| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division 20:22 - May 9 with 8135 views | DublinBlue84 |
This is exactly what they do, use people for their own publicity and sow division.
And they'll keep doing it. |  |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:18 - May 10 with 1038 views | Benters |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 00:39 - May 10 by Camul123 |
Do you have any idea how many died fighting against fascism?
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Language Timothy.. |  |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:19 - May 10 with 1035 views | Benters |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 00:54 - May 10 by Churchman |
You are being abusive - again. Is there a reason why you cannot be polite towards a fellow poster who is just as entitled to give their opinion as you?
And for the record I do know how many died fighting the Axis powers.
One of them was an air gunner in 50 Squadron by the name of JH Matthews. His aircraft took part in an attack on two Battlecruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau berthed in Brest in March 1941. Returning from the attack the damaged aircraft, a Handley Page Hampden, suddenly rolled and dived into the sea off the Scily Isles. The crew of four is remembered on the Runnymede Memorial. He was a relation of mine. |
Fair play to you mate. | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:30 - May 10 with 1015 views | Blueschev |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 06:36 - May 10 by Benters |
As I’ve said before you take a crowd of 30’000 people a fair few of those people will be Reform voters.
That’s if people like it or not.Some people won’t admit it either.
I wonder if Ashton played a blinder here,inviting the future PM of Blighty for a bit of nose bag. |
They got on the gear too? I thought they just had lunch. Explains the arrogance of both of them, mind. |  | | |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:38 - May 10 with 977 views | Benters |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:30 - May 10 by Blueschev |
They got on the gear too? I thought they just had lunch. Explains the arrogance of both of them, mind. |
Ha!
That’s how they used to feed working horses (not coke of course). | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:40 - May 10 with 970 views | Benters |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:08 - May 10 by NewcyBlue |
At some point there needs to be a proper grown up conversation about it.
Other than sound bites, what really is it that reform voters are voting for?
This is the area I live in, I live in a reform area now. Tomorrow morning I’ll be emailing about an issue with at one of the local parks, and bringing up that local scrap men have stolen the gratings from the storm drains.
I wish I had kept the leaflets that had come through the door in recent weeks, the independent candidate had actual goals and visions.
The green candidate had information and a clear vision of what she wanted to achieve.
Reform, it was all about Farage. Nothing about the local area, the issues in the local area.
It’s all lacking a bit of substance really.
I tend not to talk politics with mates or colleagues these days, it’s just boring mate.
At the end of the day, I don’t see any politician as being in it for anything other than to line their own pockets. They’re all crooks, and the last person to enter the Houses of Parliament with honest intentions was Guy Fawkes. |
Why didn’t you do that when the last local council had control then?
Presuming you didn’t of course Pugwash? | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 08:03 - May 10 with 940 views | NewcyBlue |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:40 - May 10 by Benters |
Why didn’t you do that when the last local council had control then?
Presuming you didn’t of course Pugwash? |
The park issue I raised and got a “I’ll look into it” response.
The park has had massive investment into it, so it’s heading in the right direction.
The gratings issue has happened this week funnily enough. 3 gratings all on back roads the local children use to walk to school.
We have been out with the previous councillor litter picking the local area. I’d more than welcome the same with the reform incumbent. |  |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 08:54 - May 10 with 853 views | Pinewoodblue |
Looks like they made enough changes to the original photo to appease Halo, Sky and the club by blurring the background and removing the Championship badge.
I’m sure Ed Sheeran isn’t happy they Left Tingly Ted on the other sleeve. |  |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 09:01 - May 10 with 825 views | blueislander |
What a horrific thread. It shows how deep a chasm this issue has caused. The club prides itself on its work in the community, and this is contrary to what I believe is that ethic. The club should issue a very clear statement that it does not endorse any political party and the use of the club for any political purpose is unwelcome. | | | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 09:03 - May 10 with 813 views | DJR |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 07:08 - May 10 by NewcyBlue |
At some point there needs to be a proper grown up conversation about it.
Other than sound bites, what really is it that reform voters are voting for?
This is the area I live in, I live in a reform area now. Tomorrow morning I’ll be emailing about an issue with at one of the local parks, and bringing up that local scrap men have stolen the gratings from the storm drains.
I wish I had kept the leaflets that had come through the door in recent weeks, the independent candidate had actual goals and visions.
The green candidate had information and a clear vision of what she wanted to achieve.
Reform, it was all about Farage. Nothing about the local area, the issues in the local area.
It’s all lacking a bit of substance really.
I tend not to talk politics with mates or colleagues these days, it’s just boring mate.
At the end of the day, I don’t see any politician as being in it for anything other than to line their own pockets. They’re all crooks, and the last person to enter the Houses of Parliament with honest intentions was Guy Fawkes. |
There is a reason it was all about Farage. This made it national expenditure which is not subject to the limitations on local spending which apply in relation local elections.
This explains why my daughter received a nationally-driven mailshot but nothing locally. It also explains the full-page front page ads on polling day in papers like the Standard, which had the slogan "Vote Reform - Get Starmer Out".
This from today's Observer explains the position.
"Voters have reacted angrily to a series of prominent adverts taken out by Reform UK on polling day, including takeovers of both the print and online editions of the London Standard.
A graphic showing the back of Keir Starmer’s head with the slogan “Vote Reform: Get Starmer Out”, capitalised on the party’s central theme throughout the campaign – making mileage out of the unpopularity of the prime minister.
Media sources estimated that the total cost of buying up the newspaper’s front page was about £50,000, although the Standard does not make its rate public. However, by focusing on a national issue – as the party has also done in its direct mail campaign – Reform is able to sidestep the local spending limit, usually between £3,000 and £4,000 for a ward of 10,000 people.
There is also no reporting mechanism for this type of spend, meaning the party never has to declare it. Shaun Roberts, director of campaigns and digital at Unlock Democracy, said: “If they took out that ad at a general election, it would go into their national expense return, but there is no way of reporting it for a local election, so we won’t ever know. It is a longstanding issue, but has never been a problem before because parties don't usually have that much to spend at a national level for locals. However, Reform has been getting these very large donors and they are making the most of it - there is nothing illegal about it.”
Reform said that it “always complies com with the electoral law”.
It's all very canny but at the same time against the spirit of the rules.
But I would expect nothing less of someone like Farage who is keen to further stir up things in relation to his visit to the club, which if nothing else shows a lack of respect for Ashton, knowing how much hot water he got himself into a month or so ago. [Post edited 10 May 11:38]
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 09:55 - May 10 with 668 views | Mullet |
They’re literally a limited company unlike all the others and everyone associated with them are as he describes. |  |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 09:58 - May 10 with 660 views | Mullet |
Yes it’s not Reform types costing the police millions with “protests” which are thinly veiled attempts at riots across major cities.
It’s the left doxxing people for taking down flags they’ve put yup to spread hate.
The left are bussed in to stand outside hotels and intimidate people.
The left are resigning every day due to vile racist, transphobic, hate speech etc
The left are suggesting camps in enemy constituencies | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 10:02 - May 10 with 648 views | Mullet |
That’s who’s using our brand, our name and our heritage by the by. While I’m loathed to invoke the Sir Bobby stuff, I wonder what he would make of that and his homeland being embraced by this. | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 10:04 - May 10 with 625 views | BlueSmoke |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 09:58 - May 10 by Mullet |
Yes it’s not Reform types costing the police millions with “protests” which are thinly veiled attempts at riots across major cities.
It’s the left doxxing people for taking down flags they’ve put yup to spread hate.
The left are bussed in to stand outside hotels and intimidate people.
The left are resigning every day due to vile racist, transphobic, hate speech etc
The left are suggesting camps in enemy constituencies |
It's called democracy. Cope. |  | | |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 10:10 - May 10 with 590 views | Mullet |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 10:04 - May 10 by BlueSmoke |
It's called democracy. Cope. |
That’s not how reading works. No one was talking about democracy, it was the characterisation of left vs right. You can pick your own C word here. | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 10:14 - May 10 with 572 views | Whos_blue |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 10:04 - May 10 by BlueSmoke |
It's called democracy. Cope. |
Yes. The results are due to a democratic process. I don't think that's up for debate.
I don't think Mullet was questioning that either.
It seems to me he was giving an opinion on the outcome of that democratic process.
In a democratic society I found his thoughts very concerning.
That doesn't sound much like a democracy I'd be rushing to sign up for.
You? |  |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 11:15 - May 10 with 475 views | NBVJohn |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 09:01 - May 10 by blueislander |
What a horrific thread. It shows how deep a chasm this issue has caused. The club prides itself on its work in the community, and this is contrary to what I believe is that ethic. The club should issue a very clear statement that it does not endorse any political party and the use of the club for any political purpose is unwelcome. |
Agreed.
The only thing I can add is that it was all completely avoidable.
It’s way too late for damage limitation now. | | | |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 11:31 - May 10 with 1303 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 11:15 - May 10 by NBVJohn |
Agreed.
The only thing I can add is that it was all completely avoidable.
It’s way too late for damage limitation now. |
Since the gentleman concerned is unwilling to desist it might be appropriate for the club to get a court order to stop him.
It is fundamentally false to imply that Reform have any reason to thank Ipswich Town supporters for Reforms success. Any verbal apology would be worthless. | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 12:56 - May 10 with 1218 views | Blue_Uprising |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 11:31 - May 10 by Pinewoodblue |
Since the gentleman concerned is unwilling to desist it might be appropriate for the club to get a court order to stop him.
It is fundamentally false to imply that Reform have any reason to thank Ipswich Town supporters for Reforms success. Any verbal apology would be worthless. |
It would be interesting for the local press to ask if we have issued a cease and desist letter seeking that they do not continue to misuse our image and brand.
I’m sure it won’t stop them.
But it would be interesting to know if Ashton has even instructed lawyers to ask.
Something tells me he might not have…🙄 |  | | |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 13:03 - May 10 with 1192 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 12:56 - May 10 by Blue_Uprising |
It would be interesting for the local press to ask if we have issued a cease and desist letter seeking that they do not continue to misuse our image and brand.
I’m sure it won’t stop them.
But it would be interesting to know if Ashton has even instructed lawyers to ask.
Something tells me he might not have…🙄 |
By blurring the background Halo advert is unreadable something must have prompted that, hopefully action by Ashton. | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 16:52 - May 10 with 1086 views | pointofblue |
And you say more interested in antagonising and winding people up than entering a proper discussion. | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 17:20 - May 10 with 1045 views | Mullet |
Baffling how you can infer that from a list proving you wrong. It’s interesting you go for personal attacks in the fact of facts when proven wrong. The classic response of the angry.
Projection perhaps? | |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 17:24 - May 10 with 1030 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Another waste of space! |  |
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| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 19:40 - May 10 with 941 views | NBVJohn |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 11:31 - May 10 by Pinewoodblue |
Since the gentleman concerned is unwilling to desist it might be appropriate for the club to get a court order to stop him.
It is fundamentally false to imply that Reform have any reason to thank Ipswich Town supporters for Reforms success. Any verbal apology would be worthless. |
My point is that this outcome was inevitable once the club (or Ashton?) agreed to the visit.
It must have been known that they would manipulate things in this way. Was this not considered or discussed? That’s just naive!
Imagine the division now if we’d imploded and not gone up. I’ve said previously that Ashton is a lucky boy in this respect.
Now is the time to put pressure on the club to address this. I hear the argument that of 30,000 fans some will vote Reform but no party / movement should have been given the opportunity to use the club in such a divisive way. | | | |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 21:37 - May 10 with 844 views | lazyblue |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 20:40 - May 9 by Blueschev |
It makes me sick that that vile racist piece of sh!t can use our club as a prop for his far right shill. Fcuk Ashton, the arrogant, Wish David Brent w@nker. [Post edited 9 May 21:15]
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Well down Reform, perhaps this town will get sorted now. | | | |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 21:53 - May 10 with 829 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I see reform are continuing to use the club to sow division on 21:37 - May 10 by lazyblue |
Well down Reform, perhaps this town will get sorted now. |
Sorted how? | |
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