| It’s VE Day 11:46 - May 8 with 5719 views | Mullet |
And people are voting in the fash up and down the country. What a mess we are in.
Another slap in the face to all of those who fought nazism. [Post edited 8 May 11:51]
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| It’s VE Day on 19:47 - May 8 with 1137 views | waveneyblue |
| It’s VE Day on 19:32 - May 8 by Mullet |
Appreciated old boy, but it's only insulting if I value the opinion of someone giving it. The dregs of TWTD hoping for a chance to rile people up because they have nothing else can get f£&£ed can't they? |
Dripping with the condescending cr@p that Dear old Mullers specialises in.
Lovely stuff |  | | |
| It’s VE Day on 19:57 - May 8 with 1129 views | vapour_trail |
My / our grandparents went to war with the facists and shot them.
These pages are full of people voting for them.
The biggest betrayal of those that went to war for us, that you could possibly see. |  |
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| It’s VE Day on 19:59 - May 8 with 1104 views | waveneyblue |
| It’s VE Day on 19:57 - May 8 by vapour_trail |
My / our grandparents went to war with the facists and shot them.
These pages are full of people voting for them.
The biggest betrayal of those that went to war for us, that you could possibly see. |
Give over....its really not that deep hun | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 20:00 - May 8 with 1113 views | brazil1982 |
| It’s VE Day on 19:57 - May 8 by vapour_trail |
My / our grandparents went to war with the facists and shot them.
These pages are full of people voting for them.
The biggest betrayal of those that went to war for us, that you could possibly see. |
Why are they fascists? |  | | |
| It’s VE Day on 20:04 - May 8 with 1101 views | Mullet |
| It’s VE Day on 20:00 - May 8 by brazil1982 |
Why are they fascists? |
Who knows? Greed, racism, inferiority complex? Who knows why anyone would choose fascism over decency? | |
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| It’s VE Day on 20:46 - May 8 with 1073 views | vapour_trail |
| It’s VE Day on 20:00 - May 8 by brazil1982 |
Why are they fascists? |
If your whole agenda is based around demonisation of the ‘other’ and transmitting onto the ‘other’ the blame and responsibility for the perceived ills in society, then that’s the territory you’ve inhabited.
They’re further along that path over the pond, and the two R parties that a lot of people have been extolling on here about today are basing their strategy on what has worked there.
I’ve responded to you rather than that Waveney fella that also replied because you’re generally civil and measured on here. That said, I’m not getting into a back and forth as I suspect were unlikely to reach agreement. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 20:59 - May 8 with 1058 views | Swansea_Blue |
| It’s VE Day on 20:00 - May 8 by brazil1982 |
Why are they fascists? |
Technically they’re more closely aligned with quasi-fascism, which borrows from the classic fascists without replicating every element of fascism. That’s largely because we’re now operating under very different economic and geo-political conditions and quasi-fascists are often in opposition and can’t own shape their environment in the way the likes of Hitler and Mussolini could when in power
So they borrow things from fascism like:
- intense, negative nationalism ☑️
- ‘othering’ a minority group, often immigrants, as the blame for people’s woes ☑️
- promoting a leadership cult ☑️
- promote authoritarian conservative principles ☑️
- attack on norms and institutions critical to a healthy democracy ☑️ [Post edited 8 May 21:15]
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| It’s VE Day on 21:10 - May 8 with 1054 views | Trequartista |
| It’s VE Day on 20:00 - May 8 by brazil1982 |
Why are they fascists? |
If you can label someone, you don't have to debate with them. |  |
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| It’s VE Day on 21:22 - May 8 with 1008 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
It’s a fair point, but certainly ironic when we also have a sitting government that classes protesters as terrorists, locks them up, attempts to cancel elections, force compulsory ID on people, and remove jury trials.
Straight out of the fascist/authoritarian playbook (and hence I didn’t renew my vote for them).
Probably get flamed by this, but people seem to be willing to wave their hard fought rights away and continue to vote for their favourite team. |  | | |
| It’s VE Day on 21:35 - May 8 with 1005 views | Swansea_Blue |
| It’s VE Day on 21:10 - May 8 by Trequartista |
If you can label someone, you don't have to debate with them. |
Not true. The post above your is literally replying to Brazil, so there’s no avoiding debate. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 21:57 - May 8 with 964 views | Sarge |
| It’s VE Day on 21:10 - May 8 by Trequartista |
If you can label someone, you don't have to debate with them. |
Why do they always run from debate though? I would love to understand, quite genuinely, why people that vote Reform do so, what they offer that chimes with them (notwithstanding that these are local elections), in a normal civil way. But never, not once, do you ever get any kind of response. It’s just one word answers if anything at all.
People apparently feel so strongly about something but never seem to articulate what it is or why. | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 22:03 - May 8 with 937 views | witchdoctor |
| It’s VE Day on 20:04 - May 8 by Mullet |
Who knows? Greed, racism, inferiority complex? Who knows why anyone would choose fascism over decency? |
which alternatives are decent then? |  | | |
| It’s VE Day on 22:50 - May 8 with 893 views | reusersfreekicks |
| It’s VE Day on 18:59 - May 8 by waveneyblue |
Mullet has spoken
God save the Mullet |
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| It’s VE Day on 23:03 - May 8 with 868 views | brazil1982 |
| It’s VE Day on 20:46 - May 8 by vapour_trail |
If your whole agenda is based around demonisation of the ‘other’ and transmitting onto the ‘other’ the blame and responsibility for the perceived ills in society, then that’s the territory you’ve inhabited.
They’re further along that path over the pond, and the two R parties that a lot of people have been extolling on here about today are basing their strategy on what has worked there.
I’ve responded to you rather than that Waveney fella that also replied because you’re generally civil and measured on here. That said, I’m not getting into a back and forth as I suspect were unlikely to reach agreement. |
Ok thanks. | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 08:23 - May 9 with 763 views | Mullet |
| It’s VE Day on 22:03 - May 8 by witchdoctor |
which alternatives are decent then? |
You've just asked whether there are better alternatives to fascists..... | |
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| It’s VE Day on 08:23 - May 9 with 757 views | Mullet |
Amazing there's 3 people who have endorsed Nazis and disrespecting our war dead. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 08:31 - May 9 with 742 views | chicoazul |
That’s modern comprehensive education for you. |  |
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| It’s VE Day on 08:53 - May 9 with 703 views | noggin |
| It’s VE Day on 19:47 - May 8 by waveneyblue |
Dripping with the condescending cr@p that Dear old Mullers specialises in.
Lovely stuff |
Here he is. The poster who definitely doesn't support Reform |  |
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| It’s VE Day on 08:57 - May 9 with 686 views | noggin |
| It’s VE Day on 08:23 - May 9 by Mullet |
Amazing there's 3 people who have endorsed Nazis and disrespecting our war dead. |
Not surprising though, when you look at the names. | |
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| It’s VE Day on 08:59 - May 9 with 667 views | Swansea_Blue |
| It’s VE Day on 08:31 - May 9 by chicoazul |
That’s modern comprehensive education for you. |
I blame the teachers! | |
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| It’s VE Day on 09:10 - May 9 with 640 views | chicoazul |
| It’s VE Day on 08:59 - May 9 by Swansea_Blue |
I blame the teachers! |
Comprehensive education is great teachers are doing a good job
Everyone is stupid
Choose one | |
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| It’s VE Day on 09:14 - May 9 with 618 views | waveneyblue |
| It’s VE Day on 08:57 - May 9 by noggin |
Not surprising though, when you look at the names. |
Thats an utterly abysmal conclusion to draw from that.
Stay classy mate.
Edit - Mullets post, about disrespecting the war dead. Vile [Post edited 9 May 9:15]
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| It’s VE Day on 09:41 - May 9 with 589 views | Herbivore |
Just seen a heartbreaking bit on the Beeb in Wigan. Interviewing a Black American who works as a drug and alcohol worker there and has lived there for 16 years and is a British citizen now. Said that it always used to be a friendly place but the last couple of years he's noticed people staring at him and heard them whispering that he shouldn't be here, is he here illegally. Said that when the flags were going up there were areas he didn't feel safe to even drive through.
This is the result of the hateful politics of Farage which the media have happily fanned and amplified, and never challenged. Well done, you bunch of c***s who support this awfulness. [Post edited 9 May 10:52]
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| It’s VE Day on 11:07 - May 9 with 538 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| It’s VE Day on 21:57 - May 8 by Sarge |
Why do they always run from debate though? I would love to understand, quite genuinely, why people that vote Reform do so, what they offer that chimes with them (notwithstanding that these are local elections), in a normal civil way. But never, not once, do you ever get any kind of response. It’s just one word answers if anything at all.
People apparently feel so strongly about something but never seem to articulate what it is or why. |
It seems to be because they're very happy to let someone else do all the thinking for them. So they're fine getting riled up about something a grinning narcissist tells them is a problem, like those different-looking people they occasionally see on TV - but, the grinning narcissist doesn't tell them how to answer any questions on their position (because their position stands up to no scrutiny whatsoever), so instead they just emulate how they see him deal with questioning. "BORING!" "MOVE ON!" Make shit up. Or just baselessly attack the one asking the questions.
Or just claim that everyone else is just as bad (like Starmer accepting a couple of pairs of glasses and declaring them, which is obviously exactly the same as the grinning narcissist accepting £5m to pursue agendas which would directly benefit its donor), so why not vote in the most-proven liar out of the lot of them, and then blame everyone else when life gets worse, more expensive and more dangerous for them in every measurable way.
Same as you, I'm genuinely fascinated to understand more about why anyone who isn't a white billionaire would honestly think Nigel Farage would piss on them if they were on fire, and am desperate not to write it off as stupidity, but responses to any form of debate only ever seem to come from ignorance or bigotry and a complete blindness to how they're voting against their own safety and interests. Or there's no response at all, in which case, it seems pretty reasonable to make assumptions on what's underlying. | | | |
| It’s VE Day on 11:13 - May 9 with 517 views | chicoazul |
| It’s VE Day on 09:41 - May 9 by Herbivore |
Just seen a heartbreaking bit on the Beeb in Wigan. Interviewing a Black American who works as a drug and alcohol worker there and has lived there for 16 years and is a British citizen now. Said that it always used to be a friendly place but the last couple of years he's noticed people staring at him and heard them whispering that he shouldn't be here, is he here illegally. Said that when the flags were going up there were areas he didn't feel safe to even drive through.
This is the result of the hateful politics of Farage which the media have happily fanned and amplified, and never challenged. Well done, you bunch of c***s who support this awfulness. [Post edited 9 May 10:52]
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I believe it’s always been like this. Farage, like all demagogues and populists, just makes people feel they don’t have to hide it anymore. | |
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