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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) 15:32 - Feb 20 with 2471 viewsNthQldITFC


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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:12 - Feb 20 with 450 viewsStokieBlue

So this is going to get messy.

Companies have already started asking for their money back and they are on a good legal footing with that apparently.

Money which has probably already been spent I imagine.

SB
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:12 - Feb 20 with 442 viewsMercian

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 16:21 - Feb 20 by blueislander

But having voted against him they won’t be in their jobs for much longer


He cannot remove them
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:13 - Feb 20 with 439 viewsElderGrizzly

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:12 - Feb 20 by StokieBlue

So this is going to get messy.

Companies have already started asking for their money back and they are on a good legal footing with that apparently.

Money which has probably already been spent I imagine.

SB


*Money that has already been filtered to Trump, his family and donors

Press conference at 5:45pm where he'll lie repeatedly and then probably fall asleep
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:18 - Feb 20 with 425 viewsStokieBlue

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:13 - Feb 20 by ElderGrizzly

*Money that has already been filtered to Trump, his family and donors

Press conference at 5:45pm where he'll lie repeatedly and then probably fall asleep


I've been told today on here today that you can't call them lies.

Just a difference of opinion.

State of the world.

SB
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:20 - Feb 20 with 409 viewslowhouseblue

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:18 - Feb 20 by StokieBlue

I've been told today on here today that you can't call them lies.

Just a difference of opinion.

State of the world.

SB


you were told that being able to tell the difference between a lie and a different opinion is a very important intellectual skill that people tend to lose when they think their own views are unchallengeable.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:20 - Feb 20 with 412 viewsblueislander

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 16:36 - Feb 20 by ElderGrizzly

They have jobs for life. They can't be removed on the whim of a President
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They could resign.
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:24 - Feb 20 with 400 viewsStokieBlue

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:20 - Feb 20 by lowhouseblue

you were told that being able to tell the difference between a lie and a different opinion is a very important intellectual skill that people tend to lose when they think their own views are unchallengeable.


That's a Trumpesque rewriting of what happened.

Well done.

SB
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:25 - Feb 20 with 391 viewsMullet

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:12 - Feb 20 by Mercian

He cannot remove them


He might pay someone else to though.

On a serious, less bleak note, could this be the Yanks waking up to how close they've tilted towards fascism?

Maybe Andrew's arrest and Starmer standing up to Trump has emboldened a few?

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:28 - Feb 20 with 370 viewslowhouseblue

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:24 - Feb 20 by StokieBlue

That's a Trumpesque rewriting of what happened.

Well done.

SB


perhaps your fingers really are in your ears?

and well done you as well.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:32 - Feb 20 with 362 viewsGlasgowBlue

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:11 - Feb 20 by ElderGrizzly

Yep, but they don't. Normally though there isn't a President trying to be a Dictator.

The constitution wasn't built for a Trump style leader and it shows.


The import word in your first sentence being "trying". This, plus the climbdown over Greenland reinforces the belief that the USA is still a functioning democracy. As much as Tump wishes it wasn't.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:32 - Feb 20 with 367 viewsDJR

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 16:38 - Feb 20 by DJR

There is though something wrong with a system which has meant that it has taken so long for this judgment to be reached.

In a properly functioning constitution, this verdict should have been reached before the tariffs came into force.

In the meantime, Trump has reeked havoc on the rest of world, although I have a feeling there may be some tariffs he has imposed which are not affected by this judgment.
[Post edited 20 Feb 16:42]


Building on my last paragraph.

Stephan Becker – leading international trade attorney at Pillsbury in Washington DC – underscores that while today’s decision invalidates many of the tariffs under IEEPA, other levies have been imposed under other legal authorities that expressly grant Donald Trump the ability to do so. He notes that these include Section 232 of the 1962 Trade Expansion Act and Section 301 of the 1974 Trade Act.

The former authorizes the imposition of tariffs for national security reasons, while the latter allows duties to compel other countries to change policies unfair to US exports.

“Those existing tariffs will not be affected by the Court’s decision. To put it simply, tariffs will remain a central element of the administration’s foreign policy even after today’s judgment,” Becker said.



Basil Woodd-Walker, disputes and investigations partner at global law firm Simmons & Simmon said he can just switch focus from the blanket “liberation day” reciprocal tariffs he opposed on dozens of countries to sectoral tariffs.

“Most commentators had expected the supreme court to strike down Trump’s IEEPA tariffs. But President Trump has made it clear that he is not going to abandon his international trade policy, and will find other ways to implement it,” he said. “The US administration may pivot to other tariff regimes or trade barriers to replace the lost income.”
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:37 - Feb 20 with 348 viewsElderGrizzly

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:32 - Feb 20 by GlasgowBlue

The import word in your first sentence being "trying". This, plus the climbdown over Greenland reinforces the belief that the USA is still a functioning democracy. As much as Tump wishes it wasn't.


It’s on life support i’d say.

And entirely corrupt if this is true

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:48 - Feb 20 with 320 viewsGlasgowBlue

A good emergency pod from the Rest Is Politics USA.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:50 - Feb 20 with 321 viewsthecheek

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 18:13 - Feb 20 with 288 viewsredrickstuhaart

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 16:51 - Feb 20 by MattinLondon

In layman’s language - how does the Supreme Court work over there? I’ve read about conservative judges being appointed etc etc. is that the same over here?

How on earth in a country where they think of themselves the land of the free can one person have the power to appoint who they please? Or is that the same here?


Its not the same here. We have an independent commission which seeks to appoint on merit, with a largely transparent process, and proper separation of powers.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 18:29 - Feb 20 with 273 viewsStokieBlue

He's taking it well then.

SB
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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 18:29 - Feb 20 with 270 viewsGuthrum

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:25 - Feb 20 by Mullet

He might pay someone else to though.

On a serious, less bleak note, could this be the Yanks waking up to how close they've tilted towards fascism?

Maybe Andrew's arrest and Starmer standing up to Trump has emboldened a few?


Tho it's worth noting the SC hasn't said tariffs are wrong per se, just that Trump was exceeding the limits of the law he used to impose them. It's a technical denial, not one on principle.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 18:34 - Feb 20 with 255 viewsGlasgowBlue

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:20 - Feb 20 by blueislander

They could resign.


Yes. Something Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have done before Trump was elected and given Obama the chance to appoint another democrat.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:01 - Feb 20 with 237 viewsredrickstuhaart

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 18:29 - Feb 20 by StokieBlue

He's taking it well then.

SB


The way in which he has just undermined the Supreme Court and politicised it is utterly disgraceful.

Mind you, we have seen similar here.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:13 - Feb 20 with 208 viewsMullet

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 18:29 - Feb 20 by Guthrum

Tho it's worth noting the SC hasn't said tariffs are wrong per se, just that Trump was exceeding the limits of the law he used to impose them. It's a technical denial, not one on principle.


First you blank me at Wrexham now this.....

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:32 - Feb 20 with 177 viewsPinewoodblue

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:01 - Feb 20 by redrickstuhaart

The way in which he has just undermined the Supreme Court and politicised it is utterly disgraceful.

Mind you, we have seen similar here.


Presumably he just increases the number of Supreme Court judges.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:36 - Feb 20 with 173 viewsNthQldITFC

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:20 - Feb 20 by lowhouseblue

you were told that being able to tell the difference between a lie and a different opinion is a very important intellectual skill that people tend to lose when they think their own views are unchallengeable.


I don't think that's true.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:38 - Feb 20 with 167 viewsNthQldITFC

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 17:20 - Feb 20 by blueislander

They could resign.


Tr*mp could have had Russian-style windows fitted in Tr*mp Towers, if you know what I mean.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:42 - Feb 20 with 163 viewsGuthrum

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 19:13 - Feb 20 by Mullet

First you blank me at Wrexham now this.....


I just have little faith in the conservative SC judges genuinely opposing Trump, rather than tinkering on technicalities.

Also, this is only one win in what is likely to be a long and vicious fight.

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Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n on 20:13 - Feb 20 with 138 viewsElderGrizzly

Losing 6-3 at home with a bent ref! Hahaha! (n/t) on 18:29 - Feb 20 by Guthrum

Tho it's worth noting the SC hasn't said tariffs are wrong per se, just that Trump was exceeding the limits of the law he used to impose them. It's a technical denial, not one on principle.


He’s taken it as well as we all expected

https://www.theguardian.com/us

Not quite “enemies of the people”, but he has accused the judges who ruled against him as “a disgrace to the nation”

“They’re just being fools and lapdogs for the Rinos [Republicans in name only] and the radical left Democrats, and not that they should have anything at all to do with it,” Trump said. “They’re very unpatriotic and disloyal to our constitution.”

Referring to Barrett and Gorsuch, he described them as “an embarrassment to their families” and said they were “barely” invited to the State of the Union address next week.

And he praised those 3 judges who supported him. Good judges, remember who put you here..

Finally saying he’ll impose even more tariffs than he already had. A petulant child.

https://www.theguardian.com/us
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