| Harvey Elliott 15:19 - May 14 with 4262 views | TwoKnightsInIpswich |
He's had a wasted loan year at Villa and has no future at Liverpool. He's a great talent with loads of experience and still young.
While I'm not suggesting he'd come to us, he's the sort of player we should be linked with.
Personally, if wages weren't an issue, I think it would be a signing that would benefit all parties. |  | | |  |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:35 - May 14 with 3399 views | Herbivore |
He'll go to a Bournemouth or Brentford type side I expect. Not one I can see us having much chance of signing. |  |
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| Harvey Elliott on 15:47 - May 14 with 3314 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Hasn't played much as Villa have a £35m obligation if he plays 10 league games, which they've clearly been reluctant to trigger. Bit shit that the 2 clubs couldn't have agreed something between themselves to forgo that when it was clear where his season was heading.
I expect he'll go somewhere, and for less than £35m, but doubt it'll be a newly promoted club. Not sure if moving from Liverpool to Everton would be too contentious, but that would be a good one for him. Or Palace in terms of somewhere he'll be likely to play regularly. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:52 - May 14 with 3274 views | BloomBlue |
I was unsure but was his issue at Villa all to do with the obligation to buy if he played a certain number of games?
I'm only asking because I rate him and surprised that Villa haven't played him more, so wondering if its more a case of him not performing when he was selected. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:53 - May 14 with 3266 views | TractorJack |
Wasted? Thought he was injured for majority of it. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:11 - May 14 with 3146 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Think it would be a really good signing, think he'll have more established suitors.
Villa seem broadly happy with his attitude given the circumstance, feels like Emri nver wanted him |  |
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| Harvey Elliott on 16:16 - May 14 with 3089 views | itfcsuth |
Not sure he fits the physical demands we need in the side, despite him obviously being a very talented footballer. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:19 - May 14 with 3051 views | FelixBlue4 |
I would be happy with Callum Wilson, John Stones and Harvey Elliott. I think they would be great signings for us and if you can sell the dream to them the fees won’t be beyond what we can afford and even the wages. What the club have to decide is do we repeat what we did last time in the Premiership or try and stay up. We could bring in 10 players for 100 million that might not make it or 3 solid players that are first names on the team sheet. I think for the first couple of seasons in this league we need to just create contracts to get players in like with the Delap relegation clause. So we spend 30 million on Elliott with a 30 million release clause on relegation, we won’t make money but we don’t lose either. It has to be the only way till we are established.
I am not saying 3 is enough but those 3 would be a good start and maybe a couple from abroad. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:28 - May 14 with 2990 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:19 - May 14 by FelixBlue4 |
I would be happy with Callum Wilson, John Stones and Harvey Elliott. I think they would be great signings for us and if you can sell the dream to them the fees won’t be beyond what we can afford and even the wages. What the club have to decide is do we repeat what we did last time in the Premiership or try and stay up. We could bring in 10 players for 100 million that might not make it or 3 solid players that are first names on the team sheet. I think for the first couple of seasons in this league we need to just create contracts to get players in like with the Delap relegation clause. So we spend 30 million on Elliott with a 30 million release clause on relegation, we won’t make money but we don’t lose either. It has to be the only way till we are established.
I am not saying 3 is enough but those 3 would be a good start and maybe a couple from abroad. |
A balance to be had for me. Invest the bigger transfer fees on young players with sell on potential, either domestic or from overseas. Then 2 or 3 senior established players, possibly 'free' or smaller transfer fees but no doubt be on a decent chunk of wages. Bring some experience and ready to hit the ground running.
Not sure if Stones is realistic in that, probably not, but it might be a case of someone like Stones back to Everton freeing up Michael Keane? He signed a 1 year extension recently though, so perhaps not him. 2 or 3 of that ilk would be good. | | | |
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| Harvey Elliott on 16:48 - May 14 with 2901 views | tetchris |
John Stones is on £250k a week so is very unlikely to drop to £40/50k a week which is the maximum town could probably afford to pay him. Elliott is on £65k a week. Wilson is alleged to be on a low weekly wage £6/10k but his contract is heavily incentivised so he gets around £50k a week.
It is believed O’Shea is the highest paid town player on £35k a week. He will probably be offered a new contract now town have been promoted which might take him to £40k a week.
We can’t afford PL players from other clubs as their wages are too high unless it’s a loan deal with wages being split between the two clubs, that’s why he have to look abroad in leagues with wages comparable to top end championship/lower level PL clubs. If town stay in the PL for a few seasons then they could potentially afford these types of players in the future, especially if you can get into one of the European competitions.
I think we will look abroad primarily, consider one or two PL loans or permanent signings from the likes of Chelsea/Man City, and a couple of players from the championship. As we found out last time we were in the PL, players like Ogbene, Szmodics etc just weren’t good enough. When you consider we played similar money for Matisuwa, yet he has been far better value for money. | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 17:01 - May 14 with 2817 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:48 - May 14 by tetchris |
John Stones is on £250k a week so is very unlikely to drop to £40/50k a week which is the maximum town could probably afford to pay him. Elliott is on £65k a week. Wilson is alleged to be on a low weekly wage £6/10k but his contract is heavily incentivised so he gets around £50k a week.
It is believed O’Shea is the highest paid town player on £35k a week. He will probably be offered a new contract now town have been promoted which might take him to £40k a week.
We can’t afford PL players from other clubs as their wages are too high unless it’s a loan deal with wages being split between the two clubs, that’s why he have to look abroad in leagues with wages comparable to top end championship/lower level PL clubs. If town stay in the PL for a few seasons then they could potentially afford these types of players in the future, especially if you can get into one of the European competitions.
I think we will look abroad primarily, consider one or two PL loans or permanent signings from the likes of Chelsea/Man City, and a couple of players from the championship. As we found out last time we were in the PL, players like Ogbene, Szmodics etc just weren’t good enough. When you consider we played similar money for Matisuwa, yet he has been far better value for money. |
Our top earners will be on quite a bit more than £40k a week. | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 17:17 - May 14 with 2739 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
You have to consider the 10-15 EPL clubs (and 20+ inc European clubs) that will be ahead of us in the queue for Harvey Elliot types of players.
Its just not going to happen. |  |
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| Harvey Elliott on 17:19 - May 14 with 2730 views | Leaky |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:48 - May 14 by tetchris |
John Stones is on £250k a week so is very unlikely to drop to £40/50k a week which is the maximum town could probably afford to pay him. Elliott is on £65k a week. Wilson is alleged to be on a low weekly wage £6/10k but his contract is heavily incentivised so he gets around £50k a week.
It is believed O’Shea is the highest paid town player on £35k a week. He will probably be offered a new contract now town have been promoted which might take him to £40k a week.
We can’t afford PL players from other clubs as their wages are too high unless it’s a loan deal with wages being split between the two clubs, that’s why he have to look abroad in leagues with wages comparable to top end championship/lower level PL clubs. If town stay in the PL for a few seasons then they could potentially afford these types of players in the future, especially if you can get into one of the European competitions.
I think we will look abroad primarily, consider one or two PL loans or permanent signings from the likes of Chelsea/Man City, and a couple of players from the championship. As we found out last time we were in the PL, players like Ogbene, Szmodics etc just weren’t good enough. When you consider we played similar money for Matisuwa, yet he has been far better value for money. |
Why is it that we have players like Stones mentioned on here with wages of £250k a week , surely they know they are at the end of there careers, and to get a new contract they need to take a pay cut. |  | | |
| Stones will go to Everton. (n/t) on 17:20 - May 14 with 2715 views | Bloots |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:48 - May 14 by tetchris |
John Stones is on £250k a week so is very unlikely to drop to £40/50k a week which is the maximum town could probably afford to pay him. Elliott is on £65k a week. Wilson is alleged to be on a low weekly wage £6/10k but his contract is heavily incentivised so he gets around £50k a week.
It is believed O’Shea is the highest paid town player on £35k a week. He will probably be offered a new contract now town have been promoted which might take him to £40k a week.
We can’t afford PL players from other clubs as their wages are too high unless it’s a loan deal with wages being split between the two clubs, that’s why he have to look abroad in leagues with wages comparable to top end championship/lower level PL clubs. If town stay in the PL for a few seasons then they could potentially afford these types of players in the future, especially if you can get into one of the European competitions.
I think we will look abroad primarily, consider one or two PL loans or permanent signings from the likes of Chelsea/Man City, and a couple of players from the championship. As we found out last time we were in the PL, players like Ogbene, Szmodics etc just weren’t good enough. When you consider we played similar money for Matisuwa, yet he has been far better value for money. |
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| Harvey Elliott on 17:56 - May 14 with 2583 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Harvey Elliott on 17:01 - May 14 by _CliveBaker_ |
Our top earners will be on quite a bit more than £40k a week. |
And no doubt many have promotion clause that automatically increases their wages without the need for a new contract, | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 18:02 - May 14 with 2553 views | Swansea_Blue |
Loving the ambition- it’s exactly the sort of player we need. Very hard to do for players with that experience and reputation, but we need to try. |  |
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| Harvey Elliott on 18:08 - May 14 with 2515 views | vapour_trail |
| Harvey Elliott on 15:53 - May 14 by TractorJack |
Wasted? Thought he was injured for majority of it. |
Been fit most of the season. Emre fronted up pretty early on the year wasn’t for him. As someone else said, really poor that he’s been left to fester.
Worth a loan shout, with a multi-caveat obligation to buy. |  |
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| Harvey Elliott on 18:10 - May 14 with 2509 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Harvey Elliott on 18:02 - May 14 by Swansea_Blue |
Loving the ambition- it’s exactly the sort of player we need. Very hard to do for players with that experience and reputation, but we need to try. |
Stick an offer in and get him in a room with KM to seal the deal. | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 20:34 - May 14 with 2217 views | MK1 |
If he would come here, would be a brilliant signing. Sure someone like Forest or Fulham would snap him up. |  |
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| Harvey Elliott on 20:48 - May 14 with 2145 views | Churchman |
| Harvey Elliott on 18:02 - May 14 by Swansea_Blue |
Loving the ambition- it’s exactly the sort of player we need. Very hard to do for players with that experience and reputation, but we need to try. |
Surely we had enough experience of the injury prone and has beens with Phillips didn’t we? Experience is one thing, last hurrah pension seekers is another. Unless we can find a Xhaka, Wark, Mowbray type of character, you are better off with the younger and hungrier.
I know people get all dreamy over the big name, marquee signings, but for a club like ITFC, they are a waste of time and money. If I’m proved wrong I’ll be overjoyed to put my hand up. |  | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 22:22 - May 14 with 1919 views | vapour_trail |
| Harvey Elliott on 20:48 - May 14 by Churchman |
Surely we had enough experience of the injury prone and has beens with Phillips didn’t we? Experience is one thing, last hurrah pension seekers is another. Unless we can find a Xhaka, Wark, Mowbray type of character, you are better off with the younger and hungrier.
I know people get all dreamy over the big name, marquee signings, but for a club like ITFC, they are a waste of time and money. If I’m proved wrong I’ll be overjoyed to put my hand up. |
Last hurrah pension seeker?
Harvey Elliot is 23 and was player of the tournament at the U21 euros that he led England to victory at last summer. He had missed 84 days to injury over the past four seasons combined. Three weeks per year.
Feel free to put your hand up. | |
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| Harvey Elliott on 07:15 - May 15 with 1579 views | Nutkins_Return |
We need to be careful here with just looking at pedigree. He's a good player but he actually lacks one of the key areas we need to add in the team which is pace. If you have pace all,around in the side like Liverpool you can utilise his quality.
Technically a quality player but I think ultimately Villa realised quickly he didn't fit the attributes they needed. | |
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| Harvey Elliott on 07:32 - May 15 with 1512 views | Churchman |
| Harvey Elliott on 22:22 - May 14 by vapour_trail |
Last hurrah pension seeker?
Harvey Elliot is 23 and was player of the tournament at the U21 euros that he led England to victory at last summer. He had missed 84 days to injury over the past four seasons combined. Three weeks per year.
Feel free to put your hand up. |
I was thinking more of the clamour for the likes of Wilson and Stones, not Elliott who I’d have thought at £70k a week is totally unrealistic as a target.
Feel free to tell me why Villa didn’t play him this season. Was he not good enough or was he trouble? | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 08:06 - May 15 with 1415 views | Herbivore |
| Harvey Elliott on 07:32 - May 15 by Churchman |
I was thinking more of the clamour for the likes of Wilson and Stones, not Elliott who I’d have thought at £70k a week is totally unrealistic as a target.
Feel free to tell me why Villa didn’t play him this season. Was he not good enough or was he trouble? |
All to do with their obligation to buy clause.amd Emery not being convinced he wanted to drop £35m on him. | |
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| Harvey Elliott on 09:04 - May 15 with 1289 views | BloomBlue |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:48 - May 14 by tetchris |
John Stones is on £250k a week so is very unlikely to drop to £40/50k a week which is the maximum town could probably afford to pay him. Elliott is on £65k a week. Wilson is alleged to be on a low weekly wage £6/10k but his contract is heavily incentivised so he gets around £50k a week.
It is believed O’Shea is the highest paid town player on £35k a week. He will probably be offered a new contract now town have been promoted which might take him to £40k a week.
We can’t afford PL players from other clubs as their wages are too high unless it’s a loan deal with wages being split between the two clubs, that’s why he have to look abroad in leagues with wages comparable to top end championship/lower level PL clubs. If town stay in the PL for a few seasons then they could potentially afford these types of players in the future, especially if you can get into one of the European competitions.
I think we will look abroad primarily, consider one or two PL loans or permanent signings from the likes of Chelsea/Man City, and a couple of players from the championship. As we found out last time we were in the PL, players like Ogbene, Szmodics etc just weren’t good enough. When you consider we played similar money for Matisuwa, yet he has been far better value for money. |
Stones has already said, he's at that stage in his career where playing is more important than anything else. In other words he knows he will probably have to take a big pay cut if he wants to play regularly | | | |
| Harvey Elliott on 10:11 - May 15 with 1195 views | Len_Brennan |
| Harvey Elliott on 16:48 - May 14 by tetchris |
John Stones is on £250k a week so is very unlikely to drop to £40/50k a week which is the maximum town could probably afford to pay him. Elliott is on £65k a week. Wilson is alleged to be on a low weekly wage £6/10k but his contract is heavily incentivised so he gets around £50k a week.
It is believed O’Shea is the highest paid town player on £35k a week. He will probably be offered a new contract now town have been promoted which might take him to £40k a week.
We can’t afford PL players from other clubs as their wages are too high unless it’s a loan deal with wages being split between the two clubs, that’s why he have to look abroad in leagues with wages comparable to top end championship/lower level PL clubs. If town stay in the PL for a few seasons then they could potentially afford these types of players in the future, especially if you can get into one of the European competitions.
I think we will look abroad primarily, consider one or two PL loans or permanent signings from the likes of Chelsea/Man City, and a couple of players from the championship. As we found out last time we were in the PL, players like Ogbene, Szmodics etc just weren’t good enough. When you consider we played similar money for Matisuwa, yet he has been far better value for money. |
Were Szmodics & Ogbene just not good enough, or did they both get injured & therefore were not able to play that many games?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that they are superstars that would rip up the PL, but to be fair to them, Szmodics still scored 4 goals in his limited game time & looked a threat, whereas poor old Ogbene got injured so early into his time here, we don't know how he would have gotten on. He had performed well in the PL with Luton & would certainly have started a lot of games in the Wes role for us, had he not had such a bad injury.
They are 2 years older now, & Szmodics is gone for other reasons, but I don't understand why Ogbene is constantly dismissed as though he is a rubbish player, as opposed to somebody who suffered a bad, longterm injury, while playing for us in the PL. | |
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