| The split in the far-right vote 04:10 - Feb 18 with 5870 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Great to see. Albeit Lowe on Twitter is disturbing.
Anyone on here willing to admit they would vote Restore? Makes Farage and his lot look moderate in comparison some of that nazi sh** coming from Lowe. |  |
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| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 20:33 - Feb 18 with 739 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 20:24 - Feb 18 by Swansea_Blue |
Democracy starts to become devalued when we don’t participate. But of course it’s a choice, so we have to respect people’s decisions. We take voting and honest elections for granted, but they can be a fragile thing (even the US may find that out in their midterms as crazy as that sounds). The options may be crap, but we have a duty to select the least crap. If people don’t engage* with politics it also leaves the field open to the cranks and weirdos.
*This isn’t aimed at Glassers as he’s been more active than most of us in the past, so we can forgive him an election off! And that’s what we need - we need more people stepping up to get involved in local politics. |
I certainly didn't mean my comment as a pop at GB and apologies to him if that's how it came across.
But I do think it important to register your vote even if it is to take the trouble to spoil your ballot paper. And where there is one or more positively dangerous alternative, if there is one that isn't to show your support of them above the dangerous one(s). |  |
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| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 20:34 - Feb 18 with 738 views | J2BLUE |
| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 20:24 - Feb 18 by Swansea_Blue |
Democracy starts to become devalued when we don’t participate. But of course it’s a choice, so we have to respect people’s decisions. We take voting and honest elections for granted, but they can be a fragile thing (even the US may find that out in their midterms as crazy as that sounds). The options may be crap, but we have a duty to select the least crap. If people don’t engage* with politics it also leaves the field open to the cranks and weirdos.
*This isn’t aimed at Glassers as he’s been more active than most of us in the past, so we can forgive him an election off! And that’s what we need - we need more people stepping up to get involved in local politics. |
I don't agree. Voting is a right and a choice, not an obligation.
I think the attitude that we somehow should vote just plays into their hands. Sometimes it is perfectly acceptable not to bother. It's another way of showing them that none of them inspired you. I certainly wouldn't feel any guilt about not voting.
I did vote for Labour and I will vote in the local elections and the next general election because I really don't want to see Reform in power but if it ever goes back to the Tories vs Labour where the only difference between them is the colour of tie they wear then I might not bother. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 20:46 - Feb 18 with 699 views | JackNorthStand |
| The split in the far-right vote on 19:28 - Feb 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You are expecting a change to the voting system or you get two votes somehow? |
You may want to re-read, what I actually wrote. |  | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:51 - Feb 18 with 677 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:46 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
You may want to re-read, what I actually wrote. |
I was (clearly I hope) being facetious. But what you wrote was "could now consider voting for Restore Britain also." (emphasis mine) Which would suggest you were considering voting twice.
I knew what you meant which was clear and hence why I hoped the facetiousness of my reply was clear.
Apologies if it wasn't. | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 with 649 views | JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK | | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:59 - Feb 18 with 631 views | Mullet |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
They’re basically everything the far right hate. Heavily smeared by their media because they expose right wing scumbags. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:08 - Feb 18 with 614 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 18:30 - Feb 18 by BlueForYou |
A quick look brings up......
Labour. Green. SWP. Your Party. Workers Party. Communist Party. Revolutionary Communist Party. Plaid Cymru. SNP. Social Justice Party. Transform Party.
Sinn Fein attracts many voters but doesn't sit in Parliament. |
So some of those aren't UK wide. And Labour aren't remotely left wing currently. And the others will have about 10 candidates between them. It's important to question your sources sometimes, fam. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:14 - Feb 18 with 600 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
God yeah, they're awful. They care about shit like human rights and equality, the massive fannies. Best to ignore them and go for those lovely fluffy folks at Restore or Reform or whatever other boll0cks R word they're going for. Those guys who would have cosied up to the Nazis and who would sell their own mother for a few quid are definitely the salt of the Earth types we need running the country. | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:17 - Feb 18 with 591 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
You do realise what the opposite of "anti-fascist" is, don't you?
You are correct that they are openly left-wing. | |
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| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 21:27 - Feb 18 with 549 views | Bigalhunter |
| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 20:34 - Feb 18 by J2BLUE |
I don't agree. Voting is a right and a choice, not an obligation.
I think the attitude that we somehow should vote just plays into their hands. Sometimes it is perfectly acceptable not to bother. It's another way of showing them that none of them inspired you. I certainly wouldn't feel any guilt about not voting.
I did vote for Labour and I will vote in the local elections and the next general election because I really don't want to see Reform in power but if it ever goes back to the Tories vs Labour where the only difference between them is the colour of tie they wear then I might not bother. |
It’s that level of apathy that resulted in Brexit, although that’s probably a poor example as I seem to recall you voted in favour of it….
If you can’t decide between Labour and Conservative, do a bit of research and at least hold your nose and pick something that isn’t related to the words Nigel and Farage…
There’ll be websites that will help you with a tactical vote to keep Reform out, unless you don’t like Carol Vorderman and aren’t too bothered if he gets in? |  |
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| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 21:33 - Feb 18 with 544 views | J2BLUE |
| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 21:27 - Feb 18 by Bigalhunter |
It’s that level of apathy that resulted in Brexit, although that’s probably a poor example as I seem to recall you voted in favour of it….
If you can’t decide between Labour and Conservative, do a bit of research and at least hold your nose and pick something that isn’t related to the words Nigel and Farage…
There’ll be websites that will help you with a tactical vote to keep Reform out, unless you don’t like Carol Vorderman and aren’t too bothered if he gets in? |
Did you miss the bit where I said I will vote in the next elections because I don't want Reform in power?
I will be voting for whatever party is most likely to beat Reform in Ipswich. I assume it will be Labour. | |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:50 - Feb 18 with 512 views | Whos_blue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
Anti Fascist?
That's a good thing right?
Balanced article?
Hopkins, SYL, much of Reform and most if Restore are balanced?
Come on mate. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:52 - Feb 18 with 501 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
Well I'd be deeply concerned if they were "pro fascist"? Then they would be called Hate Not Hope. [Post edited 18 Feb 22:01]
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| The split in the far-right vote on 21:59 - Feb 18 with 449 views | lowhouseblue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 21:52 - Feb 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Well I'd be deeply concerned if they were "pro fascist"? Then they would be called Hate Not Hope. [Post edited 18 Feb 22:01]
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do you mean:
if they were pro "anti-fascist"; or
if they weren't pro "anti-fascist"; or
if they were pro-fascist?
i'm guessing the the 2nd or 3rd. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:01 - Feb 18 with 441 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 21:59 - Feb 18 by lowhouseblue |
do you mean:
if they were pro "anti-fascist"; or
if they weren't pro "anti-fascist"; or
if they were pro-fascist?
i'm guessing the the 2nd or 3rd. |
yeah. forgot to delete his anti part. | |
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| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 22:07 - Feb 18 with 413 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Monty Brewster had it right...... on 20:34 - Feb 18 by J2BLUE |
I don't agree. Voting is a right and a choice, not an obligation.
I think the attitude that we somehow should vote just plays into their hands. Sometimes it is perfectly acceptable not to bother. It's another way of showing them that none of them inspired you. I certainly wouldn't feel any guilt about not voting.
I did vote for Labour and I will vote in the local elections and the next general election because I really don't want to see Reform in power but if it ever goes back to the Tories vs Labour where the only difference between them is the colour of tie they wear then I might not bother. |
I said it’s a choice and we have to respect that choice. If we don’t use it we have to be prepared to lose it. And then I think people would see the need. So yes, socially I think we have a duty to vote for that reason (and it was hard won originally too).
But of course it’s a choice. The downside of not voting is that low turnouts tend to favour cranks (I think). |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:16 - Feb 18 with 376 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
Hope not hate also called out the anti-semitism in Corbyn’s Labour so I think it’s fair to say they are consistently anti-racist, and not politically motivated.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/201 | | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:40 - Feb 18 with 324 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
Superb stuff. You’ve gone down the rabbit hole a bit on this one haven’t you.
But you’re in good hands with Reclaim Britain. Mark Collard of Patriotic Alternative is a big fan apparently. The only thing left to decide is where to get the celebratory swastika tattoo. Probably best to hide it imo, as they’re still a bit unpopular.
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| The split in the far-right vote on 22:56 - Feb 18 with 309 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The split in the far-right vote on 18:43 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
I would consider voting for Restore Britain and think that many people who were considering voting reform could now consider voting for Restore Britain also. |
Wow.
Are you sure they are racist enough for you? |  | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:01 - Feb 18 with 293 views | StokieBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:57 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Thanks for sharing. I looked into hope not hate and can see they are left wing political activists so I’m unsure how balanced the article is.
“Hope Not Hate is a self-described “anti-fascist” pressure group based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 2004 by communist-affiliated Nick Lowles after the antecedent group, Searchlight, of which Lowles was a co-editor, abused its charitable status by engaging in political activism.”
Source: Mallard UK |
This is a clear ad hominem.
You've attacked the source rather than engaging with the content.
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| The split in the far-right vote on 23:45 - Feb 18 with 244 views | JackNorthStand |
| The split in the far-right vote on 21:52 - Feb 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Well I'd be deeply concerned if they were "pro fascist"? Then they would be called Hate Not Hope. [Post edited 18 Feb 22:01]
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Ha ha thats a fair point.
I read the article you shared, some of which I can agree with and some I don’t. My post was legitimate about questioning the value of the article with what I read about hope not hate. | | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:48 - Feb 18 with 229 views | JackNorthStand |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:01 - Feb 18 by StokieBlue |
This is a clear ad hominem.
You've attacked the source rather than engaging with the content.
SB |
No attack from me, just questioning how balanced the source is, given things that can be found online surrounding hope not hate and their political activism. | | | |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:50 - Feb 18 with 225 views | StokieBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:48 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
No attack from me, just questioning how balanced the source is, given things that can be found online surrounding hope not hate and their political activism. |
You're just proving my point.
You've not provided any evidence of it not being balanced, your just questioning the balance as it doesn't support your world view.
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| The split in the far-right vote on 23:51 - Feb 18 with 224 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The split in the far-right vote on 23:45 - Feb 18 by JackNorthStand |
Ha ha thats a fair point.
I read the article you shared, some of which I can agree with and some I don’t. My post was legitimate about questioning the value of the article with what I read about hope not hate. |
It really isn't legitimate.
Your source was shit
We should all be thankful for the work hope not hate do in exposing extremists with a penchant for violence.
You are considering voting for people who would have had us siding with Hitler in the 30s. If that's what you believe we should have done fill your boots | | | |
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