| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. 15:02 - May 2 with 2073 views | klg199 |
Just enjoy today and pick up the political sh*t next week. [Post edited 2 May 15:03]
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 18:52 - May 2 with 695 views | brazil1981 |
Our American investors will be very happy with Mr A… he’s in charge of the Club and he’s delivered once again!!!! Fortunately they call the shots! | | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 18:55 - May 2 with 689 views | noggin |
Ashton out. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 21:39 - May 2 with 607 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 18:44 - May 2 by Whos_blue |
Picture the scene.
The excitement is building as the final whistle nears.
The expectant crowd edge ever nearer to the touch line.
The whistle blows and people run on to the pitch, drunk in the joyous moment.
Absolute scenes!
Imagine being the person or persons whose first thought was to desecrate the north stand goal posts with Restore Britain stickers.
I don't ever recall that happening before.
Now tell me the political sh*t isn't important.
Those people who chose to deface the goal posts didn't leave it until next week.
The actions of Ashton - the visit and subsequent lies matter.
Whilst I did my bit to make today about football, you maybe want to consider what drove those others to put racist party supporting stickers on the north stand goal posts.
Whilst I (who is hugely disappointed with Ashton) just wanted to focus on the football, others didn't.
That matters and I suspect that's largely down to Farage's visit.
I don't think you get to chose who can discuss what and when on here.
Yes, it's a day for celebration. But for others that celebration is tarnished somewhat by Ashton's actions. |
The political shit isn't important, you asked, you got it. Personally as someone we know was fond of saying " I don't give a flying one " about it or politics and politicians in general as they are all as useless as each other. I hope that get's me tons of downvotes as it would validate my theories. |  | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 21:49 - May 2 with 594 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 21:39 - May 2 by armchaircritic59 |
The political shit isn't important, you asked, you got it. Personally as someone we know was fond of saying " I don't give a flying one " about it or politics and politicians in general as they are all as useless as each other. I hope that get's me tons of downvotes as it would validate my theories. |
Do you honestly believe it makes no difference whether Farage, Polanski, or Corbyn are in charge vs Badenoch, Starmer, or Davey? Do you honestly think it made no difference to you when Truss became PM and crashed the economy immediately?
This "they are all as bad as each other" is lazy and leads to dangerous extremists being elected on small populist votes.
Why do you think criticism of Ashton gets so much kick back? People are very keen on Farage and all he stands for. That should be terrifying to all decent people. If that won't make you vote, you will end up with what you deserve. But unfortunately so will the rest of us. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 22:26 - May 2 with 555 views | urbanpenguin |
Nah.
he can feck off. And I had a few chats to random people today at FPR and they all agreed. |  | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 22:53 - May 2 with 526 views | Libero |
Today has been one of the greatest days of my life- but you don’t get to police what I say and when, so- ASHTON OUT. |  | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 00:35 - May 3 with 483 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 21:49 - May 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you honestly believe it makes no difference whether Farage, Polanski, or Corbyn are in charge vs Badenoch, Starmer, or Davey? Do you honestly think it made no difference to you when Truss became PM and crashed the economy immediately?
This "they are all as bad as each other" is lazy and leads to dangerous extremists being elected on small populist votes.
Why do you think criticism of Ashton gets so much kick back? People are very keen on Farage and all he stands for. That should be terrifying to all decent people. If that won't make you vote, you will end up with what you deserve. But unfortunately so will the rest of us. |
As far as I'm concerned they are a bunch of self important, self obsessed greasy pole climbers ( with a few exceptions over the years ). I do actually vote despite that, mainly to prevent those who come out with the usual " If you don't vote you've no right to complain about anything " brigade. I just vote for the party at the time that I think is the less obnoxious. Not a great advert is it? I've never understood why people get so wound up about politics and I very much doubt I will now as I'm in my early 70's. It may be something to do with " tribalism " maybe. Whatever it is, I'll leave it those whose main pastime seems to be shouting down others of different political views. | | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 02:02 - May 3 with 442 views | urbanpenguin |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 00:35 - May 3 by armchaircritic59 |
As far as I'm concerned they are a bunch of self important, self obsessed greasy pole climbers ( with a few exceptions over the years ). I do actually vote despite that, mainly to prevent those who come out with the usual " If you don't vote you've no right to complain about anything " brigade. I just vote for the party at the time that I think is the less obnoxious. Not a great advert is it? I've never understood why people get so wound up about politics and I very much doubt I will now as I'm in my early 70's. It may be something to do with " tribalism " maybe. Whatever it is, I'll leave it those whose main pastime seems to be shouting down others of different political views. |
You say you don't get why people are interested in politics. The answer is that politics is interested in them. You say you're over 70, fantastic, congratulations. To get there you've needed human rights, workers rights, health care, social support, national culture, street cleaning, education, universities, all kinds of systems, structure and organisation.
That's politics. You are politics. Whether you like it or not, you are politics, and politics is you, so I always felt it's best to take an interest and awareness because it does in you. [Post edited 3 May 2:03]
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 02:26 - May 3 with 416 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Been busy, where did my thread go? |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 02:33 - May 3 with 407 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 18:44 - May 2 by Whos_blue |
Picture the scene.
The excitement is building as the final whistle nears.
The expectant crowd edge ever nearer to the touch line.
The whistle blows and people run on to the pitch, drunk in the joyous moment.
Absolute scenes!
Imagine being the person or persons whose first thought was to desecrate the north stand goal posts with Restore Britain stickers.
I don't ever recall that happening before.
Now tell me the political sh*t isn't important.
Those people who chose to deface the goal posts didn't leave it until next week.
The actions of Ashton - the visit and subsequent lies matter.
Whilst I did my bit to make today about football, you maybe want to consider what drove those others to put racist party supporting stickers on the north stand goal posts.
Whilst I (who is hugely disappointed with Ashton) just wanted to focus on the football, others didn't.
That matters and I suspect that's largely down to Farage's visit.
I don't think you get to chose who can discuss what and when on here.
Yes, it's a day for celebration. But for others that celebration is tarnished somewhat by Ashton's actions. |
Please tell me this didn't happen. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 06:21 - May 3 with 358 views | Benters |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 02:26 - May 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Been busy, where did my thread go? |
It was torn down buh..
Ashton In. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 06:29 - May 3 with 355 views | noggin |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 18:44 - May 2 by Whos_blue |
Picture the scene.
The excitement is building as the final whistle nears.
The expectant crowd edge ever nearer to the touch line.
The whistle blows and people run on to the pitch, drunk in the joyous moment.
Absolute scenes!
Imagine being the person or persons whose first thought was to desecrate the north stand goal posts with Restore Britain stickers.
I don't ever recall that happening before.
Now tell me the political sh*t isn't important.
Those people who chose to deface the goal posts didn't leave it until next week.
The actions of Ashton - the visit and subsequent lies matter.
Whilst I did my bit to make today about football, you maybe want to consider what drove those others to put racist party supporting stickers on the north stand goal posts.
Whilst I (who is hugely disappointed with Ashton) just wanted to focus on the football, others didn't.
That matters and I suspect that's largely down to Farage's visit.
I don't think you get to chose who can discuss what and when on here.
Yes, it's a day for celebration. But for others that celebration is tarnished somewhat by Ashton's actions. |
FFS, that is so sad.
I've just been scrolling through Facebook and someone has called our ground Deportman Road. I'm sure a few on here will find that hilarious but do we really want our club and supporters to be labeled in this way? Ashton out! | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 06:30 - May 3 with 351 views | Benters |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 06:29 - May 3 by noggin |
FFS, that is so sad.
I've just been scrolling through Facebook and someone has called our ground Deportman Road. I'm sure a few on here will find that hilarious but do we really want our club and supporters to be labeled in this way? Ashton out! |
That’s as old as the hills buh keep up.
Ashton in. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 06:42 - May 3 with 337 views | KBsSocks |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 06:30 - May 3 by Benters |
That’s as old as the hills buh keep up.
Ashton in. |
Ashton IN- |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 07:50 - May 3 with 285 views | lazyblue |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 15:06 - May 2 by wkj |
Why not both, McK is a god and Ashton is a knob... both a factually correct and enjoyable to talk about [Post edited 2 May 15:12]
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You must have some jealousy somewhere for him as he is actually a really decent chap not to mention some one hell of a job since being here . | | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 07:52 - May 3 with 277 views | Churchman |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 16:00 - May 2 by armchaircritic59 |
Personally I don't give a stuff about the " political sh*t ". If there's anything to come of it, it's in the court of the owners. I'll be happy with whatever they decide ( if they decide anything at all ), they've barely put a foot wrong since they've been here. This is a football club not a political sideshow, and one that has just got back to the top league in world football and people are still talking politics. A typical example of why I detest both politics and over 90% of all politicians, in a nutshell. |
Agree with you armchair. And you are right to detest politics and politicians. The vast majority are the dregs of humanity. I’ve seen what they do far to close for comfort. Representing constituents? Doing the right thing? They don’t know the meaning of the words.
The football club is not politics. It’s not Farage, free gear Sir Kier, Kemi whatherface, the dear leader Corbyn or any other fraud. The football club is what I saw yesterday. 1000s of people taking a rare moment of pleasure enjoying the success of their team. When every single person working for the club or owning it is long gone, they’ll still be there.
But in saying that ITFC is also the people that have passed, that are in the very soul of the club. It would have been my dad’s birthday yesterday. Oh how he would like to have witnessed that. Maybe somewhere he did, who knows. He was too unwell to understand Gamechanger or the first promotion and had gone by the second. I know what he’d have said if I’d raised the subject of politics yesterday. Nothing. He too loathed politicians and would have just growled.
So I like to separate things out and enjoy the moment. I was at Lords Friday. I checked the mobile at Lunch and Tea and switched it off. It was off most of yesterday too. A good friend of mine cannot stop fiddling with his phone in the pub or anywhere else really. It’s as if he cannot separate out the different strands of life and it’s all become jumbled. Sad.
That is what I see on here at times. Yesterday wasn’t about anything but the moment for young and old. Play back the sound of that first goal - was anyone thinking Ashton out or anything else out at that moment? I hope not because it wasn’t the time for that.
Just enjoy it for what it is. Sport. |  | | |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 09:52 - May 3 with 225 views | DJR |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 18:44 - May 2 by Whos_blue |
Picture the scene.
The excitement is building as the final whistle nears.
The expectant crowd edge ever nearer to the touch line.
The whistle blows and people run on to the pitch, drunk in the joyous moment.
Absolute scenes!
Imagine being the person or persons whose first thought was to desecrate the north stand goal posts with Restore Britain stickers.
I don't ever recall that happening before.
Now tell me the political sh*t isn't important.
Those people who chose to deface the goal posts didn't leave it until next week.
The actions of Ashton - the visit and subsequent lies matter.
Whilst I did my bit to make today about football, you maybe want to consider what drove those others to put racist party supporting stickers on the north stand goal posts.
Whilst I (who is hugely disappointed with Ashton) just wanted to focus on the football, others didn't.
That matters and I suspect that's largely down to Farage's visit.
I don't think you get to chose who can discuss what and when on here.
Yes, it's a day for celebration. But for others that celebration is tarnished somewhat by Ashton's actions. |
Were those the same stickers as the ITFC "On the blow with Rupert Lowe" stickers that I saw on seats at Norwich?
It is really sad that a club such as Ipswich, who were renowned for not being racist in the 70s, now appears to have the sort of supporters that in those days were common at clubs like West Ham and Chelsea. [Post edited 3 May 9:55]
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| The organisation at the head of a Club, Nation or State is very important on 09:55 - May 3 with 215 views | WeWereZombies |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 02:02 - May 3 by urbanpenguin |
You say you don't get why people are interested in politics. The answer is that politics is interested in them. You say you're over 70, fantastic, congratulations. To get there you've needed human rights, workers rights, health care, social support, national culture, street cleaning, education, universities, all kinds of systems, structure and organisation.
That's politics. You are politics. Whether you like it or not, you are politics, and politics is you, so I always felt it's best to take an interest and awareness because it does in you. [Post edited 3 May 2:03]
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Just to underline this, I am seventy (seventy one in a couple of weeks) and joined a major party last Christmas Day. I've voted for them at most elections over the last fifty two years. And now, finally due to a couple of issues that have hit very close to home, I am active in the party with an election happening on Thursday. So I'm knocking on doors and talking to people as I hand out leaflets for our candidate, asking questions at Hustings and walking around with the candidate and a stepladder putting up posters on lampposts.
I know that Churchman and DJR have experienced the venal side of politicians in the pressure cooker of Westminster but I find it quite a privilege to be walking around for an hour or so talking politics (and life in general) with someone who could be sitting in Holyrood next week, one of the few things I agree with Glassers on is that politicians are humans too and are generally motivated by acting on our behalfs where possible. We've got a job on our hands but I think the team are giving their best to see Isla elected, I'm hoping that yesterday lunchtime's promotion is a portent for more good news later in the week. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 09:58 - May 3 with 194 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
You've got to be short of a few steps on your stairs to fail to understand that posting asking people not to post about Ashton like this won't automatically start a whole series of posts about Ashton. |  |
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| The organisation at the head of a Club, Nation or State is very important on 10:08 - May 3 with 143 views | DJR |
| The organisation at the head of a Club, Nation or State is very important on 09:55 - May 3 by WeWereZombies |
Just to underline this, I am seventy (seventy one in a couple of weeks) and joined a major party last Christmas Day. I've voted for them at most elections over the last fifty two years. And now, finally due to a couple of issues that have hit very close to home, I am active in the party with an election happening on Thursday. So I'm knocking on doors and talking to people as I hand out leaflets for our candidate, asking questions at Hustings and walking around with the candidate and a stepladder putting up posters on lampposts.
I know that Churchman and DJR have experienced the venal side of politicians in the pressure cooker of Westminster but I find it quite a privilege to be walking around for an hour or so talking politics (and life in general) with someone who could be sitting in Holyrood next week, one of the few things I agree with Glassers on is that politicians are humans too and are generally motivated by acting on our behalfs where possible. We've got a job on our hands but I think the team are giving their best to see Isla elected, I'm hoping that yesterday lunchtime's promotion is a portent for more good news later in the week. |
Certainly the politicians, councillors and activists I have come across locally, whether Tory, Lib Dem, Labour or Green, are decent people. [Post edited 3 May 10:16]
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 10:13 - May 3 with 120 views | Whos_blue |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 02:33 - May 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Please tell me this didn't happen. |
Sad but true Banksy. Sad but true. |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 10:16 - May 3 with 115 views | Plums |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 02:33 - May 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Please tell me this didn't happen. |
I came here to ask the same.
Absolutely sickening that this happened - if it did? |  |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 10:26 - May 3 with 85 views | Whos_blue |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 09:52 - May 3 by DJR |
Were those the same stickers as the ITFC "On the blow with Rupert Lowe" stickers that I saw on seats at Norwich?
It is really sad that a club such as Ipswich, who were renowned for not being racist in the 70s, now appears to have the sort of supporters that in those days were common at clubs like West Ham and Chelsea. [Post edited 3 May 9:55]
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If they also referenced "Boys" from a north Suffolk town, then yes.
I loved yesterday and it reminded me why I "follow the Town, up or down", but whilst I was elated to be on the pitch, I won't pretend I wasn't somewhat deflated to see those stickers. There were others and I didn't see what they all said. I was deflated for two reasons. 1 - that people thought it was ok to abuse the privilege of being allowed on the hallowed turf by defacing the goal posts. A complete lack of respect, and 2 - that some of the stickers supported an extreme political group whose politics I find abhorrent.
I appreciate point 2 is due to my Individual beliefs, but the complete disrespect shown by those damaging the goal posts and the need for someone to now come along and remove the stickers (and we all know what a faff that can be) just saddens me that we have a group of people following the club who don't know the value of respect. | |
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| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 10:51 - May 3 with 40 views | DJR |
| Please leave the Ashton out stuff for another day. on 10:26 - May 3 by Whos_blue |
If they also referenced "Boys" from a north Suffolk town, then yes.
I loved yesterday and it reminded me why I "follow the Town, up or down", but whilst I was elated to be on the pitch, I won't pretend I wasn't somewhat deflated to see those stickers. There were others and I didn't see what they all said. I was deflated for two reasons. 1 - that people thought it was ok to abuse the privilege of being allowed on the hallowed turf by defacing the goal posts. A complete lack of respect, and 2 - that some of the stickers supported an extreme political group whose politics I find abhorrent.
I appreciate point 2 is due to my Individual beliefs, but the complete disrespect shown by those damaging the goal posts and the need for someone to now come along and remove the stickers (and we all know what a faff that can be) just saddens me that we have a group of people following the club who don't know the value of respect. |
They must have produced more stickers because the ones I saw didn't have that on them.
I also saw at Norwich, "More Palmer, less Starmer" ITFC stickers which indicates further express politicisation in our fan base.
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