| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? 01:42 - Feb 20 with 3396 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I’m not saying this as a statement just asking the question for someone that has been to one game this year and rarely looks at Twitter. Maybe it’s way worse than I understand.
Narratives quickly pick up pace but I hate for half the fan base to be labeled as “abusing” a player when it’s not true. There’s criticism, frustration (maybe about recruitment in the position as well that boils over) and abuse, all very different things.
I’ve heard radio interviews, podcasts and now KM talking about it in one week. It can cause a bit of a rift in and more edginess in the support when it gathers momentum. I always think social media is a very small subset of fans, like a tiny percentage in reality but they are also the loudest. A few idiots make a video and suddenly becomes a major topic. We’ve always had a bit of a groany fanbase and I’ve heard a lot of idiotic stuff at PR over the years but when you think we have 28k home fans and one of the best away support in the division, is it as bad as people are saying?!
Can’t help but think a lot of this energy would be better spent and making noise and creating atmosphere to show support, which has been lacking at home at times. Not like these muppets are being drowned out much!
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 04:13 - Feb 20 with 2267 views | Illinoisblue |
I see the whopper who made the video compilation of Hirst misses deleted his post from Twitter. Maybe for a brief second he realized what a c***y thing to do that was. Or not. Fans seem angry this season. We have the best form over last 20 games but it doesn’t feel like it to a lot of fans. Assume a combination of favorite players no longer here, an expectation we should win every game, and, most importantly, people now have no patience, want the moon on a stick and want it yesterday, and are generally whiny little bitches (in life, not just football). |  |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 04:23 - Feb 20 with 2201 views | Benters |
Even the best strikers go through goal droughts time to time.Unfortunately I only listen now on Radio Suffolk and you can hear the abuse he sometimes gets.
I believe We were favourites for the top position and I guess people take that as gospel.
Getting back to the atmosphere’ again even the top clubs are quiet nowadays.
Modern football is crap. [Post edited 20 Feb 4:52]
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 05:20 - Feb 20 with 2147 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 04:13 - Feb 20 by Illinoisblue |
I see the whopper who made the video compilation of Hirst misses deleted his post from Twitter. Maybe for a brief second he realized what a c***y thing to do that was. Or not. Fans seem angry this season. We have the best form over last 20 games but it doesn’t feel like it to a lot of fans. Assume a combination of favorite players no longer here, an expectation we should win every game, and, most importantly, people now have no patience, want the moon on a stick and want it yesterday, and are generally whiny little bitches (in life, not just football). |
I agree with some of that but the first 10 games still count!! All that matters is where we end up and we came into the season in a huge position of financial strength. Any thing other than PL football next season is a big failure.
Doesn’t meant anyone should abuse players. [Post edited 20 Feb 5:25]
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 05:27 - Feb 20 with 2116 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 04:23 - Feb 20 by Benters |
Even the best strikers go through goal droughts time to time.Unfortunately I only listen now on Radio Suffolk and you can hear the abuse he sometimes gets.
I believe We were favourites for the top position and I guess people take that as gospel.
Getting back to the atmosphere’ again even the top clubs are quiet nowadays.
Modern football is crap. [Post edited 20 Feb 4:52]
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We were favorites and we have underperformed thus far from a points perspective but we have every chance to go up automatically still, none of this really answers my question in a specific player that seems to have made the headlines this week. | |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 05:53 - Feb 20 with 2051 views | Benters |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 05:27 - Feb 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
We were favorites and we have underperformed thus far from a points perspective but we have every chance to go up automatically still, none of this really answers my question in a specific player that seems to have made the headlines this week. |
Well no of course you shouldn’t abuse the players doesn’t help does it. | |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 05:58 - Feb 20 with 2081 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 05:53 - Feb 20 by Benters |
Well no of course you shouldn’t abuse the players doesn’t help does it. |
Well obviously, I was asking if it was being overstated or not. | |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 06:28 - Feb 20 with 2026 views | Benters |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 05:58 - Feb 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Well obviously, I was asking if it was being overstated or not. |
I have heard there are new signs being put up on the gates saying ‘no hissing tutting or booing allowed’.Its hardly toxic stuff but it’s definitely there. | |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 07:29 - Feb 20 with 1962 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 04:13 - Feb 20 by Illinoisblue |
I see the whopper who made the video compilation of Hirst misses deleted his post from Twitter. Maybe for a brief second he realized what a c***y thing to do that was. Or not. Fans seem angry this season. We have the best form over last 20 games but it doesn’t feel like it to a lot of fans. Assume a combination of favorite players no longer here, an expectation we should win every game, and, most importantly, people now have no patience, want the moon on a stick and want it yesterday, and are generally whiny little bitches (in life, not just football). |
The beginning of the season didn’t help the narrative that ‘we should’ve just kept the lads that got us there’, and people have ran with that ever since. I’ve even had a mate say he wouldn’t enjoy promotion as he doesn’t like this group of players.
Fact is, none of them, except Hutchinson and Delap have made upwards moves and I think we’d have been far worse off if we had tried sticking with them. |  |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 07:36 - Feb 20 with 1930 views | RobTheMonk |
Hirst looks like he has footballing yips at the moment.
Desperately needs a goal which can hopefully bring his confidence back. |  | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:16 - Feb 20 with 1858 views | Dubtractor |
Definitely not overblown.
Its actually not too bad on here re Hirst and negative comments, but other social media is dreadful, likewise the comments in the ground.
Pretty weird tbh that you're more worried about the narrative around this causing a problem, rather than the actual actions of supporters resulting in that reaction. And by your own admission you're not even looking at the social media where this is happening, nor in the ground. [Post edited 20 Feb 8:25]
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:19 - Feb 20 with 1845 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
the way i see it is people have gone completely OTT saying there is abuse, i've seen sarcasm and p155taking but no personal abuse directed at him. (and i highly doubt anyone could provide evidence of this - if they can fair play, and i've just not seen it)
saying he'd miss blowing out his birthday candles isnt abuse
we are ipswich ffs, people are so precious |  | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:23 - Feb 20 with 1794 views | Benters |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:19 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
the way i see it is people have gone completely OTT saying there is abuse, i've seen sarcasm and p155taking but no personal abuse directed at him. (and i highly doubt anyone could provide evidence of this - if they can fair play, and i've just not seen it)
saying he'd miss blowing out his birthday candles isnt abuse
we are ipswich ffs, people are so precious |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:27 - Feb 20 with 1792 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Some of the stuff I've seen aimed at Hirst on socials is pretty pathetic tbh. Say he isn't playing well, fine but its overstepped the mark a bit.
Ive found our support to be pretty poor this season. Been a few decent away atmospheres. But been pretty poor at home I think. |  |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:28 - Feb 20 with 1787 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:27 - Feb 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Some of the stuff I've seen aimed at Hirst on socials is pretty pathetic tbh. Say he isn't playing well, fine but its overstepped the mark a bit.
Ive found our support to be pretty poor this season. Been a few decent away atmospheres. But been pretty poor at home I think. |
whats been said thats over stepped the mark?
i ask this as someone thats seen nothing even close to personal abuse | | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:56 - Feb 20 with 1665 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:27 - Feb 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Some of the stuff I've seen aimed at Hirst on socials is pretty pathetic tbh. Say he isn't playing well, fine but its overstepped the mark a bit.
Ive found our support to be pretty poor this season. Been a few decent away atmospheres. But been pretty poor at home I think. |
Quite often it is sad acts that are looking for a cheap dopamine hit from likes on social media. It's pathetic from younger supporters but even more so from men in their 40s (Bedsheet).
In the less egregious instances, it is what was only hot-headed in the moment 'behind closed doors' pub conversation with your mates after a game 20 odd years ago playing out online/publicly on a bigger scale. [Post edited 20 Feb 8:57]
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:58 - Feb 20 with 1640 views | JakeITFC |
Na, people have been on his back big time for a while in the ground too. It's really not on and has only helped to compound a poor run of form into something that feels a bit more terminal. |  | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:58 - Feb 20 with 1620 views | FrimleyBlue |
Think it depends on the context
My stupid reply to the news story recently. Using the words you/your etc that was abusive.
Some responses to things on x like hed probably miss blowing out the candles. Isn't abusive but pointless. Some are people having a laugh so whilst stupid they arent abusive. But if you is used thats when its abusive as its directive. |  |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:06 - Feb 20 with 1577 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 04:13 - Feb 20 by Illinoisblue |
I see the whopper who made the video compilation of Hirst misses deleted his post from Twitter. Maybe for a brief second he realized what a c***y thing to do that was. Or not. Fans seem angry this season. We have the best form over last 20 games but it doesn’t feel like it to a lot of fans. Assume a combination of favorite players no longer here, an expectation we should win every game, and, most importantly, people now have no patience, want the moon on a stick and want it yesterday, and are generally whiny little bitches (in life, not just football). |
I agree. One think not mentioned is the entitlement that the money has brought and the over analysis of it being spent, alongside expecting it to go as far as when we bought Matt Holland or Marcus Stewart. People seem to see it as their money and it being wasted if every new player isn't playing like Messi within days of arriving.
Yes the money should have us in a good position, but we pretty much are in a good position, certain people just seem to think that position should be promotion by March and playing like Brazil in the 70s. |  | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:07 - Feb 20 with 1584 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
Away at Sheff Utd a group near me started the Azon chant. Not because he was on the pitch or warming up but because Hirst had made a mistake. It’s not helpful. |  |
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:20 - Feb 20 with 1504 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 07:36 - Feb 20 by RobTheMonk |
Hirst looks like he has footballing yips at the moment.
Desperately needs a goal which can hopefully bring his confidence back. |
Until this week, Haji Wright was the worst striker in the division... | | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:24 - Feb 20 with 1480 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 04:23 - Feb 20 by Benters |
Even the best strikers go through goal droughts time to time.Unfortunately I only listen now on Radio Suffolk and you can hear the abuse he sometimes gets.
I believe We were favourites for the top position and I guess people take that as gospel.
Getting back to the atmosphere’ again even the top clubs are quiet nowadays.
Modern football is crap. [Post edited 20 Feb 4:52]
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Hirst will do a Shearer pre/in Euro 96.
Don't think Shearer had scored for 10 or more games and talk of dropping him, but then he turned up bang on time. |  | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:38 - Feb 20 with 1425 views | ashtonscoffeecup |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:24 - Feb 20 by ElderGrizzly |
Hirst will do a Shearer pre/in Euro 96.
Don't think Shearer had scored for 10 or more games and talk of dropping him, but then he turned up bang on time. |
as has been said many a times Hirst isnt about goals, that is not the main issue with him this season for me.
he has 1 assist to his name in 26 games (if a strikers role isnt to score - as daft as that sounds - then surely he should be assisting?)
his touch has been getting worse, nothing stays under his control
not winning aerial battles
doesnt anticipate the flight of the ball
fallen over his own feet
gets into a childish wrestling battle with the CB as opposed to concentrating on all the above
he looks absolutely lost to me. not getting in some support/help in Jan is something i just cant get my head around from the club | | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:43 - Feb 20 with 1402 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:38 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
as has been said many a times Hirst isnt about goals, that is not the main issue with him this season for me.
he has 1 assist to his name in 26 games (if a strikers role isnt to score - as daft as that sounds - then surely he should be assisting?)
his touch has been getting worse, nothing stays under his control
not winning aerial battles
doesnt anticipate the flight of the ball
fallen over his own feet
gets into a childish wrestling battle with the CB as opposed to concentrating on all the above
he looks absolutely lost to me. not getting in some support/help in Jan is something i just cant get my head around from the club |
I'm not disagreeing with the thrust of that, but I don't think it's as simple as saying if no goals he should have assists registering. He's not even that type and that's not how we play either. He's a focal point to get the team up the pitch, hold the ball, release to the wings and the attackers. Not a final flick through or setting up a second striker. Hence our 'wingers' both being in double figures. It's all part of the tricky reasoning. Either way he's very far off his best, which he'd probably admit. | | | |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:46 - Feb 20 with 1384 views | Dubtractor |
| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:38 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup |
as has been said many a times Hirst isnt about goals, that is not the main issue with him this season for me.
he has 1 assist to his name in 26 games (if a strikers role isnt to score - as daft as that sounds - then surely he should be assisting?)
his touch has been getting worse, nothing stays under his control
not winning aerial battles
doesnt anticipate the flight of the ball
fallen over his own feet
gets into a childish wrestling battle with the CB as opposed to concentrating on all the above
he looks absolutely lost to me. not getting in some support/help in Jan is something i just cant get my head around from the club |
I disagree with your views on what constitutes abuse, but I fully agree with the following statement.
"he looks absolutely lost to me. not getting in some support/help in Jan is something i just cant get my head around from the club"
He is having a rotten season, but some of the stuff from our support is at a level I've not heard since Scowcroft was here and Burley picked him ahead of Mathie. [Post edited 20 Feb 9:47]
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| Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 09:48 - Feb 20 with 1362 views | billlm |
You know he's going to score Saturday, it's in the stars, |  | | |
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