 games) scored 4, with 1 assist for Luton, which compares favourably with Burns (18 games), with no goals and 1 assist. | | | |
| Ogbene on 22:07 - Nov 13 with 903 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Ogbene on 22:03 - Nov 13 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Not sure looking at struggling teams on the PL makes much sense, but just as a reference, Ogbene (30 games) scored 4, with 1 assist for Luton, which compares favourably with Burns (18 games), with no goals and 1 assist. |
i get why we got someone in, but hadn't really looked into ogbene until now really, was suprised how little assists and goals hed had over 10 years in the game. either way, it still puzzled me how we swapped him for mcateer though after only getting him last year | |
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| Ogbene on 22:18 - Nov 13 with 872 views | eirannach_gorm |
| Ogbene on 21:58 - Nov 13 by Reuser_is_God |
If ROI were playing in my back garden I’d close the curtains. |
That's very interesting but does not address the strange decision to loan Ogbene. | | | |
| Ogbene on 22:25 - Nov 13 with 852 views | WicklowBlue |
Can we all get a bit real here please? Ogbene was definitely showing a lack of fitness in the early games, and a lot of folks on here were saying how hard it is coming back from that injury. Along with others saying he'd never get back to the speed he had.
Can we not just be delighted for him and his game tonight. Without claiming McAteer (who equally has shown promise for Ireland and at club level) is carp etc.
Balance is needed, I can see why Ogbene was sent out on loan for thr season to give him game time. Im sure both he and McKenna are delighted tonight with his performance. So maybe the loan was the right move.... |  | | |
| Ogbene on 22:37 - Nov 13 with 823 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ogbene on 22:25 - Nov 13 by WicklowBlue |
Can we all get a bit real here please? Ogbene was definitely showing a lack of fitness in the early games, and a lot of folks on here were saying how hard it is coming back from that injury. Along with others saying he'd never get back to the speed he had.
Can we not just be delighted for him and his game tonight. Without claiming McAteer (who equally has shown promise for Ireland and at club level) is carp etc.
Balance is needed, I can see why Ogbene was sent out on loan for thr season to give him game time. Im sure both he and McKenna are delighted tonight with his performance. So maybe the loan was the right move.... |
I don't think many people are up in arms or going wild about this. I think it's just questioning an obviously strange situation.
The fee will remain the thing that makes it difficult to digest.
As I said before we all just need to remove the context behind Mcateer and get behind him now. | |
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| Ogbene on 22:43 - Nov 13 with 811 views | WicklowBlue |
| Ogbene on 22:37 - Nov 13 by Nutkins_Return |
I don't think many people are up in arms or going wild about this. I think it's just questioning an obviously strange situation.
The fee will remain the thing that makes it difficult to digest.
As I said before we all just need to remove the context behind Mcateer and get behind him now. |
Where did I say people are up in arms or going wild?
My post was questioning why it is "an obviously strange situation". I didnt even mention any fees.
Agrees with your last 4 words as we should do with any Town player. | | | |
| Ogbene on 22:55 - Nov 13 with 786 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ogbene on 21:36 - Nov 13 by Reuser_is_God |
I just found it odd how someone can be gutted that a player who had 7 games for us & was probably below average in all of them had been loaned out. |
From what I can recall he looked good when he did play for us. He played in 5 matches, 3 draws and 2 defeats (only playing 16 mins during which neither side scored and 35 mins during which we scored 2 and conceded 0 in the other defeat).
To say he looked below average is a massive exaggeration. Injury did prevent us seeing how good he would be for us, though. He had regularly performed well for Luton in the Premier League before we signed him too. |  |
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| Ogbene on 11:46 - Nov 14 with 588 views | Wickets |
| Ogbene on 21:30 - Nov 13 by Reuser_is_God |
Good for him, I just don’t think he ever showed anything for us that made me think letting him go was a mistake.
Bang average players often raise their game for Ireland, hence they’ve been able to punch above their weight on occasions, as they seem to be doing tonight (I’m not watching so I’ll take your word for it). [Post edited 13 Nov 21:31]
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Anyone who saw Ogbene play for Luton in the Premier would know how good he can be . This seems to be one of the rare occasions we have got it wrong but time will tell . Hopefully Mcateer can come good and i thought the signs were there at Swansea . |  | | |
| Ogbene on 11:51 - Nov 14 with 579 views | SomethingBlue |
He's playing for a punchy, possession-light underdog international side – it's a very different gig and he really isn't the man for us. | |
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| Ogbene on 12:09 - Nov 14 with 552 views | Vaughan8 |
He's hardly ripping it up at Sheff Utd though is he?
Is this based on one game? | | | |
| Ogbene on 12:20 - Nov 14 with 540 views | MrPotatoHead |
I didn't really have any strong objections until we then went and paid what we did for McAteer. No idea why Ogbene couldn't have done the role he has backing up Egeli. |  | | |
| Ogbene on 12:22 - Nov 14 with 538 views | portmanking |
| Ogbene on 11:51 - Nov 14 by SomethingBlue |
He's playing for a punchy, possession-light underdog international side – it's a very different gig and he really isn't the man for us. |
Nailed it. If you're sitting back and looking to catch teams cold on the break, Ogbene is fine.
If you want to control games and are likely to face mid and low blocks most weeks, he's rendered almost useless. | | | |
| Ogbene on 12:28 - Nov 14 with 523 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Ogbene on 12:22 - Nov 14 by portmanking |
Nailed it. If you're sitting back and looking to catch teams cold on the break, Ogbene is fine.
If you want to control games and are likely to face mid and low blocks most weeks, he's rendered almost useless. |
Is that not pretty much the same with mcateer though? | |
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| Ogbene on 12:33 - Nov 14 with 517 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Far better for us that he is playing regularly and retains some re-sale value.
It's obvious that Egeli and McAteer are the future of the right hand side and there was absolutely no point keeping him as an 'option' when Wes Burns is about to come back into the side.
You can make the argument he's better than McAteer but realistically if we were to go up, we would probably be looking to recruit into that position again.
I don't harbour any hard feelings. Was a good deal for us, good deal for Shef U and a great deal for Chieo.
If he got recalled in Jan, all we would have to do is loan out one of McAteer or Burns. Not required IMO. | | | |
| Ogbene on 12:36 - Nov 14 with 511 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Ogbene on 12:09 - Nov 14 by Vaughan8 |
He's hardly ripping it up at Sheff Utd though is he?
Is this based on one game? |
No | | | |
| Ogbene on 12:42 - Nov 14 with 492 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Ogbene on 12:22 - Nov 14 by portmanking |
Nailed it. If you're sitting back and looking to catch teams cold on the break, Ogbene is fine.
If you want to control games and are likely to face mid and low blocks most weeks, he's rendered almost useless. |
Or if you play a game when you invite the opposition on you, and play out from the back. | | | |
| Ogbene on 12:48 - Nov 14 with 478 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Ogbene on 12:33 - Nov 14 by Bellevue_Blue |
Far better for us that he is playing regularly and retains some re-sale value.
It's obvious that Egeli and McAteer are the future of the right hand side and there was absolutely no point keeping him as an 'option' when Wes Burns is about to come back into the side.
You can make the argument he's better than McAteer but realistically if we were to go up, we would probably be looking to recruit into that position again.
I don't harbour any hard feelings. Was a good deal for us, good deal for Shef U and a great deal for Chieo.
If he got recalled in Jan, all we would have to do is loan out one of McAteer or Burns. Not required IMO. |
Ogbene always struck me as a bit of an odd signing. It felt like we had identified we didn't have much pace & physicality in wide areas, and we didn't have much Premier League experience in the group. We also didn't have much time 48 hours out from deadline day. I wouldn't go as far as saying panic buy but McKenna never seemed massively hot on him and I think Luton pulled our pants down with the fee for a player who had more L1 appearances than Championship up to that point in his career.
No massive harm done, I suspect he'll be sold in the summer to the highest bidder and we'll take a hit on that £8m. | | | |
| Ogbene on 13:05 - Nov 14 with 454 views | SheffordBlue |
I think with both him and Burns coming back from long term, serious injuries we probably had concerns about one or both having a reoccurrence and wanted someone in of a similar profile who didn't carry that risk.
If they'd both been at the same level of their rehab and both available for loaning out it would have been interesting to see who went out and who stayed. As it was we either had to loan Ogbene out or carry both of them in the squad. | |
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| Ogbene on 13:23 - Nov 14 with 428 views | AVJones |
The weirdest decision of the summer / the biggest nonsense in terms of how it was explained.
A player we thought good enough to play in PL, paid big money for, lots of experience. Strong, powerful.
Whilst still on the way back to fitness, and not quite there, he was only a few weeks off, not months and months.
And we let him go for the whole season "to re-build fitness"?
Till January, yep, maybe, that would have made sense. Then see how Burns is doing &/or if we need to buy.
But for the whole season? Absolute nonsense, no logic at all. McKenna clearly changed his mind on him. [Post edited 14 Nov 13:25]
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