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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins 22:41 - Feb 9 with 10165 viewsJ2BLUE

If you're still working and you vote for Reform you really have a screw loose


Truly impaired.
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:32 - Feb 10 with 888 viewsDanTheMan

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:30 - Feb 10 by The_Flashing_Smile

I undertsand that there are some bat-sh!t climate deniers, but why would you want to get rid of solar panels that already exist? What harm are they doing?


Because solar is a threat to the fossil fuel industry.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:33 - Feb 10 with 889 viewschicoazul

Interesting that many TWTDers seem to think working from home is a “workers’right”.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:35 - Feb 10 with 879 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:32 - Feb 10 by DanTheMan

Because solar is a threat to the fossil fuel industry.


Ah, I see. That famously sustainable and non-damaging industry.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:40 - Feb 10 with 860 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 07:39 - Feb 10 by The_Flashing_Smile

Depends what your job is Benters. I have to actively NOT concentrate at times, to let my subconscious do its thing.


You should see if you can't get a contract with Reform Dollers as this would look great on their campaign literature!!

"I have to actively NOT concentrate at times, to let my subconscious do its thing."

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:41 - Feb 10 with 856 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:00 - Feb 10 by DJR

Here is something from the Guardian about yesterday's speech. It's all really soundbites designed to appeal to their potential voters but it doesn't really amount to a set of serious policies that are going to solve the country's deep-seated problems.

"Nigel Farage has doubled down on culture war rhetoric at a rally where he told thousands of Reform UK’s rank and file that he was opening up the party’s lists to candidates for a general election.

The Reform leader drew cheers for a speech at the Birmingham NEC where said that a Reform UK government would get rid of all solar farms and take on “leftwing teaching unions.” He added that a Reform government would also ensure there was respect [that] “Judeo-Christian principles underpin the entirety of our civilization”.

Farage also ratcheted up the party’s claims that crime was out of control, claiming that there had been a “near total collapse of law and order” in cities such as London."
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He actually said this out loud and not just in his head! Blimey we're in trouble aren't we!

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:45 - Feb 10 with 847 viewsSwansea_Blue

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:33 - Feb 10 by chicoazul

Interesting that many TWTDers seem to think working from home is a “workers’right”.


I wouldn't say WFH is a right, but they do want to reduce protections that we would all consider rights.

They want to "review" things like aid statutory sick pay and holiday pay.
They've said they would reduce the minimum wage for some people
They're against working time protections for employees
They want to remove lots of discrimination and equality legislation

So yes, Reform would attack workers' rights

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:48 - Feb 10 with 834 viewschicoazul

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:45 - Feb 10 by Swansea_Blue

I wouldn't say WFH is a right, but they do want to reduce protections that we would all consider rights.

They want to "review" things like aid statutory sick pay and holiday pay.
They've said they would reduce the minimum wage for some people
They're against working time protections for employees
They want to remove lots of discrimination and equality legislation

So yes, Reform would attack workers' rights


What equality legislation do they want to remove?

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:50 - Feb 10 with 833 viewsDevereuxxx

The thing I find hardest to pallet is a room full of people who are aged 70+ cheering decisions on how I live and work, while they are safe in the knowledge their pensions are triple locked and it won't impact their fortnightly visit to their GP.

That to me is a greater injustice than people working from home.
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:50 - Feb 10 with 829 viewsSwansea_Blue

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:48 - Feb 10 by chicoazul

What equality legislation do they want to remove?


They've said they's scrap EDI rules, so very much going down the Trump route

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:50 - Feb 10 with 828 viewsDJR

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:41 - Feb 10 by BanksterDebtSlave

He actually said this out loud and not just in his head! Blimey we're in trouble aren't we!


He's been saying this sort of thing for a long time, as have the right wing media.

On another thread, I had a link to diary entries from Peter Oborne. This one is particularly pertinent.

"Far-Right Gift
December 2024, pp.6-7
I try not to read mainstream newspapers these days. The reporting is bent, the opinion columns deranged, and you almost never learn anything new or worthwhile. But, the day after Donald Trump won the American presidency for a second time, I made a special trip to the newsagents and bought the lot. Almost without exception, they amplified, normalised or celebrated the result, while mocking Trump’s defeated opponent, Kamala Harris. This was power worship rather than serious journalism.

Britain’s three big newspaper groups – Murdoch, the Rothermere empire, and the Telegraph Group – between them account for about three-quarters of newspaper readers. Yet, anybody with half an ounce of decency and intelligence can see that Trump’s victory is an unmitigated disaster for the United States and a mortal threat to her allies. It is plain from the favourable newspaper coverage here in Britain that Trump’s victory is a spectacular and, in all likelihood, game-changing gift to the far-right.

The Sun set aside two pages for Islamophobe Douglas Murray, who praised Trump for his war on immigration. Elsewhere, Murray issued a photograph of himself in consultation with the next US President at an “historic evening yesterday at Mar-a-Lago”. The Telegraph awarded Nigel Farage front page space for an article calling on Britain to “roll out the red carpet” for Trump. Meanwhile, The Daily Mail gave over a full page to a tirade demanding that Farage should be the next British ambassador to the United States.

Trump’s noxious brand of Republicanism, which has nothing in common with British conservatism, is already crossing the Atlantic. Two former Conservative Prime Ministers – Boris Johnson and Liz Truss – supported Trump ahead of the election. They and others want to do to the Conservatives what Donald Trump has achieved with the Republicans: capture a famous political party and use its name for the promotion of a movement that has more in common with fascism than Conservatism.

With three major newspaper groups on-side, it is hard to see what will stop the eventual merger of Reform UK and the Conservatives, and the creation of a party akin to AfD or National Rally in Germany and France. In theory, the Tory lurch to Trumpian politics ought to open up immense vistas of political space for Keir Starmer.

Very sadly, under the baleful influence of his strategist (now Chief of Staff) Morgan McSweeney, the Labour Leader has so far chosen to appease rather than challenge Trump’s mutant politics. In the wake of Trump’s victory Starmer will need to choose between Macron’s Europe and Trump’s United States."
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:50 - Feb 10 with 832 viewsEJP

Out of interest, I wonder how much city office space is owned by the higher-ups of Reform?
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:08 - Feb 10 with 774 viewsBlueNomad

I’m retired and never worked from home. The only thing I know about it is that I would have been getting up to make a cup of tea or otherwise get distracted every half hour! I enjoyed being around other people and then being able to completely switch off from work as soon as I got home.

I admire the self-discipline required for wfh, but it wouldn’t have worked for me.
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:19 - Feb 10 with 750 viewsStokieBlue

Quite a few companies agree with him unfortunately.

Like with nearly everything he says, he is of course wrong and in reality it depends very much on the role and the individual.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 with 745 viewsBiGDonnie

He's right though.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:24 - Feb 10 with 724 viewsBiGDonnie

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:33 - Feb 10 by chicoazul

Interesting that many TWTDers seem to think working from home is a “workers’right”.


Whilst posting on TWTD during work hours

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:25 - Feb 10 with 719 viewsDanTheMan

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 by BiGDonnie

He's right though.


I'm more productive but it'll depend on the person and the job.

In the office I'd constantly get people distracting me when I want to focus.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:27 - Feb 10 with 704 viewsMattinLondon

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:08 - Feb 10 by BlueNomad

I’m retired and never worked from home. The only thing I know about it is that I would have been getting up to make a cup of tea or otherwise get distracted every half hour! I enjoyed being around other people and then being able to completely switch off from work as soon as I got home.

I admire the self-discipline required for wfh, but it wouldn’t have worked for me.


That’s what I would have said prior to lockdown when WFH became normal for many people. I can’t speak for anyone else but I quickly adjusted and those distractions simply blended into the background - I’m guessing that this was the case for many others as well.

When I WFH I think I’m actually more productive - instead of an hours commute into work, I can work instead and the same on the way back home as well. I actually now find the office more distracting but talking with colleagues is better in person than remotely.

Let’s be honest, the real reason he wants to end WFH is that he and his mates have a lot of money invested in office space which isn’t being utilised as much. It’s just self-interest.
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:41 - Feb 10 with 666 viewsGuthrum

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 by BiGDonnie

He's right though.


Is it not easier to attract top quality staff if they can work anywhere, rather than having to move to wherever the office is (something which can change on the whim of a boss)?

Or the salary boost you'd have to offer someone to move to London or (the way things are going) Manchester?

Edit: I'm not an office worker, but it seems from talking to family and friends that a hybrid format is best. Minimises commuting while still retaining some of the face-to-face time (which can have benefits from cross-fertilisation of ideas).
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Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:42 - Feb 10 with 649 viewsleitrimblue

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 07:35 - Feb 10 by Benters

I mean how do those of you WHO work from home concentrate when you are posting on here during the day?

Money for old rope innit.


If I'm not within 3 meters of the coffee machine and 2 meters of the biscuit tin my productivity just goes through the floor man.

And obviously the more I post on here the harder I work inbetween to make up for those lost posting minutes
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:50 - Feb 10 with 618 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:08 - Feb 10 by BlueNomad

I’m retired and never worked from home. The only thing I know about it is that I would have been getting up to make a cup of tea or otherwise get distracted every half hour! I enjoyed being around other people and then being able to completely switch off from work as soon as I got home.

I admire the self-discipline required for wfh, but it wouldn’t have worked for me.


You say that, but your working life was during a time when WFH wasn't a thing, so you don't have the experience to draw from. Like anything, you get used to it. I work in an office where you can get up and make a tea any time you want, so I wouldn't see that as an issue.

I also like being in an office with other people. But then you waste time and money travelling in (very often standing on a packed train, which isn't pleasant) and invariably end up having a late dinner due to travelling home again. All this assuming the trains aren't fecked, as they often are. And you spend more on lunch etc.

At the moment I'm in the office Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, which seems a decent balance. And it's a lovely office, right next to Liverpool St. Station, decent (subsidised) bar/restaurant on the 8th floor, table tennis table on our floor, plenty of desks but also comfy areas, and quiet areas. So there's pluses and minuses on both sides.

But why politicians need to get involved is beyond me.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:55 - Feb 10 with 606 viewsBlueBadger

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 by BiGDonnie

He's right though.


Hmmmmmm......

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:55 - Feb 10 with 593 viewsRalphinho

Explains why he is never in his 'home' constituency.

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:55 - Feb 10 with 589 viewsMeadowlark

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 00:17 - Feb 10 by reusersfreekicks

The hypocrisy of the grifting work shy racist is incredible.
But will appeal to his aged white men base


I'm an aged white man and I detest the bloke - probably more than I detested Thatcher if that's possible? And I didn't vote for Brexit.
Although that demographic split probably exists, I must say that in my personal peer group he doesn't have any fans.
I think his appeal is across the generations, like Trump, to those that are hard of thinking.
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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:57 - Feb 10 with 580 viewsBlueBadger

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:08 - Feb 10 by BlueNomad

I’m retired and never worked from home. The only thing I know about it is that I would have been getting up to make a cup of tea or otherwise get distracted every half hour! I enjoyed being around other people and then being able to completely switch off from work as soon as I got home.

I admire the self-discipline required for wfh, but it wouldn’t have worked for me.


You say this like anyone working in an office never takes an extra 10 minutes in the bog having a poo, takes an extra fag break, occasionally wanders off to chat with their colleagues....

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Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:58 - Feb 10 with 567 viewsBlueBadger

Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:33 - Feb 10 by chicoazul

Interesting that many TWTDers seem to think working from home is a “workers’right”.


Interesting that you seem to think that it shouldn't be an option.

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