| The utter stench of corruption 20:13 - Jan 31 with 6311 views | bluelagos |
The Sky news reporting on Mandleson whose partner takes money from Epstein and then Epstein lobbies for a change of govt. policy on banker bonuses. Mandelson seemingly trying to get changes to the govt policy.
Really makes you wonder just how deceitful our politics is. It really feeds the desire to get shot of the lot of them.
Can only see yet more drift to the extremes in UK politics.
Oh, and that nonce Andrew and Fergie in hock to him, wtaf |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 21:04 - Jan 31 with 3092 views | vapour_trail |
QEII spent how much of our money to get nonce Andrew off the hook? £12m wasn’t it.
GSTQ. GSTK.
Nonce apologists. |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 12:16 - Feb 1 with 2949 views | Swansea_Blue |
This should be a much larger story than it is. It’s odd how some news goes viral and other seriously important stuff that gets to the heart of what’s wrong with things gets less attention (see also Sudan for a very different type of example). |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 12:29 - Feb 1 with 2899 views | DJR |
| The utter stench of corruption on 12:16 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
This should be a much larger story than it is. It’s odd how some news goes viral and other seriously important stuff that gets to the heart of what’s wrong with things gets less attention (see also Sudan for a very different type of example). |
When it comes to much that we rarely get to hear about, I am always reminded of the words of George Orwell in what was intended to be the preface to Animal Farm.
"Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news—things which on their own merits would get the big headlines—being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is ‘not done’ to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was ‘not done’ to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals." [Post edited 1 Feb 12:41]
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| The utter stench of corruption on 12:33 - Feb 1 with 2862 views | noggin |
| The utter stench of corruption on 21:04 - Jan 31 by vapour_trail |
QEII spent how much of our money to get nonce Andrew off the hook? £12m wasn’t it.
GSTQ. GSTK.
Nonce apologists. |
Obviously we don't know the context but that photo of Andrew, kneeling over and touching the girl, is disturbing, to say the least. |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 12:39 - Feb 1 with 2831 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely!
I believe power and money protect their own, and at the detriment of the rest of civilization .
It has always been this way and always will, until a revolution! |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 12:46 - Feb 1 with 2794 views | noggin |
| The utter stench of corruption on 12:39 - Feb 1 by BlacknGoldnBlue |
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely!
I believe power and money protect their own, and at the detriment of the rest of civilization .
It has always been this way and always will, until a revolution! |
Even the crown princess of Norway is implicated in the latest files. A pretty disturbing email she sent to Epstein, about her son. I wonder how far this filthy net will eventually reach. | |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 12:49 - Feb 1 with 2775 views | DJR |
Mandelson has always been a freeloader. He loves the lifestyle but doesn't have the same wealth as those he likes to mix with.
After all, one of his early resignations followed an undisclosed loan from Geoffrey Robinson, the wealthy Labour minister.
https://www.heraldscotland.com [Post edited 1 Feb 12:50]
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| The utter stench of corruption on 12:59 - Feb 1 with 2714 views | TIB |
| The utter stench of corruption on 12:16 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
This should be a much larger story than it is. It’s odd how some news goes viral and other seriously important stuff that gets to the heart of what’s wrong with things gets less attention (see also Sudan for a very different type of example). |
Probably because the people who can control the news flow were also on the island / are on the payroll 😂
I’ve never really had a strong opinion on the royals, but after this, they chose to try and cover up Andrew and Fergie’s doings to keep up appearances, good PR and not jeopardise their wealth.
I know it was always deemed “tinfoil hat” territory but it now feels like we are just scratching the surface on this, it’s already messed up and we still have more dominoes left to topple. |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:06 - Feb 1 with 2690 views | Zx1988 |
| The utter stench of corruption on 21:04 - Jan 31 by vapour_trail |
QEII spent how much of our money to get nonce Andrew off the hook? £12m wasn’t it.
GSTQ. GSTK.
Nonce apologists. |
Not to mention the fact that cutting him loose from The Firm seems to have stopped any links between him and the Royal Family.
He was Prince Andrew at the time that the offences were committed, and when Liz paid off Giuffre, and no amount of 'Plain Old Andrew-ing' him will or should change that.
You can see how heavily lawyered all of the BBC's articles are, but I can't see how, say, 'disgraced former Royal' could be any way inaccurate or libellous. [Post edited 1 Feb 13:23]
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:07 - Feb 1 with 2666 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
When I read the title of this post, I assumed it was about Busby's performance yesterday. |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:11 - Feb 1 with 2634 views | DJR |
When he dies, this quote from him ought to go on his gravestone.
"We are intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich." | | | |
| The utter stench of corruption on 13:13 - Feb 1 with 2611 views | noggin |
I doubt Andrew will be sweating over the latest release of files 🙄 | |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:31 - Feb 1 with 2570 views | glasso |
| The utter stench of corruption on 12:16 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
This should be a much larger story than it is. It’s odd how some news goes viral and other seriously important stuff that gets to the heart of what’s wrong with things gets less attention (see also Sudan for a very different type of example). |
These days, so many people seem to conflate/confuse the *actual* media with social media.
A story gets reported, and whether it goes viral or not is entirely down to us, the people. More often than not, the people who ensure these things go viral are the ones with a vested interest.
It's why crimes committed by immigrants seem so prevalent.
Crime by an immigrant is reported - shared widely by 'those people' and outrage is manufactured - people think it's happening more than it actually is - the media spots a huge spike in viewership/readership figures and makes sure it reports on those crimes in future - 'those people' share it even more...
It's a vicious cycle and we feed it.
The number of times I see people asking on social media, 'why is this story not being reported by the MSM?' and I stick it into Google to find that pretty much every part of the MSM has reported on it. What they really mean, is 'I don't read the MSM, but why have my people on Twitter not shared it?' [Post edited 1 Feb 13:32]
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:38 - Feb 1 with 2534 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The utter stench of corruption on 13:31 - Feb 1 by glasso |
These days, so many people seem to conflate/confuse the *actual* media with social media.
A story gets reported, and whether it goes viral or not is entirely down to us, the people. More often than not, the people who ensure these things go viral are the ones with a vested interest.
It's why crimes committed by immigrants seem so prevalent.
Crime by an immigrant is reported - shared widely by 'those people' and outrage is manufactured - people think it's happening more than it actually is - the media spots a huge spike in viewership/readership figures and makes sure it reports on those crimes in future - 'those people' share it even more...
It's a vicious cycle and we feed it.
The number of times I see people asking on social media, 'why is this story not being reported by the MSM?' and I stick it into Google to find that pretty much every part of the MSM has reported on it. What they really mean, is 'I don't read the MSM, but why have my people on Twitter not shared it?' [Post edited 1 Feb 13:32]
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:39 - Feb 1 with 2531 views | LeoMuff |
What I don’t is that Epstein ran what was he ran a trafficking and child prostitution ring with presumably quite a few clients, and one of the main protagonists in alive and in jail.
How come not a single person involved has been prosecuted, while Maxwell has been sent to a more comfortable prison, surely all the names are out there with evidence ? |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:39 - Feb 1 with 2527 views | Dubtractor |
| The utter stench of corruption on 13:31 - Feb 1 by glasso |
These days, so many people seem to conflate/confuse the *actual* media with social media.
A story gets reported, and whether it goes viral or not is entirely down to us, the people. More often than not, the people who ensure these things go viral are the ones with a vested interest.
It's why crimes committed by immigrants seem so prevalent.
Crime by an immigrant is reported - shared widely by 'those people' and outrage is manufactured - people think it's happening more than it actually is - the media spots a huge spike in viewership/readership figures and makes sure it reports on those crimes in future - 'those people' share it even more...
It's a vicious cycle and we feed it.
The number of times I see people asking on social media, 'why is this story not being reported by the MSM?' and I stick it into Google to find that pretty much every part of the MSM has reported on it. What they really mean, is 'I don't read the MSM, but why have my people on Twitter not shared it?' [Post edited 1 Feb 13:32]
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:42 - Feb 1 with 2518 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The utter stench of corruption on 13:39 - Feb 1 by LeoMuff |
What I don’t is that Epstein ran what was he ran a trafficking and child prostitution ring with presumably quite a few clients, and one of the main protagonists in alive and in jail.
How come not a single person involved has been prosecuted, while Maxwell has been sent to a more comfortable prison, surely all the names are out there with evidence ? |
Of course they are and being protected. Anyone who thinks the DOJ hasn't spent the last 6 weeks checking these documents and removing anything they felt was 'not public interest' is very naive | |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 13:58 - Feb 1 with 2441 views | Miaow |
| The utter stench of corruption on 21:04 - Jan 31 by vapour_trail |
QEII spent how much of our money to get nonce Andrew off the hook? £12m wasn’t it.
GSTQ. GSTK.
Nonce apologists. |
Yeah, but they bring in so much money to this country and our tourist numbers would be 0 without them.
Or something like that. |  |
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| The utter stench of corruption (n/t) on 14:00 - Feb 1 with 2429 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
One of the problems of this is that it will feed support for Reform who are seen as being somehow different.
However, in addition to there being plenty of evidence of corruption within Reform, they are increasingly being made up of the very same lot of MPs who were in the governments involved. [Post edited 1 Feb 14:01]
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| The utter stench of corruption on 14:08 - Feb 1 with 2380 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The utter stench of corruption on 13:31 - Feb 1 by glasso |
These days, so many people seem to conflate/confuse the *actual* media with social media.
A story gets reported, and whether it goes viral or not is entirely down to us, the people. More often than not, the people who ensure these things go viral are the ones with a vested interest.
It's why crimes committed by immigrants seem so prevalent.
Crime by an immigrant is reported - shared widely by 'those people' and outrage is manufactured - people think it's happening more than it actually is - the media spots a huge spike in viewership/readership figures and makes sure it reports on those crimes in future - 'those people' share it even more...
It's a vicious cycle and we feed it.
The number of times I see people asking on social media, 'why is this story not being reported by the MSM?' and I stick it into Google to find that pretty much every part of the MSM has reported on it. What they really mean, is 'I don't read the MSM, but why have my people on Twitter not shared it?' [Post edited 1 Feb 13:32]
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Whilst correct, there is also a degree to which the MSM relies on hits/sales/etc. They will focus on what they can gain those from - what they perceive to be attractive to those who are interacting with them in that way. Even before social media, the amount of coverage given to something like Bhopal was disproportionately small compared with the scale of the disaster and coverage given to some smaller-scale industrial disasters. | |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 14:32 - Feb 1 with 2299 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The utter stench of corruption on 13:42 - Feb 1 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Of course they are and being protected. Anyone who thinks the DOJ hasn't spent the last 6 weeks checking these documents and removing anything they felt was 'not public interest' is very naive |
It seems exceedingly likely there’s a DOJ coverup. The court order was to release all the Epstein files. The DOJ have not done that and, as you say, the redacting would go beyond what you might expect to protect the identities of the victims (another condition of the court order and also one the DOJ have failed to comply with - so we can add incompetence to the charge sheet as well).
I’m not au fait enough with the info to suspect who they’re protecting, but they’re 100% stalling and seemingly hiding a lot more. | |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 14:36 - Feb 1 with 2283 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The utter stench of corruption on 14:32 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
It seems exceedingly likely there’s a DOJ coverup. The court order was to release all the Epstein files. The DOJ have not done that and, as you say, the redacting would go beyond what you might expect to protect the identities of the victims (another condition of the court order and also one the DOJ have failed to comply with - so we can add incompetence to the charge sheet as well).
I’m not au fait enough with the info to suspect who they’re protecting, but they’re 100% stalling and seemingly hiding a lot more. |
The redacting (from what I hear) would suggest that whoever did it thought the victims described those accused of wrongdoing. | |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 14:36 - Feb 1 with 2282 views | Zx1988 |
| The utter stench of corruption on 14:32 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
It seems exceedingly likely there’s a DOJ coverup. The court order was to release all the Epstein files. The DOJ have not done that and, as you say, the redacting would go beyond what you might expect to protect the identities of the victims (another condition of the court order and also one the DOJ have failed to comply with - so we can add incompetence to the charge sheet as well).
I’m not au fait enough with the info to suspect who they’re protecting, but they’re 100% stalling and seemingly hiding a lot more. |
Absolutely.
Funny how there have been so many photos/emails/direct references to others like Prince Nonce, Gates, Musk et al, but the majority of references to Trump seem to be anonymous calls to the FBI tip line, which seem to be capable of being much more easily brushed off. | |
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| The utter stench of corruption on 15:51 - Feb 1 with 2173 views | OldFart71 |
The art seems to be just talk quietly in a slightly apologetic way and act like you are slightly naive when it comes to things like this. Where your "best mate" all of a sudden becomes your worst nightmare when you are found out. You then get shuffled to one side like a naughty schoolboy, but you still have close chums in the right places who will no doubt say in the open what a bad boy you have been, but will close ranks when it comes to any real consequences. | | | |
| The utter stench of corruption on 17:58 - Feb 1 with 2036 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The utter stench of corruption on 14:36 - Feb 1 by Zx1988 |
Absolutely.
Funny how there have been so many photos/emails/direct references to others like Prince Nonce, Gates, Musk et al, but the majority of references to Trump seem to be anonymous calls to the FBI tip line, which seem to be capable of being much more easily brushed off. |
Yes, Trump’s in plenty of pictures so was clearly in that environment and comfortable around the girls. There’s not much else coming out though (from what I’ve seen).
There’s been a peculiar reluctance on this side of the Atlantic to investigate further too, which is a bit odd given that lawyers for the victims maintain that the UK was one of the “centrepieces” of Epstein’s sec trafficking operation. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
It makes you wonder how deep it all goes. | |
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