| UK Deportation Command on 11:33 - Feb 23 with 1321 views | MattinLondon |
Sounds like a vote winner to their racist supporters. |  | |  |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:37 - Feb 23 with 1299 views | BlueBadger |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:33 - Feb 23 by MattinLondon |
Sounds like a vote winner to their racist supporters. |
[Redacted] will be along in a minute to applaud the legalised deportation of people who've been working and paying tax in the UK for significant chunks of their lives. People who have, for example, been employed by the NHS to treat them when they're ill. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 11:41 - Feb 23 with 1277 views | DJR |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:33 - Feb 23 by MattinLondon |
Sounds like a vote winner to their racist supporters. |
A few of the top-rated comment on Mailonline
Labour chairman Anna Turley hit back, saying: 'Britain is a proud, tolerant and diverse nation'..Err no we are not..not any more..Detain..Deport.
Ohhhh please do it. Someone needs to stand up for Britain.
Please god…can’t come soon enough
Sounds like an excellent plan
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| UK Deportation Command on 11:47 - Feb 23 with 1253 views | DJR |
Labour have been boasting about how many they are deporting but it's a fool's errand and never enough for Reform supporters. | | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:52 - Feb 23 with 1243 views | J2BLUE |
Genuine question...so while maybe ignorant, i'm not trying to be offensive and certainly not posting in support of Reform.
If illegal immigrants are so easy to find, why are they still here? Are Reform using a very loose definition including people who haven't had asylum claims processed? Are they just bullsh1tting about what they would do? Or have previous governments just ignored it?
I always assumed we didn't actually know how many people were here illegally so genuine question. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 12:01 - Feb 23 with 1170 views | eireblue |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:52 - Feb 23 by J2BLUE |
Genuine question...so while maybe ignorant, i'm not trying to be offensive and certainly not posting in support of Reform.
If illegal immigrants are so easy to find, why are they still here? Are Reform using a very loose definition including people who haven't had asylum claims processed? Are they just bullsh1tting about what they would do? Or have previous governments just ignored it?
I always assumed we didn't actually know how many people were here illegally so genuine question. |
They are proposing to deport people that are currently here legally, in work, paying taxes, and have demonstrated, Good Character, Passed the Life in U.K. test, and have English Language proficiency. |  | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:05 - Feb 23 with 1144 views | EdwardStone |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:01 - Feb 23 by eireblue |
They are proposing to deport people that are currently here legally, in work, paying taxes, and have demonstrated, Good Character, Passed the Life in U.K. test, and have English Language proficiency. |
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Zia Yusuf and his family were in manacles and on the first plane out? |  | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 with 1135 views | DJR |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:52 - Feb 23 by J2BLUE |
Genuine question...so while maybe ignorant, i'm not trying to be offensive and certainly not posting in support of Reform.
If illegal immigrants are so easy to find, why are they still here? Are Reform using a very loose definition including people who haven't had asylum claims processed? Are they just bullsh1tting about what they would do? Or have previous governments just ignored it?
I always assumed we didn't actually know how many people were here illegally so genuine question. |
The first paragraph talks about terminating the status of those with indefinite leave to remain.
Such people are here legally, have the right to live in this country indefinitely and, so far as I am aware, can in due course obtain British citizenship.
Terminating it presumably means there is scope for deporting hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
And where will it stop after that?
My daughter's best friend is a British citizen but she is not the right "colour" or religion, so she fears what might happend to her.
And if we withdraw from the ECHR will there be sufficient checks in place to prevent this. [Post edited 23 Feb 12:11]
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| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 with 1129 views | MattinLondon |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:41 - Feb 23 by DJR |
A few of the top-rated comment on Mailonline
Labour chairman Anna Turley hit back, saying: 'Britain is a proud, tolerant and diverse nation'..Err no we are not..not any more..Detain..Deport.
Ohhhh please do it. Someone needs to stand up for Britain.
Please god…can’t come soon enough
Sounds like an excellent plan
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You know when Ipswich lose and the usual suspects seemingly get a massive hard-on from us losing? The Daily Mail and Reform supporters do the same in putting the country down - most are trolls, traitors or imbeciles. | | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 with 1126 views | J2BLUE |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:01 - Feb 23 by eireblue |
They are proposing to deport people that are currently here legally, in work, paying taxes, and have demonstrated, Good Character, Passed the Life in U.K. test, and have English Language proficiency. |
Yes, I got that, but specifically on the bit about illegal immigrants.
It says:
Yusuf will say in a speech that Reform would leave the European convention on human rights (ECHR) and put a legal duty on the home secretary to remove illegal migrants.
He will promise to create a new agency – UK Deportation Command – with the capacity to detain 24,000 migrants at a time and deport up to 288,000 annually on five flights a day.
I am wondering where this is complete BS, whether they are using a very loose definition of illegal migrants or whether previous governments have ignored it. It's Reform so I am expecting a combination of 1 and 2. | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 12:11 - Feb 23 with 1097 views | J2BLUE |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 by DJR |
The first paragraph talks about terminating the status of those with indefinite leave to remain.
Such people are here legally, have the right to live in this country indefinitely and, so far as I am aware, can in due course obtain British citizenship.
Terminating it presumably means there is scope for deporting hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
And where will it stop after that?
My daughter's best friend is a British citizen but she is not the right "colour" or religion, so she fears what might happend to her.
And if we withdraw from the ECHR will there be sufficient checks in place to prevent this. [Post edited 23 Feb 12:11]
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Thank you. It's obvious now you have said it but that was the piece I was missing.
That makes much more sense. | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 12:19 - Feb 23 with 1059 views | DJR |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:11 - Feb 23 by J2BLUE |
Thank you. It's obvious now you have said it but that was the piece I was missing.
That makes much more sense. |
Having said what I said (and I didn't read the whole article) I have come across this from what is probably the most authoritative body when it comes to migration.
https://migrationobservatory.o
It begins with this.
There are four main ways in which a person can enter the unauthorised resident population in the UK:
Entering the UK on a visa and overstay (including in cases where residence permission is cancelled due to a criminal conviction).
Entering the UK without authorisation or through deception, such as using forged documents.
Not leaving the country after an asylum application has been rejected and all rights of appeal exhausted.
Being born in the UK to parents who are unauthorised migrants, because the UK does not have birth-right citizenship.
But Reform would presumably treat those awaiting an asylum application decision as "illegal" having left the Refugee Convention.
All in all what they propose is very scary from a rule of law point of view and will lead to all the sorts of injustices that are currently happening in the US.
But Reform's supporters will love it. [Post edited 23 Feb 12:26]
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| UK Deportation Command on 12:23 - Feb 23 with 1036 views | PhilTWTD |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 by DJR |
The first paragraph talks about terminating the status of those with indefinite leave to remain.
Such people are here legally, have the right to live in this country indefinitely and, so far as I am aware, can in due course obtain British citizenship.
Terminating it presumably means there is scope for deporting hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
And where will it stop after that?
My daughter's best friend is a British citizen but she is not the right "colour" or religion, so she fears what might happend to her.
And if we withdraw from the ECHR will there be sufficient checks in place to prevent this. [Post edited 23 Feb 12:11]
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Janoi is another whose status would be terminated. He's lived here since he was eight. |  | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:30 - Feb 23 with 967 views | DJR |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:23 - Feb 23 by PhilTWTD |
Janoi is another whose status would be terminated. He's lived here since he was eight. |
It makes me wonder whether they will even try to unpick the rights of EU citizens under the Brexit agreement, given how much they despise the EU.
And don't forget that for some countries (such as Germany) it is only possible to have one citizenship, so acquiring British citizenship as a safeguard would make it very difficult for them to return to Germany, [Post edited 23 Feb 12:31]
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| UK Deportation Command on 12:56 - Feb 23 with 870 views | Plums |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 by DJR |
The first paragraph talks about terminating the status of those with indefinite leave to remain.
Such people are here legally, have the right to live in this country indefinitely and, so far as I am aware, can in due course obtain British citizenship.
Terminating it presumably means there is scope for deporting hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
And where will it stop after that?
My daughter's best friend is a British citizen but she is not the right "colour" or religion, so she fears what might happend to her.
And if we withdraw from the ECHR will there be sufficient checks in place to prevent this. [Post edited 23 Feb 12:11]
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My sister is a naturalised citizen after being born in a British military hospital overseas. She is also deeply concerned about what her status could end up being under these loonies.
One of my friends heard Yusuf speak at an event last year. He described it as the most menacing, malevolent experience of his life.
These are not good people and they should be nowhere near the country's legislature or finances. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 13:15 - Feb 23 with 783 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
But Reform don't seriously have a chance of actually getting in..... Right?
If they do then I'll definitely be finding a way to leave the UK. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 13:19 - Feb 23 with 753 views | Swansea_Blue |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:52 - Feb 23 by J2BLUE |
Genuine question...so while maybe ignorant, i'm not trying to be offensive and certainly not posting in support of Reform.
If illegal immigrants are so easy to find, why are they still here? Are Reform using a very loose definition including people who haven't had asylum claims processed? Are they just bullsh1tting about what they would do? Or have previous governments just ignored it?
I always assumed we didn't actually know how many people were here illegally so genuine question. |
That would be a good question to put to Reform. Where and how are these people going to be found? It sounds like that’s what this copy of ICE is about and they be raising suspect work places, picking up people on the streets who look foreign and doing what ICE do.
You’re right: don’t have a particularly good handle on the number of people who are undocumented. Reform are obviously gaslighting, because an immigrant here without the correct documents/approvals can’t access benefits for a start. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 13:32 - Feb 23 with 679 views | eireblue |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 by J2BLUE |
Yes, I got that, but specifically on the bit about illegal immigrants.
It says:
Yusuf will say in a speech that Reform would leave the European convention on human rights (ECHR) and put a legal duty on the home secretary to remove illegal migrants.
He will promise to create a new agency – UK Deportation Command – with the capacity to detain 24,000 migrants at a time and deport up to 288,000 annually on five flights a day.
I am wondering where this is complete BS, whether they are using a very loose definition of illegal migrants or whether previous governments have ignored it. It's Reform so I am expecting a combination of 1 and 2. |
Yep, as others have said, Reform will decide who is illegal, e.g. all the People from Hong Kong, that migrated to Britain as part of what Reform like to call “the Boris Wave”, could be working paying taxes, but…..and….
By removing the ECHR, there will be no legal protections. [Post edited 23 Feb 13:38]
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| UK Deportation Command on 13:35 - Feb 23 with 663 views | tractordownsouth |
The ICE stuff is a mis-step from Reform. It will appeal to their 15% core vote but not sure the kind of swing voter they need to win over to get into government is going to be massively keen on replicating the scenes of violence we've seen in the US recently. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 13:35 - Feb 23 with 650 views | bluelagos |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 by J2BLUE |
Yes, I got that, but specifically on the bit about illegal immigrants.
It says:
Yusuf will say in a speech that Reform would leave the European convention on human rights (ECHR) and put a legal duty on the home secretary to remove illegal migrants.
He will promise to create a new agency – UK Deportation Command – with the capacity to detain 24,000 migrants at a time and deport up to 288,000 annually on five flights a day.
I am wondering where this is complete BS, whether they are using a very loose definition of illegal migrants or whether previous governments have ignored it. It's Reform so I am expecting a combination of 1 and 2. |
Clearly an element of BS as the question of where do you deport people to is not easy if they come from a place like Afghanistan. With no flights there and that likely to remain the case, I struggle to see an easy answer.
If there was one, Braverman, Patel and Jenwick would've done it with glee |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 13:44 - Feb 23 with 582 views | eireblue |
| UK Deportation Command on 13:35 - Feb 23 by bluelagos |
Clearly an element of BS as the question of where do you deport people to is not easy if they come from a place like Afghanistan. With no flights there and that likely to remain the case, I struggle to see an easy answer.
If there was one, Braverman, Patel and Jenwick would've done it with glee |
Easy, they we will say, if people refuse to accept, we will stop sending aid, bump up tariffs, refuse entry to their citizens…it doesn’t need to work, just needs enough people to believe it.
Jeez, the people that post Brexit, were comfortable telling others “to go back home” will be delighted. | | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 14:05 - Feb 23 with 515 views | DJR |
| UK Deportation Command on 13:35 - Feb 23 by bluelagos |
Clearly an element of BS as the question of where do you deport people to is not easy if they come from a place like Afghanistan. With no flights there and that likely to remain the case, I struggle to see an easy answer.
If there was one, Braverman, Patel and Jenwick would've done it with glee |
There will be vast numbers of people in this country legally here and with a nationality other than British, so I am not sure it will be difficult in their case.
And take this example of someone born in the UK who even had British citizenship.
"In 2019, UK Home Secretary Sajid Javid announced that he had made an order depriving Begum of British citizenship. Under international law, the UK government could not deprive her of British citizenship if such deprivation would leave her stateless. However, the UK government contended that Begum was a dual national, also holding citizenship of Bangladesh, and was not therefore made stateless by the decision."
I always thought that it was a dangerous precedent. [Post edited 23 Feb 14:14]
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| UK Deportation Command on 14:13 - Feb 23 with 498 views | BlueBadger |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:09 - Feb 23 by MattinLondon |
You know when Ipswich lose and the usual suspects seemingly get a massive hard-on from us losing? The Daily Mail and Reform supporters do the same in putting the country down - most are trolls, traitors or imbeciles. |
'Reformists are the politics equivalent of Norwich fans' seems a bit harsh... | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 14:13 - Feb 23 with 499 views | Swansea_Blue |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:05 - Feb 23 by EdwardStone |
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Zia Yusuf and his family were in manacles and on the first plane out? |
They'd be targets under some of these oddballs in the Reform/Restore camps. I wonder if Yusef ties himself up in knots over his Scottish nationality like Braverman did when she said she couldn't be English. They're crackers. | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 14:38 - Feb 23 with 443 views | BlueBadger |
| UK Deportation Command on 11:47 - Feb 23 by DJR |
Labour have been boasting about how many they are deporting but it's a fool's errand and never enough for Reform supporters. |
The 'Blue Passports and No Foreigners' crowd have only seen one of those things happen in the past decade. | |
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