| Surridge supposedly £5million 09:00 - Jan 29 with 10303 views | AljoBlue |
I know it is from FLW but they claim we are looking to sign Surridge for £5million. Fabrizio Romano claims Norwich are looking to sign Kasper Hogh from Bodo Glimt with a fresh bid of £6.94 million.
Now just think, if we had not spent £12 million on a squad player last window we could buy both of these forwards! [Post edited 29 Jan 9:00]
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 12:40 - Jan 29 with 2666 views | StokieBlue |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 12:33 - Jan 29 by Smoresy |
A little surprised you were prepared to place last month's rumours above other available evidence, especially to the point of suggesting consensus, but I very much agree on the topic being done beyond death.
This is also the week in which we perhaps concede an expenditure of £4m or £5m for Sammie's 18 months of service, excluding wages, yet the chatter around that outlay has been comparatively silent since it became clear he was struggling. Ogbene, £8m. Sindre's terms. Rather unjust to have focused on one player so much to the extent we have, and unclear to me at least who will prove our biggest profit or loss once accounts finally close.
Sam Surridge's last competitive game appears to have been in early November, such is the MLS season. In pre-season at the moment, regular season returns late Feb, so he'd likely need a few weeks to get up to fitness if he is the one. |
Fair point, I hadn't seen Joe's evidence before and maybe it was just the day I was checking when many seemed to agree.
Either way, as you say, continually referencing it isn't helpful.
Good points on Surridge, he would take some time to get fully match fit.
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 12:43 - Jan 29 with 2640 views | muccletonjoe |
I wouldn't waste money on either |  | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 14:11 - Jan 29 with 2464 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I lived in Nashville for a bit and went to their games quite a few times but that was before Surridge was around, a good mate down there is a season ticket holder and rarely misses a game. For what it’s worth this was his assessment.
‘Ipswich can do better. He is decent to good for MLS but doubt he can even really hang in the championship and no chance he can make it in EPL’
That said he might be over estimating the quality of the Championship.
The MLS has improved but the amount of time you have in the final third doesn’t replicate this league and there is some very bang average defenses throughout. [Post edited 29 Jan 14:11]
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 14:15 - Jan 29 with 2439 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 09:26 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe |
I don't think that is the case, there were actually documents released showing the future payments of £4m next season and £4m the season after so the £12m would make sense so that they had 3 equal payments of £4m |
Yeah looking at my Athletic app, this was reported by Ornstein at the time and he is always well sourced.
“Ipswich Town have reached an agreement to sign Leicester City winger Kasey McAteer.
A deal worth £12million guaranteed over three years plus add-ons has been agreed by the two Championship clubs and the 23-year-old has already completed a medical ahead of the move. He will sign a four-year contract at Portman Road”. | |
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 15:00 - Jan 29 with 2342 views | stiff_talking |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 12:33 - Jan 29 by Smoresy |
A little surprised you were prepared to place last month's rumours above other available evidence, especially to the point of suggesting consensus, but I very much agree on the topic being done beyond death.
This is also the week in which we perhaps concede an expenditure of £4m or £5m for Sammie's 18 months of service, excluding wages, yet the chatter around that outlay has been comparatively silent since it became clear he was struggling. Ogbene, £8m. Sindre's terms. Rather unjust to have focused on one player so much to the extent we have, and unclear to me at least who will prove our biggest profit or loss once accounts finally close.
Sam Surridge's last competitive game appears to have been in early November, such is the MLS season. In pre-season at the moment, regular season returns late Feb, so he'd likely need a few weeks to get up to fitness if he is the one. |
Surridge is a decent #9. Took a little time to settle at Nashville but scored important goals in initial season. 2nd season he topped the scoring charts right through the season but he was pipped by Messi right at the end. Good in the air and on the deck. Ipswich attempted to sign him before his move to MLS. Nashville now selling all top players right now. This is a plausible link. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 15:04 - Jan 29 with 2276 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 15:00 - Jan 29 by stiff_talking |
Surridge is a decent #9. Took a little time to settle at Nashville but scored important goals in initial season. 2nd season he topped the scoring charts right through the season but he was pipped by Messi right at the end. Good in the air and on the deck. Ipswich attempted to sign him before his move to MLS. Nashville now selling all top players right now. This is a plausible link. |
It would be quite a big adjustment to be thrown in a Championship promotion chasing side in the US off season though. Not saying it can't or won't work but hope he could get up to match speed at this level pretty fast. | |
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 15:22 - Jan 29 with 2245 views | DJR |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 15:04 - Jan 29 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It would be quite a big adjustment to be thrown in a Championship promotion chasing side in the US off season though. Not saying it can't or won't work but hope he could get up to match speed at this level pretty fast. |
Those were my thoughts too. And we can see how Egeli has struggled with the increased pace and physicality, especially being denied goals that he probably would have scored in Norway. [Post edited 29 Jan 15:33]
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 15:35 - Jan 29 with 2187 views | ipswichtillidie |
Can’t see us going for Surridge tbh. Phil implied he was a little way down our list. You’d hope a primary target would more on the cards. Could be an interesting last few days watching the dominoes fall.. [Post edited 29 Jan 15:38]
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 17:10 - Jan 29 with 1935 views | Libero |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 09:05 - Jan 29 by franz_tyson |
5 million seems unreassuringly low.
Makes me think he is sh1te. |
He is, it surprises me people want him here.
Moved to play in the USA at 25, having never achieved double figures over six seasons as a professional in England, playing a minimum of 20 games a season but more often than not playing 35+ games.
180 games in leagues in England, 42 goals, 8 of those were in non-league, 16 in League Two.
When you break down his stats, you realise why he left to play in the MLS at such a young age, where he seemingly has found his level with 38 goals in 71 appearances.
I’d be really disappointed if we signed him. |  | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 18:12 - Jan 29 with 1822 views | have_a_word_with_him |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 09:11 - Jan 29 by StokieBlue |
I think the consensus now is that it fee was a lot less than 12m for McAteer.
Not sure it needs to be continually mentioned as a negative, especially if it's not right.
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I'm no fan of that transfer or the lack of impact of the player, but you're right it needs to stop being brought up. It's done, get behind anyone in a blue shirt and want them to do well. |  | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 18:28 - Jan 29 with 1770 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 17:10 - Jan 29 by Libero |
He is, it surprises me people want him here.
Moved to play in the USA at 25, having never achieved double figures over six seasons as a professional in England, playing a minimum of 20 games a season but more often than not playing 35+ games.
180 games in leagues in England, 42 goals, 8 of those were in non-league, 16 in League Two.
When you break down his stats, you realise why he left to play in the MLS at such a young age, where he seemingly has found his level with 38 goals in 71 appearances.
I’d be really disappointed if we signed him. |
That's not true. Had 3 seasons scoring double figures. They werent all league goals but no reason not to count a few cup goals as part of the season.
Additionally goals are not what he's all about, but great to see he's added that to his game and 31 goals in the MLS is not to be sniffed at even if it's a different standard. Only Messi scored more.
It hink people see that he's a good fit for the System which is important. He's strong and mobile and will bring others in the game whilst contributing with goals. I don't think he guarantees super high goals in our system as it's just not how we work. But I would back him to get 12-15 in a full champ season + work well in the system.
Probably more of an outright 9 then Piroe.
The key part is what we can get in the market that work in our system. Fits that even if not perfect. | |
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 18:32 - Jan 29 with 1760 views | JeremiahBrown |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 17:10 - Jan 29 by Libero |
He is, it surprises me people want him here.
Moved to play in the USA at 25, having never achieved double figures over six seasons as a professional in England, playing a minimum of 20 games a season but more often than not playing 35+ games.
180 games in leagues in England, 42 goals, 8 of those were in non-league, 16 in League Two.
When you break down his stats, you realise why he left to play in the MLS at such a young age, where he seemingly has found his level with 38 goals in 71 appearances.
I’d be really disappointed if we signed him. |
Yes I would too. I think it would be a mistake. Also, he would take time to get match fit. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 20:48 - Jan 29 with 1591 views | Libero |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 18:28 - Jan 29 by Nutkins_Return |
That's not true. Had 3 seasons scoring double figures. They werent all league goals but no reason not to count a few cup goals as part of the season.
Additionally goals are not what he's all about, but great to see he's added that to his game and 31 goals in the MLS is not to be sniffed at even if it's a different standard. Only Messi scored more.
It hink people see that he's a good fit for the System which is important. He's strong and mobile and will bring others in the game whilst contributing with goals. I don't think he guarantees super high goals in our system as it's just not how we work. But I would back him to get 12-15 in a full champ season + work well in the system.
Probably more of an outright 9 then Piroe.
The key part is what we can get in the market that work in our system. Fits that even if not perfect. |
Crikey- clutching at straws somewhat. Yes, I’m counting league goals exclusively- as frankly, I don’t care how many goals he’s got in St Johnstones games, etc. I did him the kindness of counting his loan spells in non league.
His goalscoring ratio is very poor and I’ve seen nothing to suggest he offers anything that none of our current trio do already, to any notable lr el of improvement.
There’s zero evidence that he has it in him to score 15 championship goals in one season, most he has ever got in a single season at any level in England is 8…
Yes, he’s more of an outright 9 than Piroe, but so is Andy Carroll…
Surridge is substantially poorer than all 3 of our options in the 9 currently. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 20:55 - Jan 29 with 1566 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 18:12 - Jan 29 by have_a_word_with_him |
I'm no fan of that transfer or the lack of impact of the player, but you're right it needs to stop being brought up. It's done, get behind anyone in a blue shirt and want them to do well. |
100%.
I also think someone shared a stat the other day where McAteer featured very high on big chances created per minutes played. The fact those haven't ended as assists isn't down to him. He has had a lot of unfair criticism (and some of that seems to be getting directed at Egeli too now). |  |
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 21:43 - Jan 29 with 1473 views | Smoresy |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 20:48 - Jan 29 by Libero |
Crikey- clutching at straws somewhat. Yes, I’m counting league goals exclusively- as frankly, I don’t care how many goals he’s got in St Johnstones games, etc. I did him the kindness of counting his loan spells in non league.
His goalscoring ratio is very poor and I’ve seen nothing to suggest he offers anything that none of our current trio do already, to any notable lr el of improvement.
There’s zero evidence that he has it in him to score 15 championship goals in one season, most he has ever got in a single season at any level in England is 8…
Yes, he’s more of an outright 9 than Piroe, but so is Andy Carroll…
Surridge is substantially poorer than all 3 of our options in the 9 currently. |
Kindness I suggest would be to reflect on his last time in the Championship, when Forest signed him in January '22 and he went on to score 7 goals in 17 games, helping to deliver them into the promised land. Extrapolating from that may be inappropriate but it would have amounted to 19 goals across a full season.
Kindness could also have been to reflect on the fast-dwindling gap between Championship and MLS standard, with the top 10 and top 5 teams in each division very close indeed now according to Opta. Boro's new CB, Malanda, arrival from Charlotte, has looked incredibly at ease while slotting straight into the heart of their defence, regrettably. Kevin Denkey, a striker coveted by many on here in summer '24, has so far found goals easier to come by in the Belgian Pro League, which is the closest league in the world to Championship standard and contains better sides at the summit. The generosity of such comparison would lend greater weight to Surridge's 24 goals in 34 games last season.
I don't hope we sign Surridge more than the other names listed because I've given up predicting how any would fare here, following my Chuba disappointment. No hoops were needed in presenting a more optimistic picture than you have though lol. I remember when Daryl Murphy was considered barely capable of 10 goals in a season, and he was older then than Surridge is now. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 21:52 - Jan 29 with 1414 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 20:48 - Jan 29 by Libero |
Crikey- clutching at straws somewhat. Yes, I’m counting league goals exclusively- as frankly, I don’t care how many goals he’s got in St Johnstones games, etc. I did him the kindness of counting his loan spells in non league.
His goalscoring ratio is very poor and I’ve seen nothing to suggest he offers anything that none of our current trio do already, to any notable lr el of improvement.
There’s zero evidence that he has it in him to score 15 championship goals in one season, most he has ever got in a single season at any level in England is 8…
Yes, he’s more of an outright 9 than Piroe, but so is Andy Carroll…
Surridge is substantially poorer than all 3 of our options in the 9 currently. |
I’ve not seen much of him in fairness, is he good at hold up play to bring our other forwards into the game?
I ask because judging on goals alone doesn’t make sense in the way that we play. Hirst has been far from prolific, and his record before us was far worse than Surridge’s. Big Kieffer had a better scoring record than Hirst but clearly wasn’t as good at the role of holding up the balll and creating chances for others.
On paper he looks like he’d strengthen the squad and probably be more clinical tha Azon/Akpom? | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 22:30 - Jan 29 with 1307 views | Libero |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 21:43 - Jan 29 by Smoresy |
Kindness I suggest would be to reflect on his last time in the Championship, when Forest signed him in January '22 and he went on to score 7 goals in 17 games, helping to deliver them into the promised land. Extrapolating from that may be inappropriate but it would have amounted to 19 goals across a full season.
Kindness could also have been to reflect on the fast-dwindling gap between Championship and MLS standard, with the top 10 and top 5 teams in each division very close indeed now according to Opta. Boro's new CB, Malanda, arrival from Charlotte, has looked incredibly at ease while slotting straight into the heart of their defence, regrettably. Kevin Denkey, a striker coveted by many on here in summer '24, has so far found goals easier to come by in the Belgian Pro League, which is the closest league in the world to Championship standard and contains better sides at the summit. The generosity of such comparison would lend greater weight to Surridge's 24 goals in 34 games last season.
I don't hope we sign Surridge more than the other names listed because I've given up predicting how any would fare here, following my Chuba disappointment. No hoops were needed in presenting a more optimistic picture than you have though lol. I remember when Daryl Murphy was considered barely capable of 10 goals in a season, and he was older then than Surridge is now. |
It would be exceedingly kind to look at that outlier, indeed.
I fear your assessment of the gap between the Championship and the MLS is similarly exceedingly kind.
When Daryl Murphy arrived at Ipswich on loan for the first time he had spent three years playing a bit part role in the Premier League (54 games in 3 seasons) with Sunderland, whom he helped to promotion before that with 10 goals in 38 Championship games. Before that, he'd played 18 goals in the Premier League for Sunderland, afrer arriving from Ireland, where he'd scored 30 goals in 75 games.
In my opinion their records just aren't comparable.
I do appreciate you trying to be charitable to Surridge though - I'm just very much not a fan. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 22:35 - Jan 29 with 1282 views | Libero |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 21:52 - Jan 29 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’ve not seen much of him in fairness, is he good at hold up play to bring our other forwards into the game?
I ask because judging on goals alone doesn’t make sense in the way that we play. Hirst has been far from prolific, and his record before us was far worse than Surridge’s. Big Kieffer had a better scoring record than Hirst but clearly wasn’t as good at the role of holding up the balll and creating chances for others.
On paper he looks like he’d strengthen the squad and probably be more clinical tha Azon/Akpom? |
I agree with you, there's more needed for our centre forwards than just goals- I've not watched him since he moved to the USA, but he's not a player I've ever thought had notable talents in pressing/holding up the ball/etc.
I think the idea that he'd be more clinical than Azon and especially Akpom is unsubstanciated. I'd have to look at the statistics again, Akpom scored 28 goals in a Championship season once- Surridge has never hit double figures in the Championship and has five more goala in all of his 5 seasons in the EFL than Akpom scored in that one season. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 23:50 - Jan 29 with 1201 views | Smoresy |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 22:30 - Jan 29 by Libero |
It would be exceedingly kind to look at that outlier, indeed.
I fear your assessment of the gap between the Championship and the MLS is similarly exceedingly kind.
When Daryl Murphy arrived at Ipswich on loan for the first time he had spent three years playing a bit part role in the Premier League (54 games in 3 seasons) with Sunderland, whom he helped to promotion before that with 10 goals in 38 Championship games. Before that, he'd played 18 goals in the Premier League for Sunderland, afrer arriving from Ireland, where he'd scored 30 goals in 75 games.
In my opinion their records just aren't comparable.
I do appreciate you trying to be charitable to Surridge though - I'm just very much not a fan. |
For clarity, the assesment is by Opta and their statisticians are the gold standard. You're not short of confidence if you believe yourself more informed. It's quite plain from my perspective that you're being exceedingly uncharitable, as is your right of course and I respect that right.
Speaking factually, Surridge has been on an upward trajectory. Forest identified him to help achieve PL promotion, buying him for £2m from another Championship club. He must have impressed despite his scoring record, otherwise the transfer wouldn't have happened. And they got it right; he did very well in this league at his last club, including in front of goal. Forest then recruited the most players ever for an inaugural PL season, spent the most money ever, but still found reason to play him off the bench in 20 games, far more than most who came up in that squad. Nashville then signed him for £5m, he increased in value, and they too identified correctly as he's gone on to be prolific for them. Success, increased value, success, upward curve.
Maybe not good enough for us, certainly not from your point of view, but from my perspective he deserved a fairer summary than you gave him lol. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 00:28 - Jan 30 with 1142 views | Libero |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 23:50 - Jan 29 by Smoresy |
For clarity, the assesment is by Opta and their statisticians are the gold standard. You're not short of confidence if you believe yourself more informed. It's quite plain from my perspective that you're being exceedingly uncharitable, as is your right of course and I respect that right.
Speaking factually, Surridge has been on an upward trajectory. Forest identified him to help achieve PL promotion, buying him for £2m from another Championship club. He must have impressed despite his scoring record, otherwise the transfer wouldn't have happened. And they got it right; he did very well in this league at his last club, including in front of goal. Forest then recruited the most players ever for an inaugural PL season, spent the most money ever, but still found reason to play him off the bench in 20 games, far more than most who came up in that squad. Nashville then signed him for £5m, he increased in value, and they too identified correctly as he's gone on to be prolific for them. Success, increased value, success, upward curve.
Maybe not good enough for us, certainly not from your point of view, but from my perspective he deserved a fairer summary than you gave him lol. |
You’re gonna need to share that data with the class, because it’s frankly ridiculous to claim that the MLS is as good as the Championship for quality.
I remember Bradley Wright-Phillips having a similar “upward trajectory” after he found his level in the MLS - are you American/living in America per chance? [Post edited 30 Jan 0:29]
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 08:41 - Jan 30 with 921 views | itfcjoe |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 22:35 - Jan 29 by Libero |
I agree with you, there's more needed for our centre forwards than just goals- I've not watched him since he moved to the USA, but he's not a player I've ever thought had notable talents in pressing/holding up the ball/etc.
I think the idea that he'd be more clinical than Azon and especially Akpom is unsubstanciated. I'd have to look at the statistics again, Akpom scored 28 goals in a Championship season once- Surridge has never hit double figures in the Championship and has five more goala in all of his 5 seasons in the EFL than Akpom scored in that one season. |
I like what we've seen of Azon lately, but to suggest a guy who has top scored in a league is less clinical than a player who has scored 2 goals and missed 12 big chances this season, on top of a record where he averaged a goal every 288 minutes for a decent side in the Spanish second tier is mad.
Akpom has been a very good finisher in the past, and looks as though he has it in him without the all round game needed for how we see a 9.
Surridge was brilliant for Forest in their promotion run, and for me is a more mobile Hirst with a better touch - he would have been a good signing when we tried to get him when he went out to Nashville; but can only assume/hope he's improved as a player in that time |  |
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 09:07 - Jan 30 with 849 views | Libero |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 08:41 - Jan 30 by itfcjoe |
I like what we've seen of Azon lately, but to suggest a guy who has top scored in a league is less clinical than a player who has scored 2 goals and missed 12 big chances this season, on top of a record where he averaged a goal every 288 minutes for a decent side in the Spanish second tier is mad.
Akpom has been a very good finisher in the past, and looks as though he has it in him without the all round game needed for how we see a 9.
Surridge was brilliant for Forest in their promotion run, and for me is a more mobile Hirst with a better touch - he would have been a good signing when we tried to get him when he went out to Nashville; but can only assume/hope he's improved as a player in that time |
That’s a fair criticism and there are flaws to my logic, especially as I’m refusing to acknowledge Surrudge’s MLS record.
I’m able to acknowledge that I’m bias towards Azon, as I believe he’s been incredibly unlucky and is actually doing everything right. I’m impressed by him as a player and believe he will be a success and that when he gets a goal, they’ll start flowing (pure eye test, not data driven, as my other arguments are- so it’s absolutely a bias)
I’m also able to acknowledge I’m bias against Surridge, who I’ve seen a number of times and always wondered what on earth people see in him, which when coupled with his record in English football, leaves me with a very poor opinion of him as a player, despite him doing a Bradley Wright Phillips in MLS.
I’m not sure that any European player has ever been ‘improved’ to the extent that Surridge will have need to have, to be considered a good signing, by going to the MLS. [Post edited 30 Jan 9:14]
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 10:29 - Jan 30 with 717 views | itfcjoe |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 09:07 - Jan 30 by Libero |
That’s a fair criticism and there are flaws to my logic, especially as I’m refusing to acknowledge Surrudge’s MLS record.
I’m able to acknowledge that I’m bias towards Azon, as I believe he’s been incredibly unlucky and is actually doing everything right. I’m impressed by him as a player and believe he will be a success and that when he gets a goal, they’ll start flowing (pure eye test, not data driven, as my other arguments are- so it’s absolutely a bias)
I’m also able to acknowledge I’m bias against Surridge, who I’ve seen a number of times and always wondered what on earth people see in him, which when coupled with his record in English football, leaves me with a very poor opinion of him as a player, despite him doing a Bradley Wright Phillips in MLS.
I’m not sure that any European player has ever been ‘improved’ to the extent that Surridge will have need to have, to be considered a good signing, by going to the MLS. [Post edited 30 Jan 9:14]
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If he is as good as he was for Forest when he signed for them, and therefore not improved at all, he'd still be a cracking signing [7 goals and an assist in 623 minutes - goal contribution every 78 minutes]
Azon has scored 2 goals, and neither have led to them leading to the flurry of goals - he looks like he has it in him but sadly no data from time at Zaragoza for things like xG to see whether he is just a long term poor finisher | |
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| Surridge supposedly £5million on 10:38 - Jan 30 with 675 views | Libero |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 10:29 - Jan 30 by itfcjoe |
If he is as good as he was for Forest when he signed for them, and therefore not improved at all, he'd still be a cracking signing [7 goals and an assist in 623 minutes - goal contribution every 78 minutes]
Azon has scored 2 goals, and neither have led to them leading to the flurry of goals - he looks like he has it in him but sadly no data from time at Zaragoza for things like xG to see whether he is just a long term poor finisher |
I hear that, although you conveniently ignoring twenty premier league appearances where he registered a solitary goal...
Hirst managed treble that in the Premier League in only 6 more games and we were relegated- Surridge just isn't the answer in my opinion and wouldn't be a significant upgrade on Hirst, et al.
Azon is pure eye-test, as it stands right now.
He needs a bit of luck, but as I've said, i'm able to acknowledge the illogical bias towards him currently. | | | |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 11:05 - Jan 30 with 554 views | itfcjoe |
| Surridge supposedly £5million on 10:38 - Jan 30 by Libero |
I hear that, although you conveniently ignoring twenty premier league appearances where he registered a solitary goal...
Hirst managed treble that in the Premier League in only 6 more games and we were relegated- Surridge just isn't the answer in my opinion and wouldn't be a significant upgrade on Hirst, et al.
Azon is pure eye-test, as it stands right now.
He needs a bit of luck, but as I've said, i'm able to acknowledge the illogical bias towards him currently. |
20 PL appearances was 323 minutes
Sam Surridge 1 goal per 323 minutes in Premier League
Ivan Azon 1 goal per 278 minutes in Segunda Division
George Hirst 1 goal per 220 minutes in Premier League
Hirst did really well last year, and with the new contract, good pre season, number 9 shirt, it looked like it was the season he would really break out - but just looks bereft of confidence and that it isn't going to happen | |
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