| EADT demanding an apology 11:40 - Mar 26 with 6239 views | Macedonian_Gerrard | measured piece from the EADT https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/2 think its by and large what most fans recognise is needed at this point especially as we've been hitting the national press for all the wrong reasons. your move mr. ashton...... |  | | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:47 - Mar 26 with 1176 views | Basuco |
| EADT demanding an apology on 11:51 - Mar 26 by FBI | I couldn't see it, either. They are more Kings Of Clickbait these days. Anyone subscribing able to copy-and-paste for the benefit of us peasants? |
Basically, Town are one club for all to enjoy, for 90 minutes during a game nothing else matters, we are all just Town football fans, politics is a very divisive subject regardless of which party is represented and should be avoided. I would add religion to politics as subjects to be avoided on here, pub or at a match, we should stick to Hurst or Azon, Palmer or Walton or best formation. I whole heartedly agree with everything in this EADT article on the subject. [Post edited 26 Mar 12:55]
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| EADT demanding an apology on 12:48 - Mar 26 with 1180 views | Dubtractor | As an aside, I'm assume that some posters on here will be writing to the EADT to point out that it's only 40 or so posters on here who are upset about this affair..... Also, the article does make clear that reform rocked up with a filming crew, and that it wasn't filmed on a phone on the sly, as some have been keen to suggest. [Post edited 26 Mar 12:51]
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| EADT demanding an apology on 12:48 - Mar 26 with 1159 views | Chris_ITFC |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:45 - Mar 26 by _CliveBaker_ | The irony being the manager of our Mens 1st team will continue to be more articulate, humble, principled and a stronger brand ambassador than anyone in the boardroom. As he has been from day 1. [Post edited 26 Mar 12:47]
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100%… but he will be seriously p*ssed off at the Club for putting him in this position, being grilled for their mistake, right in the middle of a promotion push. I suspect that will be what forces the Club’s hands to do something, e.g. an Ashton chat etc. |  |
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| It’s 27 actually…. on 12:49 - Mar 26 with 1151 views | Bloots |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:48 - Mar 26 by Dubtractor | As an aside, I'm assume that some posters on here will be writing to the EADT to point out that it's only 40 or so posters on here who are upset about this affair..... Also, the article does make clear that reform rocked up with a filming crew, and that it wasn't filmed on a phone on the sly, as some have been keen to suggest. [Post edited 26 Mar 12:51]
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| EADT demanding an apology on 12:50 - Mar 26 with 1143 views | BasingstokeBlue |
Thanks for that. |  |
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| EADT demanding an apology on 12:52 - Mar 26 with 1119 views | Illinoisblue |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:07 - Mar 26 by DanTheMan | It also suggests this isn't just going to go away. Sticking their head in the sand is not an option. And I doubt McKenna is very happy being put into memes with quotes like "Work will set you free". The club have brought this onto everyone and need to come out and show some proper contrition. |
And with it being international break the timing is the absolute worst for the club. This is going to rumble on and spill into the Brum game. Ashton fessing up and making a statement/apology would go some way to smoothing the waters. |  |
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| EADT demanding an apology on 12:55 - Mar 26 with 1086 views | Prominent_Blue |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:29 - Mar 26 by LegendofthePhoenix | It's a superb, well balanced and brave piece of journalism from Mark Heath, well done that man. In my professional life, I've had to be the investigating officer in a number of disciplinary cases. The overriding consideration is always that people make mistakes, we are human - but when you make a mistake, own it and apologise fully and mean it. Heathy has laid it out clear as day here. MA needs to take responsibility, apologise, and see if he can ride it out, because it's only getting worse by the hour. |
But if you don't agree you've made a mistake why apologise ? It's not getting worse by the hour but Mike Heath has decided to dredge it up again. Mark Ashton has my full support and we wouldn't be where we are today without him. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:00 - Mar 26 with 1038 views | Blueschev |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:55 - Mar 26 by Prominent_Blue | But if you don't agree you've made a mistake why apologise ? It's not getting worse by the hour but Mike Heath has decided to dredge it up again. Mark Ashton has my full support and we wouldn't be where we are today without him. |
The club is under no obligation to apologise, but they should know that by not acknowledging what an error of judgement this whole debacle is, they will be isolating a significant number of the fanbase, tarnishing the reputation of the club, and further emboldening the thankfully small yet increasing minority of racist supporters. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:03 - Mar 26 with 1010 views | Devereuxxx |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:55 - Mar 26 by Prominent_Blue | But if you don't agree you've made a mistake why apologise ? It's not getting worse by the hour but Mike Heath has decided to dredge it up again. Mark Ashton has my full support and we wouldn't be where we are today without him. |
You can look at this a different way - given that the club has been subject to criticism and derision from fans, the media, and even our closest rivals for allowing a political party to film a political broadcast in their stadium - would they do the same again if given the opportunity? I would wager the answer is no - which infers they made a mistake. If they are content with the attention the club has received since this aired, that's telling in itself. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:05 - Mar 26 with 983 views | CastroSito |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:55 - Mar 26 by Prominent_Blue | But if you don't agree you've made a mistake why apologise ? It's not getting worse by the hour but Mike Heath has decided to dredge it up again. Mark Ashton has my full support and we wouldn't be where we are today without him. |
Very true. If he'd been a bit brighter in the transfer market, we might be in the Premier League. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:06 - Mar 26 with 971 views | CrockerITFC |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:55 - Mar 26 by Prominent_Blue | But if you don't agree you've made a mistake why apologise ? It's not getting worse by the hour but Mike Heath has decided to dredge it up again. Mark Ashton has my full support and we wouldn't be where we are today without him. |
The season is done now anyway most likely. The only thing that can salvage it is an apology and a call for unity and to rally behind McKenna and the players |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:06 - Mar 26 with 980 views | J2BLUE | I think an apology would be the right thing to do but a lot of people are acting like they know what happened. The most widely held belief seems to be Ashton either invited them or signed off on it and allowed them to come in with that level of access and he's now sitting there stubbornly refusing to apologise. Those people want it to be true (1-2 have even said that) because they don't like him and want him out. We have zero evidence that actually happened though. People are falling over themselves to believe that but does it sound likely? You would think that behind the scenes most of the sponsors as well as the likes of Ed Sheeran's team are putting the pressure on. Are the owners ignoring this and letting Ashton have full control? Seems unlikely to me. There may well be an internal struggle between some of the owners who are pro Trump and therefore quite happy to let this go and other high ranking people/part owners who want to distance themselves as much as possible. There is, as far as I am aware, zero evidence of this being down to Ashton. If 51%+ of the owners are happy then what can he do? There's zero evidence for what i've said either and I am well aware of that but that doesn't mean we get to make something up to fill the gap. For all we know Ashton could be sitting at his desk with his head in his hands thinking how the hell do I get us out of this? Or he could be on the golf course laughing at the reaction. We just don't know. |  |
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| EADT demanding an apology on 13:07 - Mar 26 with 964 views | ElderGrizzly |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:44 - Mar 26 by itfcjoe | If Ashton had the balls he should sit in on the press conference and field any questions about it |
I guess the issue now is he potentially has to say both sorry and we lied in the press release. As someone pointed out again yesterday, Farage has doubled down and said he was invited. Who blinks first on trying to prove/disprove? |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:09 - Mar 26 with 948 views | ElderGrizzly |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:52 - Mar 26 by Illinoisblue | And with it being international break the timing is the absolute worst for the club. This is going to rumble on and spill into the Brum game. Ashton fessing up and making a statement/apology would go some way to smoothing the waters. |
Given Nick Ames' article yesterday, you'd imagine there is some apologising needed to the players too. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:12 - Mar 26 with 908 views | RonFearonsHair |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:07 - Mar 26 by DanTheMan | It also suggests this isn't just going to go away. Sticking their head in the sand is not an option. And I doubt McKenna is very happy being put into memes with quotes like "Work will set you free". The club have brought this onto everyone and need to come out and show some proper contrition. |
If he were to be considering his options this summer I hope this whole episode and the noise around it isn't what makes his final decision. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:14 - Mar 26 with 892 views | Blueschev |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:09 - Mar 26 by ElderGrizzly | Given Nick Ames' article yesterday, you'd imagine there is some apologising needed to the players too. |
It's a good job the players were not in the dressing room at the same time as Farage. Imagine how uncomfortable he'd have been with all of those foreign accents. It may have given him flashbacks to the train journeys that are now too dangerous for him to take. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:16 - Mar 26 with 853 views | ChiefXL |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:55 - Mar 26 by Prominent_Blue | But if you don't agree you've made a mistake why apologise ? It's not getting worse by the hour but Mike Heath has decided to dredge it up again. Mark Ashton has my full support and we wouldn't be where we are today without him. |
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| EADT demanding an apology on 13:18 - Mar 26 with 822 views | ElderGrizzly |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:06 - Mar 26 by J2BLUE | I think an apology would be the right thing to do but a lot of people are acting like they know what happened. The most widely held belief seems to be Ashton either invited them or signed off on it and allowed them to come in with that level of access and he's now sitting there stubbornly refusing to apologise. Those people want it to be true (1-2 have even said that) because they don't like him and want him out. We have zero evidence that actually happened though. People are falling over themselves to believe that but does it sound likely? You would think that behind the scenes most of the sponsors as well as the likes of Ed Sheeran's team are putting the pressure on. Are the owners ignoring this and letting Ashton have full control? Seems unlikely to me. There may well be an internal struggle between some of the owners who are pro Trump and therefore quite happy to let this go and other high ranking people/part owners who want to distance themselves as much as possible. There is, as far as I am aware, zero evidence of this being down to Ashton. If 51%+ of the owners are happy then what can he do? There's zero evidence for what i've said either and I am well aware of that but that doesn't mean we get to make something up to fill the gap. For all we know Ashton could be sitting at his desk with his head in his hands thinking how the hell do I get us out of this? Or he could be on the golf course laughing at the reaction. We just don't know. |
I think the key issue now is over naivety or intent. Farage says he was invited, the club said (initially) they weren't involved. They then dropped that from their official press release. You can't be politically agnostic and also invite Farage to the club. If it is all a lie from Farage, they should call it out, but if any of it is true and they do that, they know Farage will show his 'invitation' and whatever other evidence he has. It's all a mess of our own making. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:24 - Mar 26 with 756 views | m14_blue |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:06 - Mar 26 by J2BLUE | I think an apology would be the right thing to do but a lot of people are acting like they know what happened. The most widely held belief seems to be Ashton either invited them or signed off on it and allowed them to come in with that level of access and he's now sitting there stubbornly refusing to apologise. Those people want it to be true (1-2 have even said that) because they don't like him and want him out. We have zero evidence that actually happened though. People are falling over themselves to believe that but does it sound likely? You would think that behind the scenes most of the sponsors as well as the likes of Ed Sheeran's team are putting the pressure on. Are the owners ignoring this and letting Ashton have full control? Seems unlikely to me. There may well be an internal struggle between some of the owners who are pro Trump and therefore quite happy to let this go and other high ranking people/part owners who want to distance themselves as much as possible. There is, as far as I am aware, zero evidence of this being down to Ashton. If 51%+ of the owners are happy then what can he do? There's zero evidence for what i've said either and I am well aware of that but that doesn't mean we get to make something up to fill the gap. For all we know Ashton could be sitting at his desk with his head in his hands thinking how the hell do I get us out of this? Or he could be on the golf course laughing at the reaction. We just don't know. |
If you leave a vacuum then it will get filled by speculation. I think they need to explain but am beginning to doubt they will. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:29 - Mar 26 with 717 views | StokieBlue |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:55 - Mar 26 by Prominent_Blue | But if you don't agree you've made a mistake why apologise ? It's not getting worse by the hour but Mike Heath has decided to dredge it up again. Mark Ashton has my full support and we wouldn't be where we are today without him. |
This is nonsense. It's being covered in a lot of pieces, the EADT haven't dragged it up again. The Second Tier podcast, which has a large audience, covered it in quite a bit of depth in the latest podcast and weren't impressed at all with the "statement". SB |  |
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| EADT demanding an apology on 13:32 - Mar 26 with 681 views | gsoly |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:24 - Mar 26 by m14_blue | If you leave a vacuum then it will get filled by speculation. I think they need to explain but am beginning to doubt they will. |
The silence of the club on social media since the Charlton ticket announcement shows there's clearly an internal policy of nothing out while they work out their next move. It's such a shame it's going to have such a large impact on the women's game this weekend, which would have been being heavily pushed at this point. I don't think it's hyperbole to say the lack of promo and general feel around the club this week will result in thousands less attending PR than could have been. I still expect there to be more from the club - be that an Ashton piece to camera, or a further statement. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:33 - Mar 26 with 682 views | tractorboy1978 | It's all a bit meaningless now though isn't it? Any apology this late after the event is clearly because they have been forced into it and because they think they need to for economic reasons. They had one shot at killing this with the initial statement they put out and they stuffed it up. |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:43 - Mar 26 with 607 views | Skip_Intro | it's just a shame that they didn't feel enough outrage to remove the paywall so that everyone can read it... |  | |  |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:44 - Mar 26 with 594 views | Illinoisblue |
| EADT demanding an apology on 13:06 - Mar 26 by J2BLUE | I think an apology would be the right thing to do but a lot of people are acting like they know what happened. The most widely held belief seems to be Ashton either invited them or signed off on it and allowed them to come in with that level of access and he's now sitting there stubbornly refusing to apologise. Those people want it to be true (1-2 have even said that) because they don't like him and want him out. We have zero evidence that actually happened though. People are falling over themselves to believe that but does it sound likely? You would think that behind the scenes most of the sponsors as well as the likes of Ed Sheeran's team are putting the pressure on. Are the owners ignoring this and letting Ashton have full control? Seems unlikely to me. There may well be an internal struggle between some of the owners who are pro Trump and therefore quite happy to let this go and other high ranking people/part owners who want to distance themselves as much as possible. There is, as far as I am aware, zero evidence of this being down to Ashton. If 51%+ of the owners are happy then what can he do? There's zero evidence for what i've said either and I am well aware of that but that doesn't mean we get to make something up to fill the gap. For all we know Ashton could be sitting at his desk with his head in his hands thinking how the hell do I get us out of this? Or he could be on the golf course laughing at the reaction. We just don't know. |
It’s the fact we don’t know what actually happened that is the cause of all the fuss and angst. Were they invited? Who bought the shirts? Did they have permission to film… until that’s cleared up people will rightly be pissed off. |  |
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| EADT demanding an apology on 13:46 - Mar 26 with 579 views | GlasgowBlue |
| EADT demanding an apology on 12:44 - Mar 26 by itfcjoe | If Ashton had the balls he should sit in on the press conference and field any questions about it |
Emergency pod time Joe? I think it needs to be aired by you guys who can discuss this sensibly. We were absolutely rinsed on the second tier today. |  |
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