| Why Ashton needs to go... 09:57 - Mar 31 with 6265 views | mrshallisfit |
What we have now is a disunited fanbase. That has been ripped open by Ashton and it cant be repaired. We all realise when we go to a game that the 29000 or so around us that we have different opinions than each other. I hear the Reform based chants. I hear the knuckle dragging comments on a regular basis. I have the seething contempt for people's apathy and people's bigotry. But I try to ignore it all and hope my club helps me to forget it all by whipping me away into an alternative world of one agenda: ITFC. Most of the time this season at home the players have done that successfully.
What Ashton has now done is created, in such a poorly timed way, a huge divide between fans that someways can never be healed. Its the same gap that occurs across society day to day.
So what to do for the immediate? There should be a protest on the day. Before the match perhaps in central town and then at the club but positioned to avoid the bus route of the players. That protest should be suspended about 45 mins before kick-off and then resumed straight after the match, hopefully in even bigger numbers.
Of course I want the players protected as much as possible, but if we are to believe various statements they are angry as well.
If you don't want any protest against Ashton because (a) you cant be arsed (b) or even worse you think Ashton was right and the club should be linked with Reform - then that shows the divide there is amongst fans anyway. I for example wouldn't want to share one micro-seconds oxygen with you for the rest of my life, as I have complete contempt for you.
I suppose that is the wonder of football. It brings together many various and varied people together under one shared experience. Our chairman has decided to blaze a floodlight onto these differences at just the worst moment, creating the perfect opposite of what he always said he wanted to achieve - fan togetherness. Of course, he did not do that deliberately. His actions were blinded by his raw undiluted ego.
I have been going to Portman Road for nearly 48 years and Ashton wont stop me going in the future. However, whilst he is in charged I don't feel the same about the club. I know its futile in some ways but I haven't worn anything ITFC related since the events of last week. I have been ashamed since then to be a supporter. That's why I will continue to protest against his presence till the moment he has gone. Any right-thinking fan with some kind of fucntioning moral compass should do the same. [Post edited 31 Mar 9:58]
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:36 - Mar 31 with 641 views | Rimsy |
Get over it for God's sake. Be crazy to get rid of Ashton, who has arguably done more for the club than McK. He's made one error of judgement in 4 years or so and everyone wants him crucified. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:37 - Mar 31 with 639 views | Olcol |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 11:36 - Mar 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Until Ashton leaves or makes a full and proper specific apology, the official club line is in opposition to your opening paragraph. Either the club thinks differently or he needs to go. |
Ashton needs to pray that super K,M and the squad make it to the premier league. It would be naive of us to think that no one is affected by what has happened. I will bet that if we miss promotion Ashton will be out, if not sooner.
I can only imagine how many prospective young footballers will be unwilling to join a club with a CEO who invited a racist poly to use the club as a spring board. Even if we get into the premier league I doubt we look like a good club while Ashton is at the helm for future young footballers from around the world. We will be doing well to keep hold of existing talent if he stays much longer. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:54 - Mar 31 with 587 views | ZedRodgers |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:36 - Mar 31 by Rimsy |
Get over it for God's sake. Be crazy to get rid of Ashton, who has arguably done more for the club than McK. He's made one error of judgement in 4 years or so and everyone wants him crucified. |
I would argue that he struck gold with KMc, and has been carried by his successes ever since.
I'd also argue that this is not his only error of judgement. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:58 - Mar 31 with 566 views | bluelagos |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:54 - Mar 31 by ZedRodgers |
I would argue that he struck gold with KMc, and has been carried by his successes ever since.
I'd also argue that this is not his only error of judgement. |
Absolutely. The idea that this is Ashton's only mistake is a bit silly,
It's his biggest, clearly. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:05 - Mar 31 with 547 views | NthQldITFC |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:21 - Mar 31 by BlacknGoldnBlue |
The club should get rid of Ashton and appoint Holland until a more suitable candidate can be found. Appointing Holland would unite the fan base, steady the ship and allow us all to move forward.
While Ashton is part of the club then the division will continue. He lost the opportunity to explain and apologise, and now has to go.
If people don't want to join a protest then the best way to make an impact is not purchasing anything from the club shop or in the ground |
Oddly, I've been thinking about that myself this morning, suddenly occurred to me. I don't know what qualifications you really need to be a CEO, but Holland is obviously an articulate and intelligent guy, knows the game and club inside out and would probably be second to none at the bridge building job needed right now.
Whether he could hold the tiller in terms of the bigger picture I have no idea, but standing in until the end of the season and maybe carrying on in some kind of similar role beyond that seems a very good suggestion to me. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:08 - Mar 31 with 536 views | Tambu |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:05 - Mar 31 by NthQldITFC |
Oddly, I've been thinking about that myself this morning, suddenly occurred to me. I don't know what qualifications you really need to be a CEO, but Holland is obviously an articulate and intelligent guy, knows the game and club inside out and would probably be second to none at the bridge building job needed right now.
Whether he could hold the tiller in terms of the bigger picture I have no idea, but standing in until the end of the season and maybe carrying on in some kind of similar role beyond that seems a very good suggestion to me. |
Given how previous incumbents have been treated, why would Holland even want that? *insert Joker quote here* |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:11 - Mar 31 with 523 views | positivity |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:05 - Mar 31 by NthQldITFC |
Oddly, I've been thinking about that myself this morning, suddenly occurred to me. I don't know what qualifications you really need to be a CEO, but Holland is obviously an articulate and intelligent guy, knows the game and club inside out and would probably be second to none at the bridge building job needed right now.
Whether he could hold the tiller in terms of the bigger picture I have no idea, but standing in until the end of the season and maybe carrying on in some kind of similar role beyond that seems a very good suggestion to me. |
he'd do fine until the end of the season.
any decent ceo will have put people in place to delegate to, so unless ashton is even more incompetent than we thought, things will tick along nicely until we replace him (and the chairman) | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:11 - Mar 31 with 522 views | thebooks |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:05 - Mar 31 by NthQldITFC |
Oddly, I've been thinking about that myself this morning, suddenly occurred to me. I don't know what qualifications you really need to be a CEO, but Holland is obviously an articulate and intelligent guy, knows the game and club inside out and would probably be second to none at the bridge building job needed right now.
Whether he could hold the tiller in terms of the bigger picture I have no idea, but standing in until the end of the season and maybe carrying on in some kind of similar role beyond that seems a very good suggestion to me. |
I think the whole CEO role is vastly overrated, tbh.
But getting Matt Holland in as a temporary figurehead seems a good idea to me. |  | | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:12 - Mar 31 with 517 views | positivity |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:08 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
Given how previous incumbents have been treated, why would Holland even want that? *insert Joker quote here* |
which previous incumbents are you thinking of?
our fanbase is generally thought to be too docile, if anything | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:12 - Mar 31 with 516 views | NthQldITFC |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:08 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
Given how previous incumbents have been treated, why would Holland even want that? *insert Joker quote here* |
That's daft man - 'how previous incumbents have been treated'? There's only one previous = current incumbent in this (Gamechanger) form of the football club and he's been treated like a princess until he got the racists in and then started lying to everybody about it.
Fantastic opportunity at ITFC given what the club (driven, to be fair, by Ashton) have put in place in the last 4 years - anyone interested in that kind of job, who's not already in place at a PL club, would champing at the bit for this job. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:16 - Mar 31 with 499 views | positivity |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:12 - Mar 31 by NthQldITFC |
That's daft man - 'how previous incumbents have been treated'? There's only one previous = current incumbent in this (Gamechanger) form of the football club and he's been treated like a princess until he got the racists in and then started lying to everybody about it.
Fantastic opportunity at ITFC given what the club (driven, to be fair, by Ashton) have put in place in the last 4 years - anyone interested in that kind of job, who's not already in place at a PL club, would champing at the bit for this job. |
wondering if the vacancy at chairman might make it an attractive proposition for an existing partnership? | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:28 - Mar 31 with 480 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:58 - Mar 31 by bluelagos |
Absolutely. The idea that this is Ashton's only mistake is a bit silly,
It's his biggest, clearly. |
But, hey. At least he's owned it. |  |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:30 - Mar 31 with 472 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:12 - Mar 31 by NthQldITFC |
That's daft man - 'how previous incumbents have been treated'? There's only one previous = current incumbent in this (Gamechanger) form of the football club and he's been treated like a princess until he got the racists in and then started lying to everybody about it.
Fantastic opportunity at ITFC given what the club (driven, to be fair, by Ashton) have put in place in the last 4 years - anyone interested in that kind of job, who's not already in place at a PL club, would champing at the bit for this job. |
Can I just say... kudos to you.
You are the first person I have seen to correctly use champing for far longer than I care to remember. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:32 - Mar 31 with 457 views | mrshallisfit |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:38 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
You are in an echo chamber. |
I suppose if you are in echo chamber - better it having echoes that have some moral basis and are not driven with right-wing populism. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:32 - Mar 31 with 456 views | NthQldITFC |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:30 - Mar 31 by TheMoralMajority |
Can I just say... kudos to you.
You are the first person I have seen to correctly use champing for far longer than I care to remember. |
Comes from my time as a travelling bondage equipment salesman, and part-time horse. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:38 - Mar 31 with 439 views | Tambu |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:12 - Mar 31 by NthQldITFC |
That's daft man - 'how previous incumbents have been treated'? There's only one previous = current incumbent in this (Gamechanger) form of the football club and he's been treated like a princess until he got the racists in and then started lying to everybody about it.
Fantastic opportunity at ITFC given what the club (driven, to be fair, by Ashton) have put in place in the last 4 years - anyone interested in that kind of job, who's not already in place at a PL club, would champing at the bit for this job. |
You lot are clearly all young.
Sheepy wasn't exactly revered, Marcus Evans, he had a lovely time. Why would anyone want to to be either the |CEO/Owner or the manager. It's a thankless task that sees you become the villain. GB, luded right up to the point the muppets turned. Jim too. Don't have short memories. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:48 - Mar 31 with 425 views | NthQldITFC |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:38 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
You lot are clearly all young.
Sheepy wasn't exactly revered, Marcus Evans, he had a lovely time. Why would anyone want to to be either the |CEO/Owner or the manager. It's a thankless task that sees you become the villain. GB, luded right up to the point the muppets turned. Jim too. Don't have short memories. |
Duh! The CEO operates in an environment determined by the ownership. What went on under Evans or earlier has zero bearing on anybody taking the job today. It was a completely different environment, no relevance whatsoever. Unless you're talking about football in general, but then football CEOs do exist, so that doesn't hold water. Or are you talking about managers now? Confused. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:48 - Mar 31 with 421 views | mrshallisfit |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:38 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
You lot are clearly all young.
Sheepy wasn't exactly revered, Marcus Evans, he had a lovely time. Why would anyone want to to be either the |CEO/Owner or the manager. It's a thankless task that sees you become the villain. GB, luded right up to the point the muppets turned. Jim too. Don't have short memories. |
Nope. Nearly 60. And I can tell the difference between Chairman that try their best, make good decisions, make bad decisions, have little clue on how to run a football club etc. There was little secret that M Evans was a Lib Dem supporter. He didn't bring their leaders at the time into the heart of the football club.. Compare this to what M Ashton did last week and there is no comparison. Obviously you cant see that. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:50 - Mar 31 with 415 views | mrshallisfit |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:58 - Mar 31 by bluelagos |
Absolutely. The idea that this is Ashton's only mistake is a bit silly,
It's his biggest, clearly. |
And one he shouldn't survive from. | | | |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:51 - Mar 31 with 414 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:38 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
You lot are clearly all young.
Sheepy wasn't exactly revered, Marcus Evans, he had a lovely time. Why would anyone want to to be either the |CEO/Owner or the manager. It's a thankless task that sees you become the villain. GB, luded right up to the point the muppets turned. Jim too. Don't have short memories. |
You seem to also be assuming that people who want Ashton gone are the same people who wanted Evans and Sheepy gone before him.
I think the circumstances around Sheepy were very difficult. He brought me more success than I had seen in my (remembered) lifetime, I was very sad when he went (rightly or wrongly).
By the time Evans went, I was entirely apathetic.
I also never hounded GB or Jim (and I think the way Jim was treated was disgraceful).
I still want Ashton to go though. I can't abide dishonesty. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:54 - Mar 31 with 402 views | positivity |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:38 - Mar 31 by Tambu |
You lot are clearly all young.
Sheepy wasn't exactly revered, Marcus Evans, he had a lovely time. Why would anyone want to to be either the |CEO/Owner or the manager. It's a thankless task that sees you become the villain. GB, luded right up to the point the muppets turned. Jim too. Don't have short memories. |
totally different roles, sheepy was a very popular chairman until he took us into administration, which was a big deal if you're old enough to remember
evans was neither chairman or ceo, just a pretty vacant (for the last few years) owner. his best move as owner was selling us to gamechanger.
so in short, it's a pretty attractive job where you'll be lauded when you're doing well. however, do expect to be sacked if you destroy the club economically or makes us a international laughing stock!
only the most entitled snowflake would expect better than that! | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:57 - Mar 31 with 390 views | jayessess |
On the whole "he should stay until the end of the season" thing - I'm wondering why, exactly? Surely the CEO has virtually no direct effect on on-field performance between March and May? I imagine his football-related to do list is just prep work for the Summer at this point. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:04]
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 15:02 - Mar 31 with 377 views | grow_our_own |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 12:03 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE |
Ashton IN.
Until 4th May. Then if the club want to replace him, great. Would give them time to find someone else who is ready to hit the ground running. |
Plonk a caretaker in. I'm sure day-to-day, the club pretty much runs itself. Even if jettisoning Ashton now puts us a month behind schedule on a few matters, it'll be worth it to draw a line under this, and bring the club back together for the final push.
"We want Ashton out, say we want Ashton out!" [Post edited 31 Mar 15:03]
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 15:08 - Mar 31 with 351 views | Tambu |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 14:48 - Mar 31 by mrshallisfit |
Nope. Nearly 60. And I can tell the difference between Chairman that try their best, make good decisions, make bad decisions, have little clue on how to run a football club etc. There was little secret that M Evans was a Lib Dem supporter. He didn't bring their leaders at the time into the heart of the football club.. Compare this to what M Ashton did last week and there is no comparison. Obviously you cant see that. |
Or if he did, there wasn't a photo opportunity and social media campaign that accompanied it. | |
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| Why Ashton needs to go... on 15:12 - Mar 31 with 339 views | grow_our_own |
| Why Ashton needs to go... on 13:36 - Mar 31 by Rimsy |
Get over it for God's sake. Be crazy to get rid of Ashton, who has arguably done more for the club than McK. He's made one error of judgement in 4 years or so and everyone wants him crucified. |
I count he's made over 70 million errors of judgement in the past 19 months. That's the amount he's spaffed on big-money signings who can't get into the first team or are banished on loan. We won't miss Ashton. | | | |
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