| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins 22:41 - Feb 9 with 12201 views | J2BLUE |
If you're still working and you vote for Reform you really have a screw loose
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:09 - Feb 10 with 847 views | FrimleyBlue |
Think they may lose a lot of voters with that tbh
Work life balance is a very important change to life. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:18 - Feb 10 with 806 views | MattinLondon |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:09 - Feb 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Think they may lose a lot of voters with that tbh
Work life balance is a very important change to life. |
With Reform performing well in the polls hopefully such speeches will get dissected more by the main channels and this may produce some kickback.
But I’m guessing that the vast majority of their supporters are old and retired who think that WFH is something only lazy people do. Or people who cannot work from home as they are more manual workers. Obviously I’m generalising here. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:19 - Feb 10 with 792 views | Benters |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 07:49 - Feb 10 by jontysnut |
Would I still be able to work from Wetherspoons? |
Yes I collect glasses it’s alright you get to sip the dregs if there’s any left. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:20 - Feb 10 with 795 views | chicoazul |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:58 - Feb 10 by BlueBadger |
Interesting that you seem to think that it shouldn't be an option. |
We’ve gone from a right to an option so far.
The reality is, if people are so much more productive at home then private companies will continue to offer it to them. Whether it remains either a right or an option depending on who you talk to, in the public sector, remains to be seen. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:21 - Feb 10 with 785 views | Benters |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:11 - Feb 10 by DanTheMan |
I do it the same way I did when I posted on here in the office. |
Well yes you can have as many laptops/devices as you want I guess.
Nice work if you can get it. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:23 - Feb 10 with 773 views | Benters |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 by BiGDonnie |
He's right though. |
He is and they don’t like it up em. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:24 - Feb 10 with 774 views | Herbivore |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:23 - Feb 10 by Benters |
He is and they don’t like it up em. |
He's not right though. You agreeing with him doesn't make him right, if anything it's more likely to indicate the opposite. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:27 - Feb 10 with 749 views | Benters |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:24 - Feb 10 by Herbivore |
He's not right though. You agreeing with him doesn't make him right, if anything it's more likely to indicate the opposite. |
Never been a pen pusher myself,I was building and gardening.
But surely people are more productive working in a office than at home.
(Waits for some smart arse to post a link saying it’s the opposite or doesn’t make any difference). | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:28 - Feb 10 with 741 views | DanTheMan |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:27 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Never been a pen pusher myself,I was building and gardening.
But surely people are more productive working in a office than at home.
(Waits for some smart arse to post a link saying it’s the opposite or doesn’t make any difference). |
So you've never worked in an office environment but you're sure that people would be more productive in one? |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:31 - Feb 10 with 730 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 23:13 - Feb 9 by MattinLondon |
The thing is that they are pretty honest in what they want - probably more honest than all of the main parties put together. They want to eradicate workers rights, they want to get rid of equality legislation and they want to get rid of the NHS.
The only way to stop Reform is to hold them to account rather than try to out-Reform them. And we need the BBC to hold Farage to account instead of simply giving him a free ride.
Oh - and anyone who votes for Reform is a selfish traitorous c**t. |
I completely agree with yer first 2 paragraphs.
But the final paragraph is part of the reason Reform will probably win the next election. Just labelling everyone who isn't willing to vote for inept current versions of Labour or the Tories as 'selfish treacherous c**ts' really doesn't help.
If Labour or the Tories want to stop Reform winning the next election then they have to offer voters something more appealing then Nig. So far they are failing to do that |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:32 - Feb 10 with 713 views | Benters |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:28 - Feb 10 by DanTheMan |
So you've never worked in an office environment but you're sure that people would be more productive in one? |
Obvious isn’t it. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:33 - Feb 10 with 710 views | DJR |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:27 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Never been a pen pusher myself,I was building and gardening.
But surely people are more productive working in a office than at home.
(Waits for some smart arse to post a link saying it’s the opposite or doesn’t make any difference). |
I first worked from home well over 15 years ago because our office was securely set up to do it and the job I did often entailed long periods where it wasn't necessary to talk to a soul. Indeed, when I joined our office, the head of our office jokingly described it as a bit like a monastery.
But the real advantage was the 3 hours of commuting time I saved, and which could be put to use if one was exceptionally busy.
Of course, I was later in life, so not so much dependent on work for a social life, but I am not sure it is so good for those who are younger to work from home, especially with loneliness being an increased thing amongst the young. [Post edited 10 Feb 10:59]
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:34 - Feb 10 with 709 views | DanTheMan |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:32 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Obvious isn’t it. |
I work for a Fintech unicorn with a $1billion+ valuation.
They don't even have an office. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:34 - Feb 10 with 709 views | eireblue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:23 - Feb 10 by Benters |
He is and they don’t like it up em. |
He isn’t, and how would you know?
Have you worked from home?
If I was to go to the office, it will take 3.5 hours of my day.
I am paid on results not hours worked, and for the last 30 years I have mostly worked for US HQ companies, so I will work in the evening on occasion.
My pets and family are happier, I have less impact on the environment, something you pretend to care about, I also have more time to do things locally, so money gets spent on local activities rather than wasting time on trains and tubes.
You are wrong, Nigel is wrong. And I exceeded my targets by 20% this year, and still have time to correct you.
You are the one that doesn’t like it up em, and can’t tolerate people that live a different but more productive life. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:35 - Feb 10 with 697 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:27 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Never been a pen pusher myself,I was building and gardening.
But surely people are more productive working in a office than at home.
(Waits for some smart arse to post a link saying it’s the opposite or doesn’t make any difference). |
The office is gonna be stinking of stale farts and rammed full of pr1cks Benters. Nobody wants to deal with that.
And they all get upset when I light up my 3'o clock spliff  | | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:38 - Feb 10 with 675 views | glasso |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 by BiGDonnie |
He's right though. |
Why is he right?
I work from home some days and in the office other days. It's perfect for me. Allows me to do a bit more of the parent duties (school drop offs etc) without it encroaching on work hours, means I save about £75 per week in travel costs, and means my employer needs a much smaller office than it would otherwise.
Kind of mad that the same people who want us all to have more children, also want to make it even more difficult to look after those children, and none of their supporters seem to mind.
Today I'm able to go to a doctor's appointment in my lunch break without taking a day/half day off work for it.
Given that I have colleagues around the world, half the time I end up going to the office and sitting on Teams calls with people who aren't in the office. What's the benefit to that?
If I was slacking in my job, they'd get rid of me (I'm only on a FTC), so my work clearly has no problem with it.
Whatever happened to capitalism finding a way? If my employer noticed that everything was going to sh*t now we're able to work from home, you can be absolutely sure they'd be calling us all in without needing Farage to tell them it's OK. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:39 - Feb 10 with 658 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 by BiGDonnie |
He's right though. |
Except he’s not. There have been enough studies that show productivity increases when there a WFH option. And that’s before other benefits such as companies offering WFH are more likely to attract and retain better staff.
There is an issue with some employers not trusting staff and thus thinking staff don’t work as hard at home, but that contradicts evidence and says more about paranoid employers.
Obviously some people will take the piss, just like they do in the office too. That can be managed through clear policies. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:40 - Feb 10 with 646 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:21 - Feb 10 by BiGDonnie |
He's right though. |
Put that phone down an get back on that griddle Donnie, those Mcmuffins aren't gonna cook themselves | | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:42 - Feb 10 with 640 views | Herbivore |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:27 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Never been a pen pusher myself,I was building and gardening.
But surely people are more productive working in a office than at home.
(Waits for some smart arse to post a link saying it’s the opposite or doesn’t make any difference). |
Well this is interesting. You don't even have personal experience of office work but you're sure that people must be more productive in the office than working from home. You're basing this on a hunch and yet you're certain that it's obvious.
A smart arse already posted a link earlier in the thread, here it is again for you: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/stu
Personally, I put more stock in actual research than I do in the hunch of a gardener and a grifter. So you and Farage aren't right and you might want to reflect on why you're so certain that you both are. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:43 - Feb 10 with 638 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:34 - Feb 10 by DanTheMan |
I work for a Fintech unicorn with a $1billion+ valuation.
They don't even have an office. |
Come on Dan it’s just common sense. There are never any distraction in an office and everything is on hand and you don’t have to spend any time getting to and fro.
But if you work from home there’s a chance you may put the kettle on | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:45 - Feb 10 with 619 views | MattinLondon |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:27 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Never been a pen pusher myself,I was building and gardening.
But surely people are more productive working in a office than at home.
(Waits for some smart arse to post a link saying it’s the opposite or doesn’t make any difference). |
Stating the truth isn’t being a smart arse. | | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:52 - Feb 10 with 594 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:34 - Feb 10 by eireblue |
He isn’t, and how would you know?
Have you worked from home?
If I was to go to the office, it will take 3.5 hours of my day.
I am paid on results not hours worked, and for the last 30 years I have mostly worked for US HQ companies, so I will work in the evening on occasion.
My pets and family are happier, I have less impact on the environment, something you pretend to care about, I also have more time to do things locally, so money gets spent on local activities rather than wasting time on trains and tubes.
You are wrong, Nigel is wrong. And I exceeded my targets by 20% this year, and still have time to correct you.
You are the one that doesn’t like it up em, and can’t tolerate people that live a different but more productive life. |
"I am paid on results not hours worked"
I think this is something lots of people (particularly mid 40s+) struggle to come to accept or come to terms with. With the pace of advances in technology, many jobs can be done in half the time they could have been done 20 years ago. 'Hours worked' is quite an archaic measure of productivity for some roles - not all obviously, but some. I've worked in a couple of jobs over the past decade where people that 'work smart' i.e are technologically literate are literally more productive in half the hours of a colleague. I've seen a colleague add up numbers on their calculator because they didn't know Excel did it for you! [Post edited 10 Feb 10:53]
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:57 - Feb 10 with 560 views | Benters |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:34 - Feb 10 by eireblue |
He isn’t, and how would you know?
Have you worked from home?
If I was to go to the office, it will take 3.5 hours of my day.
I am paid on results not hours worked, and for the last 30 years I have mostly worked for US HQ companies, so I will work in the evening on occasion.
My pets and family are happier, I have less impact on the environment, something you pretend to care about, I also have more time to do things locally, so money gets spent on local activities rather than wasting time on trains and tubes.
You are wrong, Nigel is wrong. And I exceeded my targets by 20% this year, and still have time to correct you.
You are the one that doesn’t like it up em, and can’t tolerate people that live a different but more productive life. |
I’m sorry but that last part isn’t correct.
I am always pleased to see people getting on in life. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:57 - Feb 10 with 563 views | BlueBadger |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 07:35 - Feb 10 by Benters |
I mean how do those of you WHO work from home concentrate when you are posting on here during the day?
Money for old rope innit. |
Mate, if working form the office guaranteed no distractions and improved productivity Phil and Gav would have had to get proper jobs more than 20 years ago. [Post edited 10 Feb 11:03]
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