| They'll block him (Andy Burnham) 09:27 - Jan 25 with 3140 views | gtsb1966 |
You just know they will. It will then lead to infighting and the party tearing itself apart. Starmer is so unpopular he is toast so just let him stand. If they block him that's one vote they've lost whatever happens in the future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
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| They'll block him on 09:36 - Jan 25 with 1654 views | jasondozzell |
That's the Labour right for you.
It's all academic anyway. Burnham isn't the answer. He's in the old mould. Corbyn defeated him to for a reason.
It's too late. It's been too late for years ever since when the Labour right and McSweeney aided by the press, who knew exactly what was going on but didn't say anything because they thought it was clever, inflicted this farce on us and purged the left.
This is all the culmination of the 'adults getting back in the room'. A load of centrists having a tantrum over Corbyn, conspiring in a breathtaking smear which the media ran with because they wanted to keep their power too and one of the biggest political scandals the country has ever seen that was not mentioned in the press.
Their legacy will be delivering a Reform government. [Post edited 25 Jan 9:38]
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| They'll block him on 09:39 - Jan 25 with 1634 views | Dubtractor |
| They'll block him on 09:36 - Jan 25 by jasondozzell |
That's the Labour right for you.
It's all academic anyway. Burnham isn't the answer. He's in the old mould. Corbyn defeated him to for a reason.
It's too late. It's been too late for years ever since when the Labour right and McSweeney aided by the press, who knew exactly what was going on but didn't say anything because they thought it was clever, inflicted this farce on us and purged the left.
This is all the culmination of the 'adults getting back in the room'. A load of centrists having a tantrum over Corbyn, conspiring in a breathtaking smear which the media ran with because they wanted to keep their power too and one of the biggest political scandals the country has ever seen that was not mentioned in the press.
Their legacy will be delivering a Reform government. [Post edited 25 Jan 9:38]
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Talking of McSweeney - marvel here at how successful his plan of appealing to Reform votes has been....
24% of people who voted Labour at the last general election now plan to
vote Green or Lib Dem.
0% of those who voted Reform at the last election now plan to vote Labour. — Adam Bienkov (@adambienkov.bsky.social) 2026-01-21T22:05:46.212Z
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| They'll block him on 09:45 - Jan 25 with 1586 views | jasondozzell |
| They'll block him on 09:39 - Jan 25 by Dubtractor |
Talking of McSweeney - marvel here at how successful his plan of appealing to Reform votes has been....
24% of people who voted Labour at the last general election now plan to
vote Green or Lib Dem.
0% of those who voted Reform at the last election now plan to vote Labour. — Adam Bienkov (@adambienkov.bsky.social) 2026-01-21T22:05:46.212Z
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Sorry meant to be an uppie not a downvote!
Those stats say it all!
Spot on. And he was feted as a political genius!
Emperor's new clothes game nearly up for the press. | | | |
| They'll block him on 09:50 - Jan 25 with 1569 views | redrickstuhaart |
| They'll block him on 09:45 - Jan 25 by jasondozzell |
Sorry meant to be an uppie not a downvote!
Those stats say it all!
Spot on. And he was feted as a political genius!
Emperor's new clothes game nearly up for the press. |
No he wasnt.
I dont understand the excitement at Burnham though. He will not appeal to the middle, without which Labour have never been able to win an election. |  |
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| They'll block him on 09:51 - Jan 25 with 1552 views | jasondozzell |
| They'll block him on 09:50 - Jan 25 by redrickstuhaart |
No he wasnt.
I dont understand the excitement at Burnham though. He will not appeal to the middle, without which Labour have never been able to win an election. |
Yes he was. Mcsweeney was given huge praise by press. They all thought the v plan was clever and they were in on it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
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| They'll block him on 09:56 - Jan 25 with 1535 views | redrickstuhaart |
| They'll block him on 09:51 - Jan 25 by jasondozzell |
Yes he was. Mcsweeney was given huge praise by press. They all thought the v plan was clever and they were in on it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
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I have literally never heard of him. And a telegraph article suggesting some machiavellian entity pulling strings for labour is hardly a positive endorsement! | |
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| They'll block him on 09:59 - Jan 25 with 1514 views | jasondozzell |
| They'll block him on 09:56 - Jan 25 by redrickstuhaart |
I have literally never heard of him. And a telegraph article suggesting some machiavellian entity pulling strings for labour is hardly a positive endorsement! |
If you haven't heard of him I'm not surprised - most of the public won't have.
But the political media elite that run the country knew how important he was. Look up the history of Labour Together.
Public are ill informed because we have poor political journalism.
Starmer was always a Mcsweeney (and therefore Mandelson) project to purge the left.
I could have chosen any paper.
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| They'll block him on 10:17 - Jan 25 with 1421 views | Guthrum |
I don't think they can afford to, it would be way too obvious. What they might try is to extract some kind of pledge not to make a challenge before the next election. |  |
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| They'll block him on 10:26 - Jan 25 with 1373 views | StokieBlue |
| They'll block him on 10:17 - Jan 25 by Guthrum |
I don't think they can afford to, it would be way too obvious. What they might try is to extract some kind of pledge not to make a challenge before the next election. |
Broadcasting House sources saying he won't be allowed to stand.
Guess we will find out in an hour or so.
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| They'll block him on 10:30 - Jan 25 with 1352 views | DanTheMan |
| They'll block him on 10:26 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue |
Broadcasting House sources saying he won't be allowed to stand.
Guess we will find out in an hour or so.
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Be such an own goal. |  |
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| They'll block him on 10:43 - Jan 25 with 1290 views | Guthrum |
| They'll block him on 10:30 - Jan 25 by DanTheMan |
Be such an own goal. |
Indeed. More talent - and much needed charisma - for their front bench and not massively different politically (whatever the rhetoric and things people are projecting onto Burnham).
Unforunately, this lot are so politically clumsy they will probably pick the option with all the downsides and no up. | |
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| They'll block him on 10:56 - Jan 25 with 1244 views | DJR |
| They'll block him on 09:56 - Jan 25 by redrickstuhaart |
I have literally never heard of him. And a telegraph article suggesting some machiavellian entity pulling strings for labour is hardly a positive endorsement! |
That was part of the plan!
Anushka Asthana's book touched on this but not surprisingly got little publicity, as did the failure of Labour Together to declare £730,000 of donations.
https://www.theguardian.com/po
https://www.thelondoneconomic. [Post edited 25 Jan 11:00]
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| They'll block him on 10:58 - Jan 25 with 1225 views | Benters |
As I’ve said daily I really can’t stand Starmer but Jeez look at who would take over it could go from bad to worse. |  |
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| They'll block him on 11:00 - Jan 25 with 1226 views | Guthrum |
| They'll block him on 09:56 - Jan 25 by redrickstuhaart |
I have literally never heard of him. And a telegraph article suggesting some machiavellian entity pulling strings for labour is hardly a positive endorsement! |
McSweeny very much exists and is highly influential. All part of the Blue Labour movement, seeking to steal the Conservatives' clothes. | |
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| They'll block him on 11:04 - Jan 25 with 1207 views | Guthrum |
| They'll block him on 10:58 - Jan 25 by Benters |
As I’ve said daily I really can’t stand Starmer but Jeez look at who would take over it could go from bad to worse. |
That is a big issue Labour has if they want to move on from Starmer. His purging of opponents has left few possible successors.
Mind you, Reform have the same issue. Should Farage depart for any reason, none of the alternatives are really palatable or sufficiently capable. | |
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| They'll block him on 11:06 - Jan 25 with 1195 views | DJR |
The main question for me though is, Does he die his hair? | | | |
| They'll block him on 11:13 - Jan 25 with 1157 views | eireblue |
| They'll block him on 11:04 - Jan 25 by Guthrum |
That is a big issue Labour has if they want to move on from Starmer. His purging of opponents has left few possible successors.
Mind you, Reform have the same issue. Should Farage depart for any reason, none of the alternatives are really palatable or sufficiently capable. |
Feels vs reals is the problem.
As Benter’s constantly reminds us, he hates things. As do many reform voters.
They will vote for any loudmouth that hates the same things, and validates their hates.
Plenty will support Tice. |  | | |
| They'll block him on 11:19 - Jan 25 with 1125 views | redrickstuhaart |
| They'll block him on 10:58 - Jan 25 by Benters |
As I’ve said daily I really can’t stand Starmer but Jeez look at who would take over it could go from bad to worse. |
What are teh worst three things Starmer has done. And what would Burnham do that is worse? | |
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| They'll block him on 11:22 - Jan 25 with 1109 views | bournemouthblue |
| They'll block him on 10:58 - Jan 25 by Benters |
As I’ve said daily I really can’t stand Starmer but Jeez look at who would take over it could go from bad to worse. |
Whilst rabid hard righters and old school Tories might be seduced by Thatcherites on steroids, a fair number of the public will be horrified by Reform so it will be interesting one
I'm not overly keen for these local elections being postponed because it just feeds into the discontent narrative that Reform are feeding off
At least had they had them, it may have appeased them slightly and locals would get a taste of how bad they are
I do think that the more people see if Reform, they less they are going to want them |  |
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| They'll block him on 11:24 - Jan 25 with 1095 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They'll block him on 11:19 - Jan 25 by redrickstuhaart |
What are teh worst three things Starmer has done. And what would Burnham do that is worse? |
I'd bet you any money you like that Benters doesn't know a single thing about Andy Burnham. |  |
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| They'll block him on 11:26 - Jan 25 with 1091 views | BlueBadger |
| They'll block him on 09:50 - Jan 25 by redrickstuhaart |
No he wasnt.
I dont understand the excitement at Burnham though. He will not appeal to the middle, without which Labour have never been able to win an election. |
I'm not sure whose benefit he's for, given that he was responsible for signing off on one of the largest shift of services to the Efficient Private Sector(Suffolk community health services) when he was health secretary.
He's essentially more of the same, only better at pressers. |  |
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| They'll block him on 11:42 - Jan 25 with 1023 views | DJR |
Here's a link to an article about the failure to declare donations, which led to a fine of £14,000.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.
No doubt the lack of publicity at the time was helped by the fact that people knew very little about the very shadowy Labour Together. But we are talking about huge amounts of money that were not properly declared to an organisation responsible for gaining the right total control of the Labour Party.
It's things like this that led me to leave the Labour Party some two or three years ago, having been a member since 1985. [Post edited 25 Jan 11:46]
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| They'll block him (Andy Burnham) on 12:01 - Jan 25 with 983 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| They'll block him (Andy Burnham) on 12:15 - Jan 25 with 935 views | DanTheMan |
| They'll block him (Andy Burnham) on 12:01 - Jan 25 by GlasgowBlue |
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Utter fools. | |
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| They'll block him (Andy Burnham) on 12:26 - Jan 25 with 886 views | Mullet |
One thing which might not be picked up here or nationally is the constituency he was aiming for. It’s very deprived and Reform are making massive inroads online with bots and bigots. The Facebook groups for that area are completely infested with it and the wider area is into the peaks etc so has a weird mix of urban right through to rural poor.
Maybe it’s good for Manchester as he’s done well as mayor, and he’s a very good politician. But it’s a huge loss for the nation potentially. He’s one who seems to have learned from his mistakes in other roles too |  |
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