| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake 10:44 - Apr 1 with 2680 views | PacittiJohn |
seem to be used as terms of abuse by some. What do they actually mean?
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 10:48 - Apr 1 with 1684 views | JeanManuelThetis |
Whenever someone uses the word woke, I always just politely ask "What does the word woke mean?"
I've never had an answer yet, so I'm still none the wiser. |  | | |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 10:52 - Apr 1 with 1654 views | Kievthegreat |
Can we add Virtue Signalling to your list as well. |  | | |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:02 - Apr 1 with 1617 views | joepublic |
Please move to generalđź‘Ť |  |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:03 - Apr 1 with 1609 views | urbanpenguin |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 10:48 - Apr 1 by JeanManuelThetis |
Whenever someone uses the word woke, I always just politely ask "What does the word woke mean?"
I've never had an answer yet, so I'm still none the wiser. |
It means to be Awake to inequality, to be aware with empathy and alive to others' lived situations. |  | | |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:12 - Apr 1 with 1586 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:03 - Apr 1 by urbanpenguin |
It means to be Awake to inequality, to be aware with empathy and alive to others' lived situations. |
Shut it hippy!
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:13 - Apr 1 with 1574 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
"Politically correct" has gone out of fashion, so "woke" has replaced it. Once it loses its impact they'll replace it with another buzzword. | | | |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:25 - Apr 1 with 1508 views | J2BLUE |
The trouble with woke is that it has different meanings to different people.
For those being called woke they think it means someone who is tolerant so understandably say what's the issue?
For me, it's a term for someone who goes out of their way to be offended by any little thing. Someone who who will argue with you that words are offensive even when they are clearly defined such as overweight or obese. The new one seems to be not wanting to say killed or murdered. Instead going with unalived. I thought this was just something to get around Youtube's restrictions but it seems to be catching on.
Someone who is so obsessed with looking for tiny issues that it becomes their entire identity. |  |
| "I am a genuine believer in free speech, in the real sense, not the left wing sense, the 'I think free speech is important for people I agree with' Guardian readers" - Jonathan Pie ///// "These middle class, perma-offended, virtue-signalling woke w@nkers have declared that the great unwashed are just one tasteless joke away from turning into fascists" - Jonathan Pie ///// "In a sense, the political left’s attempts to silence ideas they cannot, or will not, debate are a confession of intellectual bankruptcy" - Thomas Sowell
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:33 - Apr 1 with 1468 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
I could be accused of being 'woke', referring to the term's original meaning before it was hijacked to be associated with moral superiority. I'm also right of centre with my political views, so 'woke lefty' makes little sense.
Woke has (original definition) a lot of overlap with compassion, so I cannot see how people can see that as an insult, but there you go. That's the modern playbook, much of it coming out of a the extremes of an ultra-divided, almost rabid, USA .
This is a good (original) definition of woke.
" The word, which had its origins in African American society and groups, referred to be [sic] aware of (awake to) racial and social injustices, opposing oppression, and seeking an emphasis on how past events impacted some of these injustices, and attempting to address, proactively, creating a fairer, more empathetic society!" | | | |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:48 - Apr 1 with 1426 views | DJR |
As with much in politics, woke (both in its original and pejorative meanings) is a rather artificial import from American politics.
In my view, it is used in this country mainly in its pejorative sense and has tended to end up being used to describe anything or any person the person using it doesn't like. [Post edited 1 Apr 11:52]
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:54 - Apr 1 with 1395 views | Rimsy |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:48 - Apr 1 by DJR |
As with much in politics, woke (both in its original and pejorative meanings) is a rather artificial import from American politics.
In my view, it is used in this country mainly in its pejorative sense and has tended to end up being used to describe anything or any person the person using it doesn't like. [Post edited 1 Apr 11:52]
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This^^
Much like anyone with even slight right wing leanings are derided as being racist, fascists etc. |  |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:58 - Apr 1 with 1370 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:48 - Apr 1 by DJR |
As with much in politics, woke (both in its original and pejorative meanings) is a rather artificial import from American politics.
In my view, it is used in this country mainly in its pejorative sense and has tended to end up being used to describe anything or any person the person using it doesn't like. [Post edited 1 Apr 11:52]
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"...it is used in this country mainly in its pejorative sense..."
I'd say that's true is most countries now, including the US. | | | |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 12:03 - Apr 1 with 1348 views | DJR |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:54 - Apr 1 by Rimsy |
This^^
Much like anyone with even slight right wing leanings are derided as being racist, fascists etc. |
In my view, and I come from the left, debating ideas not trading insults is the only way to act.
In footballing terms, it's a case of playing the ball not the man.
Sadly in this day and age that is not how many appear to behave at least when it comes to social media.
EDIT: This extends beyond politics. I always try to be polite in all my dealings with people in person, and am no different on the only social media I use, TWTD. [Post edited 1 Apr 12:21]
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 12:42 - Apr 1 with 1238 views | Devereuxxx |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 10:48 - Apr 1 by JeanManuelThetis |
Whenever someone uses the word woke, I always just politely ask "What does the word woke mean?"
I've never had an answer yet, so I'm still none the wiser. |
There was a lovely moment a couple of years when an author who had written a book on the perils of woke was then completely unable to define the term during a live TV interview.
https://www.independent.co.uk/
Emblematic of its current usage as a vehicle for 'thing I don't agree with with'. |  | | |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 12:51 - Apr 1 with 1199 views | lowhouseblue |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 10:48 - Apr 1 by JeanManuelThetis |
Whenever someone uses the word woke, I always just politely ask "What does the word woke mean?"
I've never had an answer yet, so I'm still none the wiser. |
a uk court has now accepted the following definition: "the dominant philosophical belief in academia which holds white people to be morally accountable for all group disparities favouring whites." |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:00 - Apr 1 with 1146 views | Dubtractor |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 12:51 - Apr 1 by lowhouseblue |
a uk court has now accepted the following definition: "the dominant philosophical belief in academia which holds white people to be morally accountable for all group disparities favouring whites." |
Which court? |  |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:19 - Apr 1 with 1048 views | Herbivore |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:00 - Apr 1 by Dubtractor |
Which court? |
A county court. There's quite a significant amount of context missing from lowie's post, somewhat surprisingly: https://www.doyleclayton.co.uk |  |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:22 - Apr 1 with 1021 views | lowhouseblue |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:19 - Apr 1 by Herbivore |
A county court. There's quite a significant amount of context missing from lowie's post, somewhat surprisingly: https://www.doyleclayton.co.uk |
what context is that? | |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:32 - Apr 1 with 962 views | Rozz |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 11:25 - Apr 1 by J2BLUE |
The trouble with woke is that it has different meanings to different people.
For those being called woke they think it means someone who is tolerant so understandably say what's the issue?
For me, it's a term for someone who goes out of their way to be offended by any little thing. Someone who who will argue with you that words are offensive even when they are clearly defined such as overweight or obese. The new one seems to be not wanting to say killed or murdered. Instead going with unalived. I thought this was just something to get around Youtube's restrictions but it seems to be catching on.
Someone who is so obsessed with looking for tiny issues that it becomes their entire identity. |
Unalived is used almost exclusively online to get around social media algorithms which demonetise or remove entirely videos referencing death. You’ll often see text format stories which are reposted as images on social media sites with these kinds of terms (death, suicide, drugs etc.) censored out, often crudely. It’s called “algospeak” according to google.
So, one less thing to get upset about.
Edit: sorry, just read the whole post properly. Are people really saying this out in the real world? [Post edited 1 Apr 13:35]
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:35 - Apr 1 with 927 views | Herbivore |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:22 - Apr 1 by lowhouseblue |
what context is that? |
All of it, effectively. | |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:36 - Apr 1 with 923 views | lowhouseblue |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:35 - Apr 1 by Herbivore |
All of it, effectively. |
again no answer. | |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:36 - Apr 1 with 926 views | vapour_trail |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:32 - Apr 1 by Rozz |
Unalived is used almost exclusively online to get around social media algorithms which demonetise or remove entirely videos referencing death. You’ll often see text format stories which are reposted as images on social media sites with these kinds of terms (death, suicide, drugs etc.) censored out, often crudely. It’s called “algospeak” according to google.
So, one less thing to get upset about.
Edit: sorry, just read the whole post properly. Are people really saying this out in the real world? [Post edited 1 Apr 13:35]
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I had never heard of it before opening this thread. |  |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:41 - Apr 1 with 891 views | Dubtractor |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:22 - Apr 1 by lowhouseblue |
what context is that? |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the definition there isn't really about what 'woke' is, but about what 'anti-woke' thinking defines 'woke' to be. | |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:42 - Apr 1 with 882 views | vapour_trail |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:41 - Apr 1 by Dubtractor |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the definition there isn't really about what 'woke' is, but about what 'anti-woke' thinking defines 'woke' to be. |
I have a feeling you might be one of those 40 I’ve been hearing about. | |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:44 - Apr 1 with 869 views | Herbivore |
| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:36 - Apr 1 by lowhouseblue |
again no answer. |
I've answered. You don't like the answer, which is understandable, but I have answered. | |
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| The terms: Leftie, Woke, Snowflake on 13:44 - Apr 1 with 864 views | EdwardStone |
I am disappointed that "woke" has replaced PC (as in Political Correctness)an insult for things you disagree with
Political Corectness Gone Mad was a favourite chime in the 1990s.... alas, no more
A shame because I had a snappy comeback for the anti-PC bunch....
What if PC stood for politeness and consideration? |  | | |
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