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Is it tonight hmm a must win? 10:55 - Mar 10 with 1866 viewsBenters

Surely we will stuff Stoke City.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 15:29 - Mar 10 with 471 views_CliveBaker_

Is it tonight hmm a must win? (n/t) on 15:28 - Mar 10 by alial

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On that basis tonight is a must win, as not winning would leave 2nd out of our own hands?
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 15:29 - Mar 10 with 468 viewsBenters

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 15:00 - Mar 10 by Steve_M

It's a must win in respect of the fact that [redacted] has probably got about five drafts of 1,500+ word posts to bore everyone with tomorrow if we don't win.


Ha! Nice one Steve.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 16:12 - Mar 10 with 400 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

It's not a 'must win' until we, you know, must win.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 16:25 - Mar 10 with 379 viewsGreenEye

It's about time we saw the team that ripped Coventry apart.

We've been too pedestrian albeit more solid at the back.

I get frustrated when we play a ball to the winger's feet instead of 10 feet in front
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 16:28 - Mar 10 with 364 viewsCobboldCrusty

Must admit I find people's overly literal interpretation of the phrase 'must-win' a little bit tedious.

Fair enough if you don't like the phrase at all but if it's a notion you're willing to entertain at all, then I am afraid we are surely getting into must-win territory here. That is if we're talking about autos.

Stoke are an average team, one of the easier games we have left in a promotion race in which we are now playing catch-up, and the teams above us are not dropping points at the moment.
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 17:11 - Mar 10 with 320 viewsBlue_Heath

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 11:08 - Mar 10 by Herbivore

Not sure we'll stuff them. Despite their poor form they've got the third best defensive record in the Championship so they don't really get stuffed. It's a game we should win and if other results go against us then failing to win would be a set back. Don't go in for all this must win stuff though.


Has your account been hacked? unusual dose of realism from you there, glad you made it to the real world :-)

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 17:20 - Mar 10 with 306 viewsPaul

My worry is that Stoke seems to be another ground that we've never won at (since they moved to whatever it is called now).
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 17:24 - Mar 10 with 290 viewssquiz

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 16:25 - Mar 10 by GreenEye

It's about time we saw the team that ripped Coventry apart.

We've been too pedestrian albeit more solid at the back.

I get frustrated when we play a ball to the winger's feet instead of 10 feet in front


We're at the stage where we need to go for it. Think we've seen Mckenna acknowledge that with some of the subs in the past couple of games. Which worked against Hull, but not so much Leicester.

May as well chuck everything at it now, and then if we aren't close with 5 games to go then we can look to the playoffs. Sunderland were in that position last year. They lost their last 5 games of the season and focussed on the playoffs, which worked for them.
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 17:46 - Mar 10 with 267 viewsSwansea_Blue

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 12:01 - Mar 10 by Herbivore

Eight wins, assuming the rest are defeats, would see us on 88 points which should be enough but will be cutting it a little fine.


The trouble is all those away games. We’ve only won 6/16 away so far, so we have to improve our away form to stand a chance. We need a minimum of 4 more wins and maybe 5 or 6 from those 7 away games. Southampton and Norwich look very difficult, so on paper we need to be winning the rest starting with tonight. If we don’t win tonight that makes things very hard unless teams around us start to have wobbles again. I suspect the way the fixtures shave landed with a glut of away games is going to be the kicker than means we miss out on top two, but who knows.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:00 - Mar 10 with 243 viewsGlasgowBlue

They all our with so few games remaining. Especially with Boro in good away form playing Charlton tomorrow night.

That said, we thought Watford, Boro nd Hull were must win games in our run in during the promotion season. But Leeds imploded and we didn't need to win those games.

edit. Interesting stat on the second tier podcast. Last season Burnley went 33 games unbeaten. Leeds went something like 16. The best we have managed all season is six unbeaten. We've also only been in the top to for one match week all season. I accept there have been mitigating circumstances with th postponed game but we aren't looking like a top two side.
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:06 - Mar 10 with 230 viewssquiz

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:00 - Mar 10 by GlasgowBlue

They all our with so few games remaining. Especially with Boro in good away form playing Charlton tomorrow night.

That said, we thought Watford, Boro nd Hull were must win games in our run in during the promotion season. But Leeds imploded and we didn't need to win those games.

edit. Interesting stat on the second tier podcast. Last season Burnley went 33 games unbeaten. Leeds went something like 16. The best we have managed all season is six unbeaten. We've also only been in the top to for one match week all season. I accept there have been mitigating circumstances with th postponed game but we aren't looking like a top two side.
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I listened to that. They were very critical of us which I'm not sure is 100% warranted but I can see where they are coming from. They also said promotion was out of our hands which is wrong as we have to play Boro.
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:08 - Mar 10 with 222 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:06 - Mar 10 by squiz

I listened to that. They were very critical of us which I'm not sure is 100% warranted but I can see where they are coming from. They also said promotion was out of our hands which is wrong as we have to play Boro.


I don't recall hearing that. They did say it was in Boro's hands which is true. But it's also in ours.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:15 - Mar 10 with 206 viewssquiz

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:08 - Mar 10 by GlasgowBlue

I don't recall hearing that. They did say it was in Boro's hands which is true. But it's also in ours.


Maybe it was NTT20. Getting my podcasts muddled up
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:18 - Mar 10 with 194 viewsVic

Yes, pretty much if we hope to get 2nd.

Otherwise No.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:23 - Mar 10 with 179 viewsblueoutlook

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 11:54 - Mar 10 by SuffolkPunchFC

Must win - no, we're not near that point yet.

However, a draw or a loss will put us in a less favourable position if Boro and/ or Millwall win. We need to (and of course will) go for a win.


Every game is a must win,or there is no point in playing at all. My old Forman, who played to good non league standard into his forties used to hate pre season friendlies, he always said no such thing as a friendly and you WIN every game ! He did a lot of times too,hard as blOOdy nails,not many went past him at the back where he played. Played for Sudbury Town years back.
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:27 - Mar 10 with 165 viewspositivity

nope, we could win it and still not finish top 2.

we could lose it and still finish top.

it would be very nice to win though!

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:28 - Mar 10 with 162 viewspositivity

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:23 - Mar 10 by blueoutlook

Every game is a must win,or there is no point in playing at all. My old Forman, who played to good non league standard into his forties used to hate pre season friendlies, he always said no such thing as a friendly and you WIN every game ! He did a lot of times too,hard as blOOdy nails,not many went past him at the back where he played. Played for Sudbury Town years back.


he might have made it at a higher level if he had better perspective!

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:32 - Mar 10 with 145 viewsBackToRussia

I am led to believe the club will be wound up if we fail to win tonight, yes.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:39 - Mar 10 with 133 viewsBouncebackIpswich

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 16:12 - Mar 10 by The_Flashing_Smile

It's not a 'must win' until we, you know, must win.


Must win games are not a literal concept as you're suggesting and its an unrealistic oversimplification to look at it that way. If you're going to wait until you're at the point of needing to win to mathematically keep your hopes alive then realistically, they're already over. Wolves could claim they're very much in the fight to stay up as they can win every remaining game and manage it but you won't find a single person Wolves fan or otherwise thinking they even have a 0.1% chance of staying up.

Whilst it's debatable tonight's game is must win, there's a big argument for it being so. We're playing a mid table side with very little to play for with the context of losing or drawing leaving us 4 or 5 points behind Boro with an extremely difficult set of games to come in April. Which if they beat Charlton then becomes 7 or 8 and even with a game in hand starts to feel they are out of sight.

Got to be 6 pts from the next 2 games for me to at least stay in touch with Boro or ideally overhaul them to give some much needed margin for error in tough games like Southampton and Norwich. I think we'll do it 🤞
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 19:47 - Mar 10 with 70 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 18:23 - Mar 10 by blueoutlook

Every game is a must win,or there is no point in playing at all. My old Forman, who played to good non league standard into his forties used to hate pre season friendlies, he always said no such thing as a friendly and you WIN every game ! He did a lot of times too,hard as blOOdy nails,not many went past him at the back where he played. Played for Sudbury Town years back.


You misunderstand the difference between ‘must win’ and ‘always play to win’.
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 19:49 - Mar 10 with 65 viewsDavoIPB

Stoke are not as bad as people are saying. Only lost by the odd goal in most games. Last minute to Coventry. Won't be easy. Have a bad feeling
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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 19:55 - Mar 10 with 54 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 19:49 - Mar 10 by DavoIPB

Stoke are not as bad as people are saying. Only lost by the odd goal in most games. Last minute to Coventry. Won't be easy. Have a bad feeling


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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 19:59 - Mar 10 with 48 viewsTheBoyBlue

It'll be really disappointing if we don't as they've barely got enough players to put a team out and are on a terrible run of form.

However, like any dropped points with still so many games to go it won't be disastrous.

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Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 20:00 - Mar 10 with 44 viewsTheBoyBlue

Is it tonight hmm a must win? on 13:58 - Mar 10 by Illinoisblue

Blades, QPR, Swansea…


Coventry.

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