| In "this is not a serious country" news 00:02 - Apr 6 with 1975 views | baxterbasics |
Depressing. Not just the individual case (Shame on Waitrose) but the general tolerance of low level crime like we just have to accept it. Feels like managed decline.
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 01:05 - Apr 6 with 1708 views | Illinoisblue |
It’s all so stupid. With any luck, someone will start a gofundme for him. Stores should taser all shoplifters anyway. |  |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 06:19 - Apr 6 with 1557 views | cressi |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 01:05 - Apr 6 by Illinoisblue |
It’s all so stupid. With any luck, someone will start a gofundme for him. Stores should taser all shoplifters anyway. |
Very few decent companies out there best thing do what you have to do no more there is no reward go home when shift finishes and forget till you have to go in the next time. |  | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 06:53 - Apr 6 with 1489 views | Benters |
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the feral youth wrecking havoc in Clapham yet?
As for old matey this country has gone bonkers.
Shoplift anything up to £199 you carry on mate,£200 you might get a visit from the police to the store.
Like I said it’s bonkers! |  |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 08:07 - Apr 6 with 1383 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 06:53 - Apr 6 by Benters |
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the feral youth wrecking havoc in Clapham yet?
As for old matey this country has gone bonkers.
Shoplift anything up to £199 you carry on mate,£200 you might get a visit from the police to the store.
Like I said it’s bonkers! |
I could be wide of the mark here, but didn't the exact same thing that happened in Clapham happen a couple of years ago? Again in London, IIRC it was all organised over Tik-Tok then? |  |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 08:16 - Apr 6 with 1349 views | WinchBlue |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 06:53 - Apr 6 by Benters |
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the feral youth wrecking havoc in Clapham yet?
As for old matey this country has gone bonkers.
Shoplift anything up to £199 you carry on mate,£200 you might get a visit from the police to the store.
Like I said it’s bonkers! |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 08:51 - Apr 6 with 1276 views | Benters |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 08:07 - Apr 6 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I could be wide of the mark here, but didn't the exact same thing that happened in Clapham happen a couple of years ago? Again in London, IIRC it was all organised over Tik-Tok then? |
I don’t know it’s not a great look though is it hundreds of feral youth smashing shops up in our capital city. | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 09:04 - Apr 6 with 1246 views | Blue_Heath |
100% agree and shame on Waitrose treating a loyal employee in this way. | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 09:23 - Apr 6 with 1185 views | tcblue |
Are we skirting over the fact he'd specifically been warned not to do it before?
I can understand why the store doesn't want to encourage their staff getting injured (or worse) tackling petty theft. Still a damning statement on the state of crime in our country, but I don't think Waitrose could win here | | | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 09:34 - Apr 6 with 1153 views | Benters |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 09:23 - Apr 6 by tcblue |
Are we skirting over the fact he'd specifically been warned not to do it before?
I can understand why the store doesn't want to encourage their staff getting injured (or worse) tackling petty theft. Still a damning statement on the state of crime in our country, but I don't think Waitrose could win here |
The ‘big Tescos’ I use their security guards are often chasing people for pinching alcohol,one couple of young girls had over £700 in value on them,and their coats had specialised pockets stitched into the inside of their puffa coats,so they could swipe the bottles. | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 09:53 - Apr 6 with 1114 views | tcblue |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 09:34 - Apr 6 by Benters |
The ‘big Tescos’ I use their security guards are often chasing people for pinching alcohol,one couple of young girls had over £700 in value on them,and their coats had specialised pockets stitched into the inside of their puffa coats,so they could swipe the bottles. |
Fascinating. Was this chap a security guard? | | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 10:08 - Apr 6 with 1075 views | redrickstuhaart |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 06:53 - Apr 6 by Benters |
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the feral youth wrecking havoc in Clapham yet?
As for old matey this country has gone bonkers.
Shoplift anything up to £199 you carry on mate,£200 you might get a visit from the police to the store.
Like I said it’s bonkers! |
A rule brought in by the conservatives, who are now your reform buddies! (though thats not actually an accurate explanation of the rule) | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 10:53 - Apr 6 with 977 views | wischip |
That's just a big advert for our feral yoof to ransack every Waitrose of its remaining overpriced Easter eggs now. The country's gone. |  | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 10:57 - Apr 6 with 952 views | redrickstuhaart |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 10:53 - Apr 6 by wischip |
That's just a big advert for our feral yoof to ransack every Waitrose of its remaining overpriced Easter eggs now. The country's gone. |
No. The country hasn't "gone".
There is a current issue, born of reduction in police funding, an unhelpful change to the law by the preivous government, and it being topic of the day.
60 years ago it was "mods and rockers fighting on brighton beach in broad daylight. Country's gone." What a load of to55. | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:13 - Apr 6 with 917 views | urbanpenguin |
At the risk of inflating this kind of non-story into something bigger.
and also not to belittle it. Such crowd shoplifting is not new - i saw an interesting interview with some locals who said that while it's horrid, kids of their (two different) generations did similar and had different names for it.
That said, to be a bystander, shopkeeper, or caught up in it, it can obviously be very scary.
I think it is partly a product of defunding youth projects, youth clubs, community facilities, sport groups etc, so a whole generation are growing up in a defunded state with little hope or trajectory.
I feel sorry for the shopkeeper. He had been warned. And, frankly, if I was working for a soulless multinational on near-minimum wage, I would in no way stop somebody shoplifting, it's more than my job or health is worth.
Anyway, most importantly from it all, the Clapham Waitrose is a short cycle from me and from the article I now know that the best days for me to go and shoplift are Mondays and Tuesdays when they have no security. Thank for the tipoff! |  | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:47 - Apr 6 with 853 views | homer_123 |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 09:04 - Apr 6 by Blue_Heath |
100% agree and shame on Waitrose treating a loyal employee in this way. |
Loyal employees treated the same as loyal shoplifters! |  |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 12:12 - Apr 6 with 801 views | NedPlimpton |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:13 - Apr 6 by urbanpenguin |
At the risk of inflating this kind of non-story into something bigger.
and also not to belittle it. Such crowd shoplifting is not new - i saw an interesting interview with some locals who said that while it's horrid, kids of their (two different) generations did similar and had different names for it.
That said, to be a bystander, shopkeeper, or caught up in it, it can obviously be very scary.
I think it is partly a product of defunding youth projects, youth clubs, community facilities, sport groups etc, so a whole generation are growing up in a defunded state with little hope or trajectory.
I feel sorry for the shopkeeper. He had been warned. And, frankly, if I was working for a soulless multinational on near-minimum wage, I would in no way stop somebody shoplifting, it's more than my job or health is worth.
Anyway, most importantly from it all, the Clapham Waitrose is a short cycle from me and from the article I now know that the best days for me to go and shoplift are Mondays and Tuesdays when they have no security. Thank for the tipoff! |
Pedants corner, but Waitrose is hardly a soulless multinational |  | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 13:15 - Apr 6 with 725 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 12:12 - Apr 6 by NedPlimpton |
Pedants corner, but Waitrose is hardly a soulless multinational |
Agreed it’s a UK firm, and unlike most retailers they give their employees a share of profits. Should be more companies like that. | | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 21:06 - Apr 6 with 602 views | redrickstuhaart |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:13 - Apr 6 by urbanpenguin |
At the risk of inflating this kind of non-story into something bigger.
and also not to belittle it. Such crowd shoplifting is not new - i saw an interesting interview with some locals who said that while it's horrid, kids of their (two different) generations did similar and had different names for it.
That said, to be a bystander, shopkeeper, or caught up in it, it can obviously be very scary.
I think it is partly a product of defunding youth projects, youth clubs, community facilities, sport groups etc, so a whole generation are growing up in a defunded state with little hope or trajectory.
I feel sorry for the shopkeeper. He had been warned. And, frankly, if I was working for a soulless multinational on near-minimum wage, I would in no way stop somebody shoplifting, it's more than my job or health is worth.
Anyway, most importantly from it all, the Clapham Waitrose is a short cycle from me and from the article I now know that the best days for me to go and shoplift are Mondays and Tuesdays when they have no security. Thank for the tipoff! |
I remember being in London with my Uncle as a kid. At that time "steaming" was a thing. Small gangs of lads piling through the carriages (including the connecting doors) grabbing bags etc and then jumping off at the next stop. | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 23:59 - Apr 6 with 541 views | Vaughan8 |
A few weeks back on Friday evening, some guy did a "trick" on the self service machine.
He put all his items down (maybe even scanned them?), then told the employee he'd forgot something, went back in the shop, presumably waited until this young guy was sorting another customer out or had gone and then came back, picked the items up and walked out.
I know there was a couple of big red bull cans and a couple of other things so nothing too expensive. However, instead of just going away, I saw him, parked in a disabled spot, drinking one of the red bulls before he drove off.
I stupidly (as my wife has pointed out) shouted at him through the window and said, "you know that's so obvious". He basically said "so what?" and drove off.
I did inform the shop but I don't think they really cared. | | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 07:09 - Apr 7 with 411 views | bournemouthblue |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 06:53 - Apr 6 by Benters |
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the feral youth wrecking havoc in Clapham yet?
As for old matey this country has gone bonkers.
Shoplift anything up to £199 you carry on mate,£200 you might get a visit from the police to the store.
Like I said it’s bonkers! |
I'm told the police won't even investigate moped thefts, talk about not nipping things in the bud
A lot of support for Reform over immigration, is really just disillusionment with the police letting a lot of crime fester historically and finding a scapegoat to blame.
You'll hear people say they don't 'feel safe' etc, people don't trust the police any more
The austerity programme has caused a big part of that [Post edited 7 Apr 7:11]
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 07:14 - Apr 7 with 375 views | Benters |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 07:09 - Apr 7 by bournemouthblue |
I'm told the police won't even investigate moped thefts, talk about not nipping things in the bud
A lot of support for Reform over immigration, is really just disillusionment with the police letting a lot of crime fester historically and finding a scapegoat to blame.
You'll hear people say they don't 'feel safe' etc, people don't trust the police any more
The austerity programme has caused a big part of that [Post edited 7 Apr 7:11]
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What a sh1t show isn’t it. | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:13 - Apr 7 with 291 views | Libero |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 01:05 - Apr 6 by Illinoisblue |
It’s all so stupid. With any luck, someone will start a gofundme for him. Stores should taser all shoplifters anyway. |
Supermarkets are enjoying record profits during a cost of living crisis and putting in a wealth of new "loss prevention" measures - if you see someone stealing food, no you didn't. |  | | |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:27 - Apr 7 with 276 views | baxterbasics |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:13 - Apr 7 by Libero |
Supermarkets are enjoying record profits during a cost of living crisis and putting in a wealth of new "loss prevention" measures - if you see someone stealing food, no you didn't. |
On balance of probabilities, and some anecdotal/online evidence, I suspect only a very small proportion of shoplifting is in the "I need it to survive" category carried out by otherwise honest and upstanding citizens. Certainly not when it's overpriced easter eggs or bottles of alcohol being swiped, often by organised gangs.
When I do see a scrawny single mother pocketing some nappies or a small carton of milk, sure, I can see myself looking the other way. Tescos can take that hit. But I don't think that's what we're talking about here. | |
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:52 - Apr 7 with 253 views | Libero |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:27 - Apr 7 by baxterbasics |
On balance of probabilities, and some anecdotal/online evidence, I suspect only a very small proportion of shoplifting is in the "I need it to survive" category carried out by otherwise honest and upstanding citizens. Certainly not when it's overpriced easter eggs or bottles of alcohol being swiped, often by organised gangs.
When I do see a scrawny single mother pocketing some nappies or a small carton of milk, sure, I can see myself looking the other way. Tescos can take that hit. But I don't think that's what we're talking about here. |
Your idea of the worthy poor is irrelevant - especially when you lean into tropes about alcohol and 'organised gangs' and 'scrawny single monthers' (weird)
Ultimately, I don't care about the companies, they're making record profits during a cost of living crisis and are actively exploiting people.
If anyone has sympathy with the company and their needs over that of individual people, that's their prerogative.
Steal 4 bottles of wine and sell them to feed your kids, or directly steal a loaf of bread to feed them, it's whatever - in my personal values it's all one and the same.
I think many people are so far away from that being their personal reality that they find it hard to comprehend without resorting to over the top Robin Hood/Aladdin-esqe stereotypes about robbing "the rich" to give to "the poor" - but there are a lot of people out here struggling to survive day-to-day. [Post edited 7 Apr 11:55]
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| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:55 - Apr 7 with 225 views | giant_stow |
| In "this is not a serious country" news on 11:52 - Apr 7 by Libero |
Your idea of the worthy poor is irrelevant - especially when you lean into tropes about alcohol and 'organised gangs' and 'scrawny single monthers' (weird)
Ultimately, I don't care about the companies, they're making record profits during a cost of living crisis and are actively exploiting people.
If anyone has sympathy with the company and their needs over that of individual people, that's their prerogative.
Steal 4 bottles of wine and sell them to feed your kids, or directly steal a loaf of bread to feed them, it's whatever - in my personal values it's all one and the same.
I think many people are so far away from that being their personal reality that they find it hard to comprehend without resorting to over the top Robin Hood/Aladdin-esqe stereotypes about robbing "the rich" to give to "the poor" - but there are a lot of people out here struggling to survive day-to-day. [Post edited 7 Apr 11:55]
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(sorry, just as a side comment...)
One that shocked me locally - our Tesco Metro now has these little clear plastic slidey cover things over things like pots of jam or large bags of chocolate. I think the idea is that you can't swipe the whole shelf in one go, but the fact that people are trying that is very revealing I think - it's not just booze or meat. |  |
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