| Trump going completely round the bend 14:05 - Apr 5 with 4506 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:21 - Apr 5 with 834 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 17:07 - Apr 5 by Churchman |
If he wants to reduce Tehran or anywhere else to a pile of ash, he can do so. He doesn’t have to ask anybody, seek permission or anything like that. Essentially he gives the order and the flunkeys get on with it.
But he won’t. He might like the idea of watching something different on tv while he dips his soldiers into his boiled egg, but there’s nothing in it for him. No profit, no votes. |
Hopefully you’re right. Beeb News have just announced he’s extended the deadline for a deal. That seems fairly routine for him, so hopefully he is more bluster than action. Meanwhile Iran just get on with committing war crimes by bombing civilian infrastructure, not puffing their chests out with potentially empty threats. I suppose that’s a sign Trump is showing some restraint. |  |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:22 - Apr 5 with 833 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 17:57 - Apr 5 by J2BLUE |
Have you got a link please?
He's heavily in Bitcoin. [Post edited 5 Apr 17:59]
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I don't have a link. I read it somewhere a few weeks back. They've been manipulating the stock market since the beginning of his second term. Amassing fortunes. | |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:22 - Apr 5 with 838 views | DJR |
Someone on BBC news said that during the second Iraq war, over 150 bridges were destroyed. But I suppose George Dubya wasn't on social media and would have tried to play these sort of things down. |  | | |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:23 - Apr 5 with 815 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 17:54 - Apr 5 by ElderGrizzly |
Are there still any independently verified sources showing him alive?
No matter your support for Israel, their leader disappearing for almost 3 weeks and their use of very poor AI at a time of war to prove’ he was alive was bizarre at best. |
I'll ignore the dig. Did you say he was hiding in Germany? Just a simple yes or no. | |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:53 - Apr 5 with 756 views | StokieBlue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 17:58 - Apr 5 by ElderGrizzly |
He’s purging all those in the armed forces who might have stopped him
10 senior figures gone in the last two weeks, being replaced by supporters of Hegseth/Trump |
Yes but in reality nobody is going to push that button.
There are still generals who won't and then it's an individual somewhere who won't.
Someone like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:55 - Apr 5 with 749 views | Guthrum |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 16:29 - Apr 5 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Would anyone be surprised if the Americans nuked Teheran? |
It would achieve absolutely nothing for the USA. Wouldn't end the war, wouldn't reopen the Straits of Hormuz, wouldn't stop Israel bombing Hezbollah. The Iranian regime is far too dispersed and hardened to be knocked out by that. All it would do is kill a large number of civilians and spark worldwide revulsion against the man who ordered it. |  |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:00 - Apr 5 with 722 views | pointofblue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:22 - Apr 5 by DJR |
Someone on BBC news said that during the second Iraq war, over 150 bridges were destroyed. But I suppose George Dubya wasn't on social media and would have tried to play these sort of things down. |
I imagine it may have been seen differently as American troops were on the ground, so the destruction of bridges were being done so from a military/"protection" point of view, rather than trying to force Hussein's government in to submission. |  |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:02 - Apr 5 with 713 views | RadioOrwell |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 15:14 - Apr 5 by Illinoisblue |
Can’t understate the failing of the Democratic Party, either. They have infinite material with which to highlight Trump’s lies and deceit yet fail to do that. |
They're not allowed to say anything otherwise they'll have 'trump derangement syndrome'. |  | | |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:06 - Apr 5 with 692 views | Guthrum |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 15:14 - Apr 5 by Illinoisblue |
Can’t understate the failing of the Democratic Party, either. They have infinite material with which to highlight Trump’s lies and deceit yet fail to do that. |
There is no avenue for doing anything about it. Congress in his pocket, a conservative-dominated Supreme Court and a large number of cultists who don't care what the Democrats say he's done.
Until the Mid-Terms happen (assuming they do, in any kind of free and fair manner) with one or both of Senate and House flipping, there is no leverage. | |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:25 - Apr 5 with 634 views | The_Major |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:55 - Apr 5 by Guthrum |
It would achieve absolutely nothing for the USA. Wouldn't end the war, wouldn't reopen the Straits of Hormuz, wouldn't stop Israel bombing Hezbollah. The Iranian regime is far too dispersed and hardened to be knocked out by that. All it would do is kill a large number of civilians and spark worldwide revulsion against the man who ordered it. |
Yep, it'd be completely self defeating plot. Any tactical nuclear detonation could result in fallout drifting back across the strait, and towards the Gulf states. Condemnation would be pretty much absolute, for launching a nuclear strike against a non nuclear state.
It'd probably be what finally kills of NATO, plus I wouldn't be surprised if everyone closed their airspace - not to mention the possibility we kick them out of Lakenheath and Mildenhall so we're not in the firing line for any sort of retaliation.
It would Increase the possibility of Putin thinking "Oh well, if he can do it, I can", and lob one at Kyiv.
It's a complete insane idea that only an utter lunatic would even contemplate.
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:26 - Apr 5 with 632 views | Dubtractor |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:25 - Apr 5 by The_Major |
Yep, it'd be completely self defeating plot. Any tactical nuclear detonation could result in fallout drifting back across the strait, and towards the Gulf states. Condemnation would be pretty much absolute, for launching a nuclear strike against a non nuclear state.
It'd probably be what finally kills of NATO, plus I wouldn't be surprised if everyone closed their airspace - not to mention the possibility we kick them out of Lakenheath and Mildenhall so we're not in the firing line for any sort of retaliation.
It would Increase the possibility of Putin thinking "Oh well, if he can do it, I can", and lob one at Kyiv.
It's a complete insane idea that only an utter lunatic would even contemplate.
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Again, I don’t see how you can read this as anything other than Trump trying to normalize the idea of using nuclear weapons — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-04-05T17:40:53.297Z
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:33 - Apr 5 with 597 views | armchaircritic59 |
Can't decide who's the maddest frog in the box, DJT, JDV or RJK. Might be a three way tie. Unfortunately for the rest of the world. |  | | |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:39 - Apr 5 with 566 views | Ryorry |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 17:58 - Apr 5 by ElderGrizzly |
He’s purging all those in the armed forces who might have stopped him
10 senior figures gone in the last two weeks, being replaced by supporters of Hegseth/Trump |
Doesn’t it still require three simultaneous (or quick succession) fingers on the button or similar?
Are you saying there’s no-one who’d say ’no’? |  |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:39 - Apr 5 with 569 views | The_Major |
Asked Gemini what it thought the likely consequences would be of a tactical nuke.
In the context of the current conflict following the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and the ongoing air campaign, the authorization of tactical nuclear weapons against Iran would represent the most significant shift in global security since 1945. Given President Trump’s recent "Tuesday deadline" and threats to target civilian and energy infrastructure, here is an analysis of what would likely follow such a decision.
1. Immediate Military and Environmental Impact
Tactical nuclear weapons (lower-yield munitions intended for battlefield or specific hardened targets) would likely be directed at Iran’s deeply buried nuclear facilities (like Fordow) or command-and-control hubs.
Target Destruction: Unlike conventional "bunker busters," tactical nukes could collapse hardened underground structures. However, hitting civilian infrastructure—as suggested by the President's "Power Plant Day" comments—would lead to massive immediate casualties.
Radioactive Fallout: Even "small" nuclear strikes produce fallout. Depending on wind patterns, radiation could drift toward America's regional partners (like Kuwait, the UAE, or Qatar) or eastward toward Afghanistan and Pakistan, creating a humanitarian and environmental catastrophe for which there is no modern precedent.
2. Iranian Retaliation: The "Scorched Earth" Response
With the nuclear threshold crossed, the Iranian leadership would likely perceive an existential threat, triggering their most extreme contingency plans:
Regional Strikes: Iran would likely launch its remaining ballistic and cruise missile inventory against every accessible U.S. base in the region and Israeli population centers.
Asymmetric Warfare: "Sleeper cells" and proxy groups throughout the Middle East and Europe could be activated for unconventional attacks.
Total Blockade: Any remaining hope of reopening the Strait of Hormuz through negotiation would vanish. Iran might attempt to mine the waterway so heavily that it remains impassable for years.
3. The Global Geopolitical Earthquake
The "nuclear taboo"—the 80-year-old unwritten rule against the use of nuclear weapons—would be shattered.
Russia and China: Both nations have already condemned the conventional U.S. strikes. Russia might use the U.S. precedent to justify using its own tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. China would likely sever all remaining economic ties with the U.S., viewing Washington as a rogue actor that threatens global stability.
The Collapse of Alliances: Even the closest U.S. allies (the U.K., France, Germany) would likely experience an immediate and total rupture with the Trump administration to avoid being seen as complicit in a nuclear first-strike, potentially leading to the collapse of NATO.
4. Global Economic Collapse
The energy markets, already strained by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, would enter a state of absolute panic.
Oil Prices: Experts suggest oil could instantly surge past $250 or $300 per barrel.
Supply Chains: Global shipping would likely halt as insurance for vessels in any conflict-adjacent zone becomes unavailable. The resulting hyperinflation and stock market crashes could trigger a depression worse than 2008 or 1929.
5. Domestic Constitutional Crisis
In Washington, an order to use nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear state in a conventional conflict would likely trigger an immediate internal crisis.
The Chain of Command: There would be immense pressure on the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. While the President has the sole authority to authorize nuclear use, military officers are sworn to refuse "manifestly illegal" orders. If the strike is seen as a violation of the Law of Armed Conflict (e.g., targeting civilians/power plants), it could lead to a direct standoff between the White House and the Pentagon.
Congressional Action: An immediate move for impeachment or the invocation of the 25th Amendment would be virtually certain, as the U.S. would face total international isolation.
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:51 - Apr 5 with 499 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:06 - Apr 5 by Churchman |
When a bloke who is clearly a sandwich short of a picnic himself says Trump’s gone (and ‘we need to pray for President Trump’) you know it’s bad. |
Even Alex Jones is talking sense too
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:55 - Apr 5 with 476 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:55 - Apr 5 by Guthrum |
It would achieve absolutely nothing for the USA. Wouldn't end the war, wouldn't reopen the Straits of Hormuz, wouldn't stop Israel bombing Hezbollah. The Iranian regime is far too dispersed and hardened to be knocked out by that. All it would do is kill a large number of civilians and spark worldwide revulsion against the man who ordered it. |
There are several people in here like you talking perfectly reasonably using logic. The trouble is that Trump does neither. I hope you’re right though. | |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:55 - Apr 5 with 474 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:22 - Apr 5 by GlasgowBlue |
I don't have a link. I read it somewhere a few weeks back. They've been manipulating the stock market since the beginning of his second term. Amassing fortunes. |
They are apparently $4bn richer in 12 months since regaining power. A lot of it from weapons contracts conveniently linked to his sons.
Everything is a shakedown. | | | |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:56 - Apr 5 with 454 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 18:23 - Apr 5 by GlasgowBlue |
I'll ignore the dig. Did you say he was hiding in Germany? Just a simple yes or no. |
No.
I said Flight records showed official plane was in Germany for over 2 weeks and he hadn’t been seen for those 2 weeks. Other people were joining the dots [Post edited 5 Apr 19:57]
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:57 - Apr 5 with 438 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:39 - Apr 5 by Ryorry |
Doesn’t it still require three simultaneous (or quick succession) fingers on the button or similar?
Are you saying there’s no-one who’d say ’no’? |
There are fewer who would say no now than 2 weeks ago | | | |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 20:10 - Apr 5 with 384 views | pointofblue |
Latest BBC update states the UAE is ready to "join any American-led effort" to "secure navigation" in the strait, basically sating Iran's attacks on it's neighbours has soildified the US/Israel position.
I think Trump needs more people to tell him no at this point. | |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 20:24 - Apr 5 with 325 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:56 - Apr 5 by ElderGrizzly |
No.
I said Flight records showed official plane was in Germany for over 2 weeks and he hadn’t been seen for those 2 weeks. Other people were joining the dots [Post edited 5 Apr 19:57]
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 21:31 - Apr 5 with 231 views | Churchman |
No, it’s just bombastic nonsense. There are actually conventional weapons that are as destructive as nuclear stuff. Not only that, the country is truly huge. They don’t have the means to do it or the time. It’s not a popular was in US beyond the MAGA loons.
His allies in the region are hardly likely to welcome nuclear fallout drifting over their country either.
No, he will do some show bombing, let Israel carry on and declare the war won. The only question is when. The irony is you cannot win a war without boots on the ground and that’s not going to happen. [Post edited 5 Apr 22:23]
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 21:39 - Apr 5 with 203 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:51 - Apr 5 by ElderGrizzly |
Even Alex Jones is talking sense too
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I’m not surprised, she’s lovely 🥰
Oh, you mean the other one. He’s a c***. Carry on.
Edit - it’s a bit late for him to pipe up now. He’s fully complicit in putting this sociopathic megalomaniac in the White House. He should be serving time with Trump for the damage he’s caused (for Sandy Hook alone). [Post edited 5 Apr 21:46]
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 21:45 - Apr 5 with 186 views | Guthrum |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 19:55 - Apr 5 by Swansea_Blue |
There are several people in here like you talking perfectly reasonably using logic. The trouble is that Trump does neither. I hope you’re right though. |
Trump does have an internal logic, albeit working on very different parameters to most of us.
There isn't a "win" for Trump from using a nuclear weapon. It won't solve his current problems. Is more likely to isolate him from people he gets on with (and who give him praise/presents), like MBS or Netanyahu. | |
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| Trump going completely round the bend on 21:47 - Apr 5 with 179 views | StokieBlue |
| Trump going completely round the bend on 21:31 - Apr 5 by Churchman |
No, it’s just bombastic nonsense. There are actually conventional weapons that are as destructive as nuclear stuff. Not only that, the country is truly huge. They don’t have the means to do it or the time. It’s not a popular was in US beyond the MAGA loons.
His allies in the region are hardly likely to welcome nuclear fallout drifting over their country either.
No, he will do some show bombing, let Israel carry on and declare the war won. The only question is when. The irony is you cannot win a war without boots on the ground and that’s not going to happen. [Post edited 5 Apr 22:23]
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What conventional weapons are as destructive as a thermonuclear device? Even with MIRVs no longer used by the US I don't think there is anything remotely close.
To give some idea, one US device yields 1.2 MT which is approximately 100,000 times more yield than the famous US MOAB conventional bomb.
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