| Ashton 10:34 - Apr 17 with 2973 views | hype313 |
Normally this time of year when it comes to ST's he does interviews talking about the reasoning's, benefits, future plans etc.
But he has been completely absent, he's all over the media when there is good news or projects being done, but nothing.
Just looks to me like someone who is happy to take the plaudits when things go well, but doesn't have the gravtias to front up when difficult conversations are needed.
What's happened to the Early Bird offer? has that been kyboshed along with points in the club shop that suddenly disappeared.
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| Ashton on 12:58 - Apr 17 with 730 views | Guthrum |
| Ashton on 12:49 - Apr 17 by Illinoisblue |
If he does get canned, mutually agreed or otherwise, he’ll spend the rest of his life wondering why he threw away the best job he ever had, that paid him millions, that allowed him to personally shape and oversee the future of a top 25 club in England, all for a five minute lunch with a shameless grifter charlatan. |
I think a lot of the fans will be left wondering that as well.
I know many derided his occasionally bombastic business-speak style, but nothing I can see in his admin background (club-community involvement, inclusivity, promoting women's football), or his evident passion in the role gives pointers towards Ashton being a die-hard Faragist prepared to sacrifice everything for the cause.
It just seems like a really weird thing firstly to do, then to attempt - badly - to cover up. Doesn't mesh with his efficiency, either (which he normally is, by all evidence ITFC is a tightly run ship). |  |
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| Ashton on 13:01 - Apr 17 with 701 views | Blueschev |
| Ashton on 12:49 - Apr 17 by Illinoisblue |
If he does get canned, mutually agreed or otherwise, he’ll spend the rest of his life wondering why he threw away the best job he ever had, that paid him millions, that allowed him to personally shape and oversee the future of a top 25 club in England, all for a five minute lunch with a shameless grifter charlatan. |
The only conclusion I can come to is that he is clearly a Reform supporter, and his ego led him to believe that he could treat the club as though it is his and he could host who he pleased. |  | | |
| Ashton on 13:02 - Apr 17 with 704 views | Mullet |
| Ashton on 12:58 - Apr 17 by Guthrum |
I think a lot of the fans will be left wondering that as well.
I know many derided his occasionally bombastic business-speak style, but nothing I can see in his admin background (club-community involvement, inclusivity, promoting women's football), or his evident passion in the role gives pointers towards Ashton being a die-hard Faragist prepared to sacrifice everything for the cause.
It just seems like a really weird thing firstly to do, then to attempt - badly - to cover up. Doesn't mesh with his efficiency, either (which he normally is, by all evidence ITFC is a tightly run ship). |
Got starstruck is my guess. Thought he could hobnob with someone famous and powerful and got carried away. That, or he’s got fascist tendencies and is a reform type and can get f@&ked as far as I’m concerned. |  |
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| Ashton on 13:05 - Apr 17 with 683 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| Ashton on 11:45 - Apr 17 by Reuser_is_God |
To be fair no one should be basing their ST renewal on what division we are in. |
Not sure I agree with this.
I'm not talking about fan loyalty, but if we're not promoted there will be plenty of match tickets available next season for those who can't attend every match. |  | | |
| Ashton on 13:08 - Apr 17 with 666 views | Zx1988 |
The whole thing has been incredibly 'effort free' compared to previous seasons. No brochure, no comment/sales pitch from Ashton/McKenna, no pithy slogan. Just a price list and a four-day deadline.
I suppose they could have gone for something like #GiveUsYourF***ingMoney, or #REWARDINGourselvesforyourLOYALTY? | |
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| Ashton on 13:10 - Apr 17 with 650 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Ashton on 13:02 - Apr 17 by Mullet |
Got starstruck is my guess. Thought he could hobnob with someone famous and powerful and got carried away. That, or he’s got fascist tendencies and is a reform type and can get f@&ked as far as I’m concerned. |
I think that's likely. He's always been desperate to stick his tongue up the arse of anyone with a bit of celebrity. |  | | |
| Ashton on 13:12 - Apr 17 with 623 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| Ashton on 13:08 - Apr 17 by Zx1988 |
The whole thing has been incredibly 'effort free' compared to previous seasons. No brochure, no comment/sales pitch from Ashton/McKenna, no pithy slogan. Just a price list and a four-day deadline.
I suppose they could have gone for something like #GiveUsYourF***ingMoney, or #REWARDINGourselvesforyourLOYALTY? |
Yeah, talk about being taken for granted.
It feels a bit like when you get your council tax demand through the post, although at least they attempt to explain what the money is being spent on. | | | |
| Ashton on 13:24 - Apr 17 with 572 views | Guthrum |
| Ashton on 13:02 - Apr 17 by Mullet |
Got starstruck is my guess. Thought he could hobnob with someone famous and powerful and got carried away. That, or he’s got fascist tendencies and is a reform type and can get f@&ked as far as I’m concerned. |
Maybe, but it seems an odd choice of famous and powerful person to hobnob with.
Then there's the ham-fistedness of allowing the photo-op, the initial denial and the half-apology. If he'd come straight out and said discussions were held over lunch with Reform about the Football Regulator (edit: which is what Reform themselves have said), there would have been half the fuss. Still many people not impressed, but less rage over the attempted duping of the fans.
It just seems very out of character. The fallings-out with Watford and Bristol were about a salary dispute, overpayment on poor transfers and a managerial appointment which didn't work out. Nothing like this.
All very odd. Perhaps he is a Faragist who's managed to hide it well up to this point? [Post edited 17 Apr 13:25]
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| Ashton on 13:36 - Apr 17 with 521 views | Illinoisblue |
| Ashton on 12:58 - Apr 17 by Guthrum |
I think a lot of the fans will be left wondering that as well.
I know many derided his occasionally bombastic business-speak style, but nothing I can see in his admin background (club-community involvement, inclusivity, promoting women's football), or his evident passion in the role gives pointers towards Ashton being a die-hard Faragist prepared to sacrifice everything for the cause.
It just seems like a really weird thing firstly to do, then to attempt - badly - to cover up. Doesn't mesh with his efficiency, either (which he normally is, by all evidence ITFC is a tightly run ship). |
I am reminded of the scene from the Office when a tearful Brent is begging for Neil to not make him redundant. |  |
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| Ashton on 13:37 - Apr 17 with 522 views | backwaywhen |
| Ashton on 13:24 - Apr 17 by Guthrum |
Maybe, but it seems an odd choice of famous and powerful person to hobnob with.
Then there's the ham-fistedness of allowing the photo-op, the initial denial and the half-apology. If he'd come straight out and said discussions were held over lunch with Reform about the Football Regulator (edit: which is what Reform themselves have said), there would have been half the fuss. Still many people not impressed, but less rage over the attempted duping of the fans.
It just seems very out of character. The fallings-out with Watford and Bristol were about a salary dispute, overpayment on poor transfers and a managerial appointment which didn't work out. Nothing like this.
All very odd. Perhaps he is a Faragist who's managed to hide it well up to this point? [Post edited 17 Apr 13:25]
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Who really cares, it was always just a storm in a tea cup event , outrage by a few and a shoulder shrug by the majority .
In all honesty it has died a death after 2 weeks just as I predicted.
Uppa Towen. | | | |
| Ashton on 13:40 - Apr 17 with 510 views | Blueschev |
| Ashton on 13:36 - Apr 17 by Illinoisblue |
I am reminded of the scene from the Office when a tearful Brent is begging for Neil to not make him redundant. |
If you want the rainbow, you have to put up with the rain. Do you know what "philosopher" said that? | | | |
| Ashton on 13:50 - Apr 17 with 482 views | Guthrum |
| Ashton on 13:37 - Apr 17 by backwaywhen |
Who really cares, it was always just a storm in a tea cup event , outrage by a few and a shoulder shrug by the majority .
In all honesty it has died a death after 2 weeks just as I predicted.
Uppa Towen. |
We shall see on that. It has changed the way many people view the Chairman/CEO. Which will affect how the club interfaces with fans. | |
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| Ashton on 13:52 - Apr 17 with 478 views | Coastalblue |
| Ashton on 13:37 - Apr 17 by backwaywhen |
Who really cares, it was always just a storm in a tea cup event , outrage by a few and a shoulder shrug by the majority .
In all honesty it has died a death after 2 weeks just as I predicted.
Uppa Towen. |
Far from it, the next instalment won't hit before the end of the season but I would be very, very surprised to see Mr Ashton still in situ in August.
He certainly won't be the face of the Club again, that's for sure, it's doing the opposite of dying a death. |  |
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| Ashton on 13:56 - Apr 17 with 469 views | Mullet |
| Ashton on 13:37 - Apr 17 by backwaywhen |
Who really cares, it was always just a storm in a tea cup event , outrage by a few and a shoulder shrug by the majority .
In all honesty it has died a death after 2 weeks just as I predicted.
Uppa Towen. |
Except it hasn’t. Lots of people care some very powerful/invested in the club. Just because you couldn’t give a toss, dismissing those that do and care about the club not just the results doesn’t make you Nostradamus. | |
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| Ashton on 16:39 - Apr 17 with 372 views | Benters |
| Ashton on 12:35 - Apr 17 by Libero |
Weird, I thought the only people upset were 12 people on TWTD! |
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| Ashton on 17:17 - Apr 17 with 344 views | skinnybob72 |
| Ashton on 13:08 - Apr 17 by Zx1988 |
The whole thing has been incredibly 'effort free' compared to previous seasons. No brochure, no comment/sales pitch from Ashton/McKenna, no pithy slogan. Just a price list and a four-day deadline.
I suppose they could have gone for something like #GiveUsYourF***ingMoney, or #REWARDINGourselvesforyourLOYALTY? |
Gamechanger moving into the 'rinsing phase' of their ownership?
They've taken the club from nowhere to sell outs most weeks, home and away, record shirt sales and brought a feelgood factor to Portman Road.
Now it's time to make some serious cash. | | | |
| Ashton on 20:33 - Apr 17 with 244 views | Guthrum |
| Ashton on 17:17 - Apr 17 by skinnybob72 |
Gamechanger moving into the 'rinsing phase' of their ownership?
They've taken the club from nowhere to sell outs most weeks, home and away, record shirt sales and brought a feelgood factor to Portman Road.
Now it's time to make some serious cash. |
Putting 12% on ticket sales is not making 'serious cash'.
Even taking last season's Prem numbers for ticket sales (season and matchday) of £28.98m - more than double the season before in the Champ - a 12% increase adds a measly £3.48m. Small change when compared with the sums of money being put in by the major investors and recent valuations of the club. | |
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| Ashton on 20:47 - Apr 17 with 224 views | Zx1988 |
| Ashton on 20:33 - Apr 17 by Guthrum |
Putting 12% on ticket sales is not making 'serious cash'.
Even taking last season's Prem numbers for ticket sales (season and matchday) of £28.98m - more than double the season before in the Champ - a 12% increase adds a measly £3.48m. Small change when compared with the sums of money being put in by the major investors and recent valuations of the club. |
It's all money on the bottom line, though, which you can then multiply when it comes to valuing the club for a sale.
At a 10% yield that's an extra £34.8m, and that's before you take into account that STs have increased in price by an average of 40% under GC.
That's a £9.27m increase per annum, and over £90m onto the value of the club at 10%. | |
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| Ashton on 21:57 - Apr 17 with 182 views | algy |
| Ashton on 20:47 - Apr 17 by Zx1988 |
It's all money on the bottom line, though, which you can then multiply when it comes to valuing the club for a sale.
At a 10% yield that's an extra £34.8m, and that's before you take into account that STs have increased in price by an average of 40% under GC.
That's a £9.27m increase per annum, and over £90m onto the value of the club at 10%. |
Agreed, none of the owners that have invested in us are with us for glory, getting back to the prem is about increasing the value of the club for when they sell their bit or part of it for profit on their investment, as one of them did last year. Increasing season ticket prices may look to be bringing relatively small amounts but it all counts towards the fundamental objective of increasing the value of the club for selling. It's the only way they'll get the return on the investment they're here for. | |
| Never forget that on 7th. April 2021, for ITFC, the Game Changed. |
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| Ashton on 22:36 - Apr 17 with 129 views | football |
| Ashton on 11:26 - Apr 17 by Mullet |
I dunno, given what I’ve heard in the past week he might be kept away as much as possible. Sounds like the furore has not blown over behind the scenes at all. |
Really? I dont think this is the case personally. | | | |
| Ashton on 22:49 - Apr 17 with 109 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Ashton on 20:33 - Apr 17 by Guthrum |
Putting 12% on ticket sales is not making 'serious cash'.
Even taking last season's Prem numbers for ticket sales (season and matchday) of £28.98m - more than double the season before in the Champ - a 12% increase adds a measly £3.48m. Small change when compared with the sums of money being put in by the major investors and recent valuations of the club. |
You’re way out on ticket sales. It was ~£11M. | | | |
| Ashton on 22:50 - Apr 17 with 103 views | backwaywhen |
| Ashton on 22:36 - Apr 17 by football |
Really? I dont think this is the case personally. |
Don’t forget there are certain people on here who know far more than the rest of us ……supposedly. | | | |
| Ashton on 23:17 - Apr 17 with 72 views | patrickswell |
Just on the point people make about not seeing Ashton during tough times last season or this season…erm…..what did you expect him to do exactly?
There isn’t a single thing he could have said which would have turned the second half of last season around. Do you really want the CEO coming out and saying, “In my view, the manager should have done this…” That would have helped things no end, wouldn’t it.
And tough times this season? If we leave aside his own monumental error of judgement, just how “tough” has this season been? Inconsistent, I grant you, but tough? Only, if you’re one of those looking at Coventry and stamping your foot that we haven’t done what they have. And if the inconsistency drives you mad, what would Ashton say to make that better?
He’s tried to do what he’s always said he’d done. Do his job to the best of his ability and give others around him the time and space to do their job. I’m sure there are discussions at all levels of the club, and if there are things to be improved I’m sure he makes sure that people know about it, but at the very least, he’s tried not to undermine McKenna or anyone else in public.
It is just a crying shame that he’s soiled things with the Farage affair. Trust has been broken, and that can’t go on indefinitely. |  | | |
| Ashton on 00:11 - Apr 18 with 38 views | Whos_blue |
| Ashton on 13:50 - Apr 17 by Guthrum |
We shall see on that. It has changed the way many people view the Chairman/CEO. Which will affect how the club interfaces with fans. |
Right up until the visit I wholeheartedly believed in Ashton.
Not quite blind faith but I accept with hindsight, some naivety.
After the demoralising Evans years, Ashton did so much right to get this club moving again. If he stays, there's every probability he'll continue to do so.
Howevet, one inexplicable bad decision later, followed by a lie and a non - apology have broken that belief. Probably irreparably.
Trust is such an important and powerful principle.
Ashton has changed how I feel about the club.
His actions have somehow changed the fan base too. We've always had left, right and centrists here, but the glut of emboldened reform supporters, often first time posters flooding this place post visit shook me. Suddenly it feels my politics free safe haven, where the only thing on match day was supporting Town, is slipping away.
I heard chatter on the terraces I hadn't heard before and that has changed how I feel about the club.
For some to brush it off as a storm in a tea cup is very disingenuous. I fear it's only said by those who support the politics of Farage et al. Judging the chatter and a couple of chants I heard in the NSL during Brum, it seems there is a surge towards Farage, and my personal politics and principles couldn't be much further away, leaving me to ponder if it's somewhere I really want to be anymore.
Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the visit, the damage it has caused cannot be underestimated.
That is on Ashton. |  |
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