| Polanski on 15:08 - May 6 with 959 views | baxterbasics |
| Polanski on 14:32 - May 6 by GlasgowBlue |
What I take away from this thread, and views I’ve seen on other media, is that those who would be considered as genuine greens and people who concerned about the environment aren’t particular enamoured by Polanski. Whereas those who were attracted to the left wing popularism of Corbyn are more attracted to him and the current trajectory of the Green Party. |
They are playing the regional game like Lib Dems used to do quite effectively.
Genuine old school Greens are still there in the rural areas (like Suffolk). Harmless.
But in the cities - yikes, Corbynite lefties have taken over in force. |  |
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| Polanski on 15:17 - May 6 with 913 views | DJR |
| Polanski on 14:32 - May 6 by GlasgowBlue |
What I take away from this thread, and views I’ve seen on other media, is that those who would be considered as genuine greens and people who concerned about the environment aren’t particular enamoured by Polanski. Whereas those who were attracted to the left wing popularism of Corbyn are more attracted to him and the current trajectory of the Green Party. |
I suppose it depends on what you mean by genuine Greens but the Green Part hovered at around 60,000 members for years until the upsurge to 220,000 since Polanski was elected, and he got 84% of the vote, admittedly on a turnout of only 37%.
Maybe some of those do now have buyer's remorse but it is interesting to note that Your Party was formed during the leadership campaign, and had it not been the fiasco it has turned out to be maybe the Greens wouldn't have benefited so much from people you describe.
Interestingly, I know a couple, one of whom was a Green Party member, the other a Labour Party member, and during an election campaign where he stood and the Greens gave assistance to the campaign, I remember him saying that he couldn't be a Green member like his wife because he couldn't make the sort of sacrifices (eg. on travel) that he thought would be required. That's my view too. [Post edited 6 May 16:30]
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| Polanski on 15:36 - May 6 with 852 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Polanski on 11:58 - May 6 by lowhouseblue |
with the exception of farage, those sorts of attention seeking personalities tend to flitter around the public face of parties rather than ever become leader - you think of kilroy silk, or jeffrey archer, or cyril smith. generally over time the baggage they acquire pulls them down. i guess polanski came out of nowhere and wasn't previously taken seriously and so people are now seeing him for the first time. |
So is Ed Davey is the wrong sort of attention seeking leader because while he did become leader of a party, and then lead that party to its best ever GE results in terms of seats in 2024, he's not someone the papers can get their teeth into?
(Yes I know their % of GE vote share has dropped since 2010, but in 2024 it did, strangely, nearly match the % of seats won) |  |
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| Polanski on 15:50 - May 6 with 789 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Polanski on 15:08 - May 6 by baxterbasics |
They are playing the regional game like Lib Dems used to do quite effectively.
Genuine old school Greens are still there in the rural areas (like Suffolk). Harmless.
But in the cities - yikes, Corbynite lefties have taken over in force. |
Exhibit A for your final sentence.
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| Polanski on 15:51 - May 6 with 782 views | BlueSmoke |
In my very humble opinion, anyone voting for Dave the tit wizard needs their fcuking head read. |  | | |
| Polanski on 15:51 - May 6 with 771 views | Benters |
| Polanski on 15:51 - May 6 by BlueSmoke |
In my very humble opinion, anyone voting for Dave the tit wizard needs their fcuking head read. |
This. |  |
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| Polanski on 15:56 - May 6 with 753 views | Dubtractor |
| Polanski on 15:08 - May 6 by baxterbasics |
They are playing the regional game like Lib Dems used to do quite effectively.
Genuine old school Greens are still there in the rural areas (like Suffolk). Harmless.
But in the cities - yikes, Corbynite lefties have taken over in force. |
I think this is fair.
Im someone who has voted green before, and prefer my politics left of centre, but despite lots of well intended policy from Polanski and Corbyn previously they both attract people that should be nowhere near any kind of political influence. The same as Farage and Reform do. |  |
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| Polanski on 16:52 - May 6 with 621 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Polanski on 08:24 - May 6 by NthQldITFC |
The establishment seems to be terrified of the Green Party all of a sudden.
The awful, terrible threat of a group which strives to create a more equal, environmentally sustainable Britain and to implement a more ethical foreign policy understandably scares the sh!t out of right-minded business as usual types.
It remains to be seen, when the Green Party have got to grips - as they and all other political parties must do - with any antisemitism, racism or other prejudice, whether the establishment will relax a bit more and embrace progressive politics, or try to find some other way to clamp down hard to maintain the status quo and the path to oblivion. |
What we're seeing now (as we did from 2015-2019) is a case of playing the man, not the ball. Because their policies are (with some notable exceptions) quite popular, those who are terrified of a bit of social democracy are left with having to relentlessly try and discredit the individuals in the party.
Personally I am more interested in a party's policies and what they're going to do for the people of the country than the people leading the party - there are scoundrels and scumbags in all of them - the current Prime Minister lied to his own party membership to get elected as leader for a start. |  | | |
| Polanski on 17:00 - May 6 with 590 views | urbanpenguin |
| Polanski on 15:08 - May 6 by baxterbasics |
They are playing the regional game like Lib Dems used to do quite effectively.
Genuine old school Greens are still there in the rural areas (like Suffolk). Harmless.
But in the cities - yikes, Corbynite lefties have taken over in force. |
They haven't though. The Green constitution and way decisions are made is such that it cannot be taken over in that way, and certainly not in a few weeks or months. It's is so painfully democratic that it is slow and everything emerges through conversation.
Yes, many paper applicants have said stupid things, and when hateful or antisemitic should obviously be kicked out. I would still venture that it's far fewer than the Islamaphobia, transphobia, homophobia and other hate coming from many Reform paper ballot applicants - not that this makes one more right than the other.
The Green membership has shot up, that has put huge strain on much internal logistics and things like this take time to organise with recruitment and processes. One of these is 100% vetting for candidates (both in target seats and paper ballots), and the party have said as much.
Some of these new members are for sure those who have left Labour at some point as it was not left enough for them, and I also suspect that many of these will leave the Greens within a year when they realise they simply cannot take over or implement change at the pace they wish.
Some paper ballot applicants (from Greens and Reform) will win, I am sure. But overwhelmingly more genuine candidates, whether recent members or longstanding, will win seats in local councils and despite what certain media like to project I cannot see it bringing the end of the world, as it hasn't in Suffolk, Bristol, Brighton or other places. [Post edited 6 May 17:03]
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| Polanski on 17:03 - May 6 with 574 views | bartyg |
| Polanski on 14:32 - May 6 by GlasgowBlue |
What I take away from this thread, and views I’ve seen on other media, is that those who would be considered as genuine greens and people who concerned about the environment aren’t particular enamoured by Polanski. Whereas those who were attracted to the left wing popularism of Corbyn are more attracted to him and the current trajectory of the Green Party. |
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| Polanski on 17:03 - May 6 with 561 views | NthQldITFC |
| Polanski on 16:52 - May 6 by Clapham_Junction |
What we're seeing now (as we did from 2015-2019) is a case of playing the man, not the ball. Because their policies are (with some notable exceptions) quite popular, those who are terrified of a bit of social democracy are left with having to relentlessly try and discredit the individuals in the party.
Personally I am more interested in a party's policies and what they're going to do for the people of the country than the people leading the party - there are scoundrels and scumbags in all of them - the current Prime Minister lied to his own party membership to get elected as leader for a start. |
Very, very, very well said.
Social democracy is the only viable future for our species.
Fcukwit business-as-usual apologist dinosaurs are for the evolutionary scrap heap. |  |
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| Polanski on 17:13 - May 6 with 522 views | urbanpenguin |
| Polanski on 17:03 - May 6 by NthQldITFC |
Very, very, very well said.
Social democracy is the only viable future for our species.
Fcukwit business-as-usual apologist dinosaurs are for the evolutionary scrap heap. |
Not to mention that the kinds of things the Greens are talking about are really not that left wing in any meaningful sense of the term, and in most European countries would be considered slightly left of centre and standard for mainstream parties including those in government.
But in the UK, where media tycoons have pushed the Overton Window so far to the right, pretty normal things like "tax the rich more" or "help drug users not rely on the black market and support their recovery" are seen as some kind of wacky Leninist ideal. | | | |
| Polanski on 17:15 - May 6 with 514 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Polanski on 12:05 - May 6 by Herbivore |
My take, Polanski has said and done some daft things that make me have question marks over his character. However, this holds true of pretty much all of the leaders of the current political parties in England. What is interesting is the traction, the amplifying, and the vitriol that comes with every grain of dirt dug up on a left wing leader. Last week the BBC didn't have anything up on Farage's undeclared £5m donation on their main news pages after the story had broken. They rarely give the main headlines to the various shadiness he's involved in or the scandals that continually hit his party and their candidates.
I think it's quite telling how terrified the media and the wealthy establishment are of left wing politics. Left wing politics is a threat to them in a way that right wing politics isn't. The establishment in the UK would sooner pivot to extreme right wing parties like Reform than tolerate a left of centre political party getting close to power. That's because ultimately the likes of Reform fully intend to keep lining the pockets of the wealthy and they'll throw in a healthy dose of eroding workers' rights and general protection of human rights to boot. The price to pay? Just a bit of demonising foreign folk and the speeding up of the erosion of the fabric of the country. Worth is to keep the grift going.
So in short, it seems Polanski is a bit of a berk. Personally, the Greens are the party most closely aligned to my own politics so I'll probably vote for them because I tend to vote for the party rather than the leader. But people really should also question why every tiny bone on every skeleton in Polanski's closet gets pored over in a way that doesn't happen to really dangerous leaders like Farage. And if people are joining in the amplification then that's their choice but they should reflect on why they're doing it (to such a great extent) and whose interests it serves. Basically, it can be true that Polanski is a bit of an eejit and that this is something of a witch-hunt, it's not an either/or situation. |
Very good post.
Sadly those trawling up every bit of history they can have little such insight.
Hope they all enjoy a Farage govt |  | | |
| Polanski on 17:15 - May 6 with 511 views | DJR |
| Polanski on 15:50 - May 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Exhibit A for your final sentence.
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I don't know about you but that image with the blacked out eyes etc looks antisemitic to me (the hidden hand of a Jew controlling bad things), even if the tweet is against antisemitism, which I assume it is, even though I can't access it because I am not on X. [Post edited 6 May 17:26]
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| Polanski on 17:19 - May 6 with 496 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Polanski on 11:31 - May 6 by lowhouseblue |
oh no, are people being nasty about the middle classes. they have to suffer so much.
it's only one narrow bit of the middle class that may overlap with the current greens (who now have next to nothing to do with environmentalism).
perhaps your'e muddling middle class with performative social justice signallers? |
Performative social justice signallers!!
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| Polanski on 17:28 - May 6 with 457 views | giant_stow |
| Polanski on 17:19 - May 6 by reusersfreekicks |
Performative social justice signallers!!
WTAF |
I wouldn't want to ban the peace marches, but do wonder what they actually achieve (other than making the attendees feel like they're doing something about an issue). |  |
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| Polanski on 17:30 - May 6 with 448 views | Dubtractor |
| Polanski on 15:56 - May 6 by Dubtractor |
I think this is fair.
Im someone who has voted green before, and prefer my politics left of centre, but despite lots of well intended policy from Polanski and Corbyn previously they both attract people that should be nowhere near any kind of political influence. The same as Farage and Reform do. |
Another example of the scum that farage attracts. I think it is interesting that a lot of centrist types seem more interested in piling in on Polanski and his supporters, than they do for Farage and his ilk.....
A Reform UK candidate sent messages mocking disabled residents as “ponces of society,” "lazy c****" and "skanks" with “made up ailments" while mocking their appearance.
He boasted to one recipient that reporting his conduct to the party would be ineffective because he is “a board member for Reform" — Adam Bienkov (@adambienkov.bsky.social) 2026-05-06T16:22:38.847Z
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| Polanski on 17:30 - May 6 with 445 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Polanski on 12:13 - May 6 by lowhouseblue |
to summarise: polanski is a bit of a berk - vote green - and the press are being very mean by focusing of his proven lack of judgement, but look at farage. |
Like you said look at Harris when others were warning of Trump. | | | |
| Polanski on 17:35 - May 6 with 415 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Polanski on 15:51 - May 6 by Benters |
This. |
Yep not nearly racist enough for you. | | | |
| Polanski on 17:36 - May 6 with 411 views | NthQldITFC |
| Polanski on 17:28 - May 6 by giant_stow |
I wouldn't want to ban the peace marches, but do wonder what they actually achieve (other than making the attendees feel like they're doing something about an issue). |
You have to keep trying Ullaa, for the sake of every Palestinian, every Jew every human being on this planet. We can't let System destroy People. | |
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| Polanski on 17:36 - May 6 with 410 views | giant_stow |
| Polanski on 17:30 - May 6 by Dubtractor |
Another example of the scum that farage attracts. I think it is interesting that a lot of centrist types seem more interested in piling in on Polanski and his supporters, than they do for Farage and his ilk.....
A Reform UK candidate sent messages mocking disabled residents as “ponces of society,” "lazy c****" and "skanks" with “made up ailments" while mocking their appearance.
He boasted to one recipient that reporting his conduct to the party would be ineffective because he is “a board member for Reform" — Adam Bienkov (@adambienkov.bsky.social) 2026-05-06T16:22:38.847Z
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I can only speak for myself on that, but its a given that Reform are racist good-for-nothing haters and doesn't really need repeating. Whereas Its sad and desperate when a party of the left is infected by racism. | |
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| Polanski on 17:37 - May 6 with 409 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Polanski on 17:30 - May 6 by Dubtractor |
Another example of the scum that farage attracts. I think it is interesting that a lot of centrist types seem more interested in piling in on Polanski and his supporters, than they do for Farage and his ilk.....
A Reform UK candidate sent messages mocking disabled residents as “ponces of society,” "lazy c****" and "skanks" with “made up ailments" while mocking their appearance.
He boasted to one recipient that reporting his conduct to the party would be ineffective because he is “a board member for Reform" — Adam Bienkov (@adambienkov.bsky.social) 2026-05-06T16:22:38.847Z
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Centre/centre right I would say.
They don't much care for Farage and his bunch of racists and anti semites but would far prefer them to the Greens.
Basically Hate not Hope [Post edited 6 May 23:46]
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| Polanski on 17:39 - May 6 with 402 views | DJR |
| Polanski on 17:30 - May 6 by Dubtractor |
Another example of the scum that farage attracts. I think it is interesting that a lot of centrist types seem more interested in piling in on Polanski and his supporters, than they do for Farage and his ilk.....
A Reform UK candidate sent messages mocking disabled residents as “ponces of society,” "lazy c****" and "skanks" with “made up ailments" while mocking their appearance.
He boasted to one recipient that reporting his conduct to the party would be ineffective because he is “a board member for Reform" — Adam Bienkov (@adambienkov.bsky.social) 2026-05-06T16:22:38.847Z
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There's a lot more than that but as I mentioned above the entire political and media establishment has given Farage a free ride in its desperation to attack Polanski.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/202 [Post edited 6 May 17:40]
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| Polanski on 17:40 - May 6 with 393 views | giant_stow |
| Polanski on 17:36 - May 6 by NthQldITFC |
You have to keep trying Ullaa, for the sake of every Palestinian, every Jew every human being on this planet. We can't let System destroy People. |
Fair enough Nth. | |
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