| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. 13:54 - Jan 3 with 7114 views | jasondozzell |
I do not blame him. |  | | |  |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:26 - Jan 3 with 737 views | jasondozzell |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:05 - Jan 3 by BouncebackIpswich |
To preface this I don't get to the vast majority of games and not been this season yet. So I'm out of touch. But, really don't know what I think about KM making regular digs at the fans.
On the one hand, he's done miracles at this club and is entitled to expect some enthusiasm, as well as patience towards the style of play which has been insanely successful. There is no doubt that a positive supportive atmosphere will spur the players on and encourage them and make KM and the teams job easier. The best teams always have the fans behind them. Mckenna calling out the poor atmosphere may shame some into being more active supporters.
On the other you have to take the good with the bad. There are certain other clubs with more loud/passionate fanbases who yes create good home atmospheres but who are also a lot less accepting of poor runs like last year. For instance, if he was at Leeds and performed like last season, I'd have been surprised it he made it through the year without a large section of fans booing and calling for him to go plus all the social media abuse etc. which then may force the clubs hand into making a decision. Look at the pressure Farke has been under this year and lots of them wanted him gone despite getting 99 points in 23/24.
A difficult one for sure. Hopefully it will be a case of the performances spurring on the fans who will also spur on the players. An un-vicious circle so to speak. |
My view is that KM is right to say it as he sees it as ever. He always does it in a very understated and polite way.
Frankly the Town support has been an utter disgrace this season. I don't know if it's Johnny come lately who arrived for the promotions and just want to be entertained with '5-0' wins every week so they can post on social media, think football is a FIFA videogame etc., but the lack of support for the team has been very depressing.
No one seems to have struggled to make noise when they were hurling abuse at MacAteer have they? Grown men screaming at Walton because they do not understand football and KM's style of play after 4 years but will leave early because they want to beat the traffic.
I saw posts after a Ox from fans saying it was 's"-t' but 'we take the 3 points'. It is absolutely unbelievable and so entitled and ignorant it's untrue. We played some great football. Some lovely attacking moves. Have people forgotten what games are like 2016-2021 especially?
Crowds streaming out before the final whistle because the game is in their minds a boring one and they want to get home.
We've had nothing much to shout about for 20 years and now we are enjoying season after season of brilliant football and the club being well run and we can't get behind the team. It does not get better than this and yet people seem totally unaware!
KM deserves better and the players deserve better. [Post edited 3 Jan 17:29]
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:32 - Jan 3 with 701 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:26 - Jan 3 by jasondozzell |
My view is that KM is right to say it as he sees it as ever. He always does it in a very understated and polite way.
Frankly the Town support has been an utter disgrace this season. I don't know if it's Johnny come lately who arrived for the promotions and just want to be entertained with '5-0' wins every week so they can post on social media, think football is a FIFA videogame etc., but the lack of support for the team has been very depressing.
No one seems to have struggled to make noise when they were hurling abuse at MacAteer have they? Grown men screaming at Walton because they do not understand football and KM's style of play after 4 years but will leave early because they want to beat the traffic.
I saw posts after a Ox from fans saying it was 's"-t' but 'we take the 3 points'. It is absolutely unbelievable and so entitled and ignorant it's untrue. We played some great football. Some lovely attacking moves. Have people forgotten what games are like 2016-2021 especially?
Crowds streaming out before the final whistle because the game is in their minds a boring one and they want to get home.
We've had nothing much to shout about for 20 years and now we are enjoying season after season of brilliant football and the club being well run and we can't get behind the team. It does not get better than this and yet people seem totally unaware!
KM deserves better and the players deserve better. [Post edited 3 Jan 17:29]
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I certainly agree with you that anyone saying the Oxford game was sh1t needs their head checking, some beautiful and incisive football in that first half against a very stubborn team. |  | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:36 - Jan 3 with 678 views | cressi |
Although the football has been slow and tedious at times certainly not like the brand of football we went up playing last time yes we was spoilt. |  | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. (n/t) on 17:42 - Jan 3 with 637 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah but Cov have the Enemy we have the Blue Army guy! I like EEJB (especially how unique it is) but it would be cool if we had a Cov, Leeds or Sunderland style anthem that could be belted out before the game by the entire stadium. |  |
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:42 - Jan 3 with 641 views | ghostofescobar |
The past few games, there have been instances when you can hear the players shouting on the pitch at each other. The last time I clearly remember that was in the dog days of the McCarthy era when there were less than half the attendances we get now. Yet here we are, second in the league, scoring plenty of goals, letting in very few, only half the way through the season. I genuinely don’t know what the fans want? I am becoming increasingly embarrassed by the home atmosphere. Too many miserable fvckers in the ground! |  |
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:58 - Jan 3 with 579 views | waveneyblue |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 15:23 - Jan 3 by algy |
Perhaps there was a hangover from last season, record 9 consecutive home defeats witnessing almost 3000 away fans having a great day out every game, didn't help. It will take time for the atmosphere to recover. |
Unlike you to pop a negative spin on things....
You should mention last season a bit more, we might take notice.
Happy New Year you miserable ole git 😘 |  | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:59 - Jan 3 with 583 views | brogansnose |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:42 - Jan 3 by ghostofescobar |
The past few games, there have been instances when you can hear the players shouting on the pitch at each other. The last time I clearly remember that was in the dog days of the McCarthy era when there were less than half the attendances we get now. Yet here we are, second in the league, scoring plenty of goals, letting in very few, only half the way through the season. I genuinely don’t know what the fans want? I am becoming increasingly embarrassed by the home atmosphere. Too many miserable fvckers in the ground! |
We all know that its been quiet this season but the Oxford game was the quietest match since the tail end of the Mick era. I really don't know what people want or what their concept is of supporting the club but if people are that non plussed then I struggle why they actually go.
And yes, when chuffin' Oxford with 400 fans take the p**s singing ' Is this a libray ' heard over our efforts then it is truly embarrasing. |  | | |
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:07 - Jan 3 with 542 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:59 - Jan 3 by brogansnose |
We all know that its been quiet this season but the Oxford game was the quietest match since the tail end of the Mick era. I really don't know what people want or what their concept is of supporting the club but if people are that non plussed then I struggle why they actually go.
And yes, when chuffin' Oxford with 400 fans take the p**s singing ' Is this a libray ' heard over our efforts then it is truly embarrasing. |
Sir Bobby was right - we're all zombies. | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. (n/t) on 18:15 - Jan 3 with 520 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. (n/t) on 17:42 - Jan 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah but Cov have the Enemy we have the Blue Army guy! I like EEJB (especially how unique it is) but it would be cool if we had a Cov, Leeds or Sunderland style anthem that could be belted out before the game by the entire stadium. |
Yep, We'll live and die in these towns is a good anthem and with country roads before it they build the atmosphere much better than us. But it still goes flat quickly after that. |  |
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| Thanks on 18:16 - Jan 3 with 514 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Thanks on 17:21 - Jan 3 by LA_Tractor_Boy |
I'm sure KMc's big contract will play a part in any decision making, but I honestly think McKenna will walk in the summer whether we're promoted or not.
I think he's become frustrated at the lack of passion from the fans this season and has been critical on more than one occasion. |
Not sure about that. He might well leave, and might well wish we were a louder fanbase, but he can’t have too many complaints on balance in terms of the support he’s had in his time here. I doubt it would be too much of a consideration when assessing his career options either. In hindsight he might wish he took Brighton, but the timing of that couldn’t have been much better for us in terms of keeping him after the back to back promotions. |  | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:26 - Jan 3 with 486 views | Benters |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 17:59 - Jan 3 by brogansnose |
We all know that its been quiet this season but the Oxford game was the quietest match since the tail end of the Mick era. I really don't know what people want or what their concept is of supporting the club but if people are that non plussed then I struggle why they actually go.
And yes, when chuffin' Oxford with 400 fans take the p**s singing ' Is this a libray ' heard over our efforts then it is truly embarrasing. |
Football has changed buh a lot more families go it’s a day out now,rather than a few beers a pie and sing song.
It’s a blooming expensive day out as well. |  |
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:36 - Jan 3 with 475 views | Bluedandy |
No manager in the history of the club has received greater support from the fans than KM.
Since 2002-2003 onwards, our average attendances have smashed past anything enjoyed by either Sir Bobby or Sir Alf.
Our league form at home last season was about the worst in the club's history and yet we achieved our highest ever average attendance. [Post edited 3 Jan 18:37]
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:50 - Jan 3 with 440 views | bazza |
Ashton will kick all the oldies out of the north stand soon. |  | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:52 - Jan 3 with 428 views | Herbivore |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:50 - Jan 3 by bazza |
Ashton will kick all the oldies out of the north stand soon. |
He needs to. |  |
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:56 - Jan 3 with 417 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:50 - Jan 3 by bazza |
Ashton will kick all the oldies out of the north stand soon. |
If the club can have a no U14s policy in SBR lower, then why not a no over 50s policy too?! | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:56 - Jan 3 with 416 views | Illinoisblue |
He’s too polite to go full Sir Bobby and call fans zombies. |  |
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:56 - Jan 3 with 414 views | charlie1 |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 14:15 - Jan 3 by cbower |
He has a fine line to tread IMHO. It's never a good look to be critical of your own support but the best way to respond is to produce on the pitch. You could argue that the first 30 on Friday was indeed good football but accepting some nice patterns of play and a continuance of the improved tempo we had seen at Coventry, we had 1 shot on target in that time (the goal). It is goalmouth action that forces the goalkeeper into genuine action that most enthuses supporters. We need to pull the trigger more often and that will rouse the crowd. [Post edited 3 Jan 14:16]
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Regardless who the opposition are, there are still 11 highly paid players whose primary intent is to stop Town playing decent football and scoring loads.
How many people are being paid to stop our crowd from singing and encouraging the team?
This 'I'll sit on my hands until I see something I deign worthy of wasting my voice on' is horrendously entitled behaviour. | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:57 - Jan 3 with 418 views | bazza |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:52 - Jan 3 by Herbivore |
He needs to. |
I’d certainly say anyone sitting in that lower section who doesn’t sing , has a conscious decision to make, it’s certainly not acoustic, as it’s loud as feck just before kick off, and after we score , there’s just a big divide, between the oldies and the young uns. | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:58 - Jan 3 with 407 views | ITFC_84 |
Just copy and paste into the fans forum of most clubs nowadays. Football has become sanitised. Blame money, blame foreign investment, blame ticket pricing, blame sky, blame social media, blame all of the above? | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 19:03 - Jan 3 with 397 views | Herbivore |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:57 - Jan 3 by bazza |
I’d certainly say anyone sitting in that lower section who doesn’t sing , has a conscious decision to make, it’s certainly not acoustic, as it’s loud as feck just before kick off, and after we score , there’s just a big divide, between the oldies and the young uns. |
I'd say fewer than 10% of the fans around me in SBR lower actually sing. It's really poor. If you want to watch the game quietly, why have a ST in the north stand? | |
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| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 19:03 - Jan 3 with 390 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 18:58 - Jan 3 by ITFC_84 |
Just copy and paste into the fans forum of most clubs nowadays. Football has become sanitised. Blame money, blame foreign investment, blame ticket pricing, blame sky, blame social media, blame all of the above? |
It's true the game has become too sanitised.
Nobody wants a return to the 70s or 80s, but now fans can't even swear without fear of being reported. | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 19:06 - Jan 3 with 389 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
I can't disagree that the atmosphere in home games has been lacking all season, but it is also getting tedious reading so many threads on here about it every week - at what point do we actually do something about it? | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 19:11 - Jan 3 with 368 views | bazza |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 19:03 - Jan 3 by Herbivore |
I'd say fewer than 10% of the fans around me in SBR lower actually sing. It's really poor. If you want to watch the game quietly, why have a ST in the north stand? |
That’s piss poor, agree 100%, I’m not sure an age restriction would be totally fair, but surely anyone over 55-60 should be willing to give their season tickets to the next generation, for The sake of the atmosphere Swap Season tickets. , along with non singers, the club could catch them on CCTV, 3 strikes and you get banished to the upper alf Ramsey . apologies to Anyone who is over 55 and still sings their heart Out. | | | |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 19:14 - Jan 3 with 356 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| KM not impressed with the atmosphere against Ox. on 19:06 - Jan 3 by SWLondonBlue93 |
I can't disagree that the atmosphere in home games has been lacking all season, but it is also getting tedious reading so many threads on here about it every week - at what point do we actually do something about it? |
I'm not sure what can be done.
Can't force people to generate an atmosphere, so unless Ashton allows Blue Action to relocate to SBR lower and moves the existing ST holders (which obvs won't happen) then we're at an impasse. | | | |
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