| Polanski on 09:46 - May 2 with 323 views | Herbivore |
| Polanski on 21:39 - May 1 by Swansea_Blue |
This is what concerns me too, that to be a genuine option parties like the Greens have to remove much of what makes them interesting and different in the first place. For all the UK public’s talk of wanting change, I’ve seen little evidence they do. We’re a deeply conservative (small c) country more interested in the change of character of a political leader than proper ideological/policy changes. |
There's offen a majority of support for left-wing policy initiatives but the wealthy media and political elites do an excellent job of convincing the public that actually bringing about greater equality and shifting power from the wealthy to the majority would actually be entirely ruinous. |  |
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| Polanski on 09:48 - May 2 with 314 views | waveneyblue |
| Polanski on 09:45 - May 2 by wrightsrightglove |
I’ve achieved this from you chucking out statements without being able to back them up in any way, shape or form. That’s incredibly telling and says an awful lot about you [Post edited 2 May 9:54]
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Thank you again.
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| Polanski on 09:49 - May 2 with 308 views | Herbivore |
| Polanski on 23:14 - May 1 by baxterbasics |
Nobody in their right mind.
The Greens used to be a well intentioned (if a little naive) environmental movement. A bit eccentric but harmless. Cuddly even.
Now they’ve absorbed (been hijacked by?) all the Corbynite outcasts that were too extreme for Starmers’ Labour. So now it’s full of commie cranks, rainbow haired weirdos and Jihadists.
I see expensive village/country cottages with Green signage outside and can only laugh. They’ll only have themselves to blame when their car is outlawed and home nationalised to house refugees. |
That tinfoil hat looks good on you. | |
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| Polanski on 09:51 - May 2 with 297 views | waveneyblue |
| Polanski on 09:49 - May 2 by Herbivore |
That tinfoil hat looks good on you. |
Thanks for turning up, you were one of the last names on my Green Party TWTD bingo card.
House! | | | |
| Polanski on 09:53 - May 2 with 290 views | Herbivore |
| Polanski on 08:30 - May 2 by Benters |
The Green Party is more worried about Palestine than it is Manchester. |
Reform are more worried about Russia and the US than they are about plebs like you, but you'll still give them your vote. | |
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| Polanski on 09:54 - May 2 with 293 views | NthQldITFC |
| Polanski on 21:55 - May 1 by GlasgowBlue |
That is an international issue. These are local elections. |
Do you seriously expect the Greens to stop doing what every other party does? Are these not different standards? |  |
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| Polanski on 09:54 - May 2 with 293 views | StokieBlue |
| Polanski on 09:51 - May 2 by waveneyblue |
Thanks for turning up, you were one of the last names on my Green Party TWTD bingo card.
House! |
You don't think belittling the views of other people in the way you are in this thread is more of a problem than people supporting those views?
It's really not a good look in my opinion.
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| Polanski on 09:55 - May 2 with 285 views | MattinLondon |
By say this I’m not replying to anyone individually but collectively there’s a lot of strange replies on this thread.
I like many Green Party policies but worry how such policies will be paid for - possibly come the next election they will need to get more serious and explain fully how things will be paid for. But this isn’t just a Green Party issue - In my opinion all national mainstream manifestos should be independently costed by some apolitical organisation. If they don’t add up then they are not allowed to be costed.
Not sure why many are slurring them with the tag that they will ruin the economy - in modern times both Labour and the Tories have done just that but their supporters always go running back to them.
At the moment, the Greens seem to be on the level of Reform type of populism but without the racism or xenophobia I think I can get behind the Greens. |  | | |
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| Polanski on 09:55 - May 2 with 285 views | ipswichtown1982 |
| Polanski on 09:43 - May 2 by StokieBlue |
Where have I said I agree with MMT? Bit outrageous to say "fooling people like you" when I've not commented on it and you know absolutely nothing about me New Poster.
It's also interesting that you seemingly have joined the forum just to post on this thread. All your posting history is exclusively in this thread.
"Fanning the flames of those who feel Oppressed by not being able to operate in our current societal set up"
Wow. If you are feeling oppressed or you don't like the way the country is being run or the political options available then it's because you're unable to operate in the current social setup.
That's a pretty horrible stance and quite telling.
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All the characteristic vitriol, unkindness and paranoia of the far left in one post. You should calm down a bit, old boy. But thanks for proving my point [Post edited 2 May 9:58]
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| Polanski on 09:57 - May 2 with 278 views | ipswichtown1982 |
| Polanski on 09:55 - May 2 by MattinLondon |
By say this I’m not replying to anyone individually but collectively there’s a lot of strange replies on this thread.
I like many Green Party policies but worry how such policies will be paid for - possibly come the next election they will need to get more serious and explain fully how things will be paid for. But this isn’t just a Green Party issue - In my opinion all national mainstream manifestos should be independently costed by some apolitical organisation. If they don’t add up then they are not allowed to be costed.
Not sure why many are slurring them with the tag that they will ruin the economy - in modern times both Labour and the Tories have done just that but their supporters always go running back to them.
At the moment, the Greens seem to be on the level of Reform type of populism but without the racism or xenophobia I think I can get behind the Greens. |
They will be paid for by creating more money. Because… MMT | | | |
| Polanski on 09:59 - May 2 with 271 views | StokieBlue |
| Polanski on 09:55 - May 2 by ipswichtown1982 |
All the characteristic vitriol, unkindness and paranoia of the far left in one post. You should calm down a bit, old boy. But thanks for proving my point [Post edited 2 May 9:58]
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Crickey, you think that's vitriolic given the stuff you've been posting? It was a post which was factual and engaged with your points.
In contrast, your post doesn't engage with any of points and falls back on the narrative you've been pushing all thread which is rather unpleasant.
You better go report into HQ, I am sure they will be happy with your work.
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| Polanski on 10:00 - May 2 with 259 views | NthQldITFC |
| Polanski on 08:52 - May 2 by GlasgowBlue |
He seems to change his mind and apologise quite a lot don’t you think? |
Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing? | |
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| Polanski on 10:02 - May 2 with 251 views | waveneyblue |
| Polanski on 09:54 - May 2 by StokieBlue |
You don't think belittling the views of other people in the way you are in this thread is more of a problem than people supporting those views?
It's really not a good look in my opinion.
SB |
Not really,
Supporting lunatic political groups isnt a good look in my opinion either. | | | |
| Polanski on 10:03 - May 2 with 250 views | StokieBlue |
| Polanski on 10:02 - May 2 by waveneyblue |
Not really,
Supporting lunatic political groups isnt a good look in my opinion either. |
You'll be doing the same to the Reform supporters then?
Good stuff.
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| Polanski on 10:04 - May 2 with 247 views | CoachRob |
| Polanski on 09:35 - May 2 by ipswichtown1982 |
Being in charge of an economy requires an understanding of how it operates. Fundamental. Extolling MMT as a serious option is unserious policy. The guy is a populist. And he’s very dangerous imho. He seems to be fooling people like you into thinking this party is a serious option. Fanning the flames of those who feel Oppressed by not being able to operate in our current societal set up. Classic tactics. Dangerous times |
MMT is not a policy, it's a description of how government finances work using double entry bookkeeping, and not equating a government's finance to that of a household's which is truly illiterate. The fact you don't understand that simple distinction is very telling.
I see so many people claim they know how an economy operates and then nothing.
Can you give us a basic macroeconomic model with feedbacks? |  |
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| Polanski on 10:05 - May 2 with 234 views | waveneyblue |
| Polanski on 10:03 - May 2 by StokieBlue |
You'll be doing the same to the Reform supporters then?
Good stuff.
SB |
Funny enough, I feel pretty much the same about them as well..... albeit I truly believe they are slightly less "nuts"
So pop that in your misinformed pipe.
So many assumptions made on here....... | | | |
| Polanski on 10:05 - May 2 with 233 views | Nutkins_Return |
I've got no problem with people who vote for him as they are probably nice people however I think it's a wasted vote which gives reform and even better chance of winning so it will have completely the opposite effect. The greens have no chance whatsoever. They are probably nice people in the main who are very well meaning but is not realistic and it does somewhat see the good in everyone which would put is in a complete and utter mess.
What this country needs is talented and really strong calibre middle ground people that can bring everyone together, make sensible policies and have a backbone.
Politics is broken at the minute because politics is pure and simple find issues and errors in everything everyone else is doing and swap the PM every five minutes. Until as a country we get past this we are in a mess that allows the likes of reform in. | |
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| Polanski on 10:06 - May 2 with 229 views | Herbivore |
| Polanski on 09:30 - May 2 by ipswichtown1982 |
“Left leaning” forum? It’s like the Socialist Worker debating Soc from Brighton Poly in 1986 on here |
This is nonsense. Most on the forum are centrist dads, some slightly left of centre but nothing out of the ordinary in normal political times. That you think this makes them raging commies says more about how far politics in the country has pitched to the right than it does about this forum. | |
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| Polanski on 10:07 - May 2 with 224 views | wrightsrightglove |
| Polanski on 10:02 - May 2 by waveneyblue |
Not really,
Supporting lunatic political groups isnt a good look in my opinion either. |
Still here. Still not able to substantiate your claims. Classic grift | | | |
| Polanski on 10:07 - May 2 with 224 views | StokieBlue |
| Polanski on 10:05 - May 2 by waveneyblue |
Funny enough, I feel pretty much the same about them as well..... albeit I truly believe they are slightly less "nuts"
So pop that in your misinformed pipe.
So many assumptions made on here....... |
Glad you're consistent, just don't recall your being so quick to make multiple posters about Reform voters turning up on threads or playing Reform poster bingo.
As you've rightly pointed out, one can only form an opinion on what you've posted previously...
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| Polanski on 10:10 - May 2 with 208 views | Herbivore |
| Polanski on 09:51 - May 2 by waveneyblue |
Thanks for turning up, you were one of the last names on my Green Party TWTD bingo card.
House! |
Think you need to be shouting 'Nurse!' rather than 'House!', mate. You probably need changing again. | |
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| Polanski on 10:11 - May 2 with 204 views | MattinLondon |
| Polanski on 10:00 - May 2 by NthQldITFC |
Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing? |
Admitting to mistakes, taking ownership of them and apologising is a good thing.
But if it forms a pattern then it becomes a real problem. | | | |
| Polanski on 10:18 - May 2 with 179 views | NthQldITFC |
| Polanski on 09:55 - May 2 by MattinLondon |
By say this I’m not replying to anyone individually but collectively there’s a lot of strange replies on this thread.
I like many Green Party policies but worry how such policies will be paid for - possibly come the next election they will need to get more serious and explain fully how things will be paid for. But this isn’t just a Green Party issue - In my opinion all national mainstream manifestos should be independently costed by some apolitical organisation. If they don’t add up then they are not allowed to be costed.
Not sure why many are slurring them with the tag that they will ruin the economy - in modern times both Labour and the Tories have done just that but their supporters always go running back to them.
At the moment, the Greens seem to be on the level of Reform type of populism but without the racism or xenophobia I think I can get behind the Greens. |
That's about where I am too. Our 5 year cycle really screws us up - we're drifting into a dystopian future when you couple that with an ethereal service-based economy in a failing capitalist system on what looks like a terminally damaged planet.
The Green 'manifesto' (which is not fixed in stone for the next GE yet) is broadly aligned with my views, although I'd disagree with a few of their policies - not embracing nuclear power for one. But the underlying intention is by far the closest match for what I think any decent person should consider as the way forward for our country, our children, our environment.
What we all have to try to avoid is the really childish, absolutist, tribal defence of every single aspect of our own particular club. If you don't leave space for debate and compromise you're just another rabid dog with a different colour coat. | |
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| Polanski on 10:20 - May 2 with 167 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Polanski on 09:31 - May 2 by StokieBlue |
If you want my honest opinion, which you might not, I think your posting lately is almost always looking to cause an argument and that you've set yourself up as the arbiter of what is and isn't allowed on the forum.
With regards to the chart, you know that voting intention at Westminster in the middle of term always swings away from the party in power and I would argue that local election voting doesn't mirror Westminster voting and we are clearly discussing the local elections.
Just think you're saying one thing and then doing another (national issues don't apply etc).
Anyway, you'll likely disagree with that which is your right and hopefully we can debate civilly on matters but for the rest of the day they're are more important things afoot.
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Confirmation bias much. Someone posted that the Tory vote was extinct and I linked a poll proving the opposite. Meanwhile two other posters accuse me of being drunk, I was actually sitting in my car waiting to pick my youngest up from a birthday party, and you keep completely silent. Show some consistency man and pull the up for being argumentative.
The only person I’ve argumentative is my serial downvoter, Vapers. He’d downvote me if I posted that Ipswich play in Blue and white. But it’s all good natured. In fact I’m just back from my run and seen another downvote. Must have another gentle pop at him.
Anyway, enjoy the game. |  |
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