| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… 13:05 - May 20 with 4983 views | Chris_ITFC |
… has helped Delap to mature and adapt his game………………
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 16:43 - May 20 with 1086 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:46 - May 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
100%.
We need 2 centre forwards. Get one in who knows the club, the players, the manager. Has a great physical profile and has scored goals for us in the prem before.
Then go and get creative and try and find someone abroad whose game translates well to England.
Happy days. |
Being realistic, hard to see us signing anyone who outscores his season with us (probably Delap included!).
Goals from around the pitch has to be better this time round. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 16:53 - May 20 with 1045 views | farkenhell |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:40 - May 20 by RetroBlue |
Tbh, even when he was with us amidst all hype, I thought he was largely limited in his game. He makes up for that lack of guile and aptitude with brawn , and ges still doing it.
I have watched him many times this season with Chelsea and looks completely out of his depth. I really hope he doesn't return here, because hes not good enough. I wish him well, of course, where ever he ends up but long-term I think he'll eventually drop back to the Championship. |
Jesus wept! Watch back his goals against Villa and others, then tell me again that you think he's limited and not good enough for us.
He was being touted as a successor to Kane for a reason. The fact that he's had a crap season at a basket club like Chelsea could end up being hugely in our favour. |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:00 - May 20 with 1033 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 16:43 - May 20 by Chris_ITFC |
Being realistic, hard to see us signing anyone who outscores his season with us (probably Delap included!).
Goals from around the pitch has to be better this time round. |
100%. What Delap did in his debut season was pretty remarkable tbh.
If we persist with the number we absolutely need more involvement from there. Not asking for Prime Chaplin numbers in the prem but you need 5/6 from your attacking players. |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:10 - May 20 with 1009 views | strikalite |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:42 - May 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That’s my number 9 right there.
Bring him home. |
It's a no brainer, he's hardly been flogged to death this season either given the amount of game time he's had..
Still think Newcastle or Leeds will be interested... |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:14 - May 20 with 1000 views | Steve_M |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 16:53 - May 20 by farkenhell |
Jesus wept! Watch back his goals against Villa and others, then tell me again that you think he's limited and not good enough for us.
He was being touted as a successor to Kane for a reason. The fact that he's had a crap season at a basket club like Chelsea could end up being hugely in our favour. |
I find the idea that he 'downed tools' laughable too. A young player in his first full season at PL level who overachieved but couldn't maintain that form for the entire season.
Yes, issues with composure and judgement during some matches but he's also a young player and there should be allowances for some of that.
If we end up with two forwards better than Delap this Summer then we have done remarkably well in the transfer market. |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:30 - May 20 with 984 views | ZapatasMoustache |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:35 - May 20 by Chris_ITFC |
Yeah McKenna would be great for him. For us, on loan, he’d be better value than the money we’d need to sign someone like him permanently. |
I don't disagree. I'd take him in a heartbeat as our no 2 striker on loan. In that situation I'd have Azón as no 3 for something very different (and potentially a substitute 10 for games where we are behind) and send Hirst out on loan myself. But I don't think Delap is quite good enough to lead the line week in and week out. |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:31 - May 20 with 981 views | ZapatasMoustache |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:30 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
I don't disagree. I'd take him in a heartbeat as our no 2 striker on loan. In that situation I'd have Azón as no 3 for something very different (and potentially a substitute 10 for games where we are behind) and send Hirst out on loan myself. But I don't think Delap is quite good enough to lead the line week in and week out. |
Though to be clear I still think he's a complete knucklehead on the pitch. Sometimes battering rams are fine just being battering rams, so you have to take the rough with the smooth. You don't want to rely on it as Plan A however. | | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:36 - May 20 with 973 views | strikalite |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:30 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
I don't disagree. I'd take him in a heartbeat as our no 2 striker on loan. In that situation I'd have Azón as no 3 for something very different (and potentially a substitute 10 for games where we are behind) and send Hirst out on loan myself. But I don't think Delap is quite good enough to lead the line week in and week out. |
Good luck in finding someone better than Delap to play the lone striker...
Make no mistake, the Chelsea experience won't have done him any harm, rubbing shoulders with some top players week in week out.. | | | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:39 - May 20 with 964 views | ZapatasMoustache |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:36 - May 20 by strikalite |
Good luck in finding someone better than Delap to play the lone striker...
Make no mistake, the Chelsea experience won't have done him any harm, rubbing shoulders with some top players week in week out.. |
I don't think it's done him any harm, but I also think it's pretty clear it's done him no good | | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:44 - May 20 with 954 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:14 - May 20 by Steve_M |
I find the idea that he 'downed tools' laughable too. A young player in his first full season at PL level who overachieved but couldn't maintain that form for the entire season.
Yes, issues with composure and judgement during some matches but he's also a young player and there should be allowances for some of that.
If we end up with two forwards better than Delap this Summer then we have done remarkably well in the transfer market. |
Spot on.
Someone pointed out on another thread a while back that he scored the same amount of goals post Xmas as he did pre xmas.
His all round game maybe took a slight dip but that coincided with the whole team essentially running out of gas. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:51 - May 20 with 934 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 17:30 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
I don't disagree. I'd take him in a heartbeat as our no 2 striker on loan. In that situation I'd have Azón as no 3 for something very different (and potentially a substitute 10 for games where we are behind) and send Hirst out on loan myself. But I don't think Delap is quite good enough to lead the line week in and week out. |
Hirst will not be going out on loan. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 18:55 - May 20 with 900 views | Bent_double |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:40 - May 20 by RetroBlue |
Tbh, even when he was with us amidst all hype, I thought he was largely limited in his game. He makes up for that lack of guile and aptitude with brawn , and ges still doing it.
I have watched him many times this season with Chelsea and looks completely out of his depth. I really hope he doesn't return here, because hes not good enough. I wish him well, of course, where ever he ends up but long-term I think he'll eventually drop back to the Championship. |
I think the problem is that he knows he's out of his depth, and his teammates know it too.
He must be very low on confidence, and all the backroom changes at Chelsea since he joined won't have helped.
I'd be surprised if he plays for the Chelsea 1st team again, I think it would be risky bringing him back here, but if anyone can get his confidence back and turn him into a PL player, I think Kieran can. |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 19:02 - May 20 with 894 views | armchaircritic59 |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:21 - May 20 by NthQldITFC |
It's crazy because he's got the power and strength to win those contests legally. Needs another year with McKenna, but not sure if we need another year with him! |
Neither am I, look elsewhere I think. The subtlety of a sledgehammer. |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 19:09 - May 20 with 878 views | redrickstuhaart |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 19:02 - May 20 by armchaircritic59 |
Neither am I, look elsewhere I think. The subtlety of a sledgehammer. |
Im not sure I can cope with watching him endlessly plough into opponents and then do that grin as if to say "why you upset?" like some idiot in a pub trying to start a fight.
Playing for us he is going to get reds. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 20:59 - May 21 with 779 views | Chris_ITFC |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 21:22 - May 21 with 743 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 20:59 - May 21 by Chris_ITFC |
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Delap never looked at the ball once, eyes on Spence the whole time.
And Leif picked up a ban for an apparent hair pull which was 'Violent Conduct' |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 09:02 - May 22 with 662 views | Churchman |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:40 - May 20 by RetroBlue |
Tbh, even when he was with us amidst all hype, I thought he was largely limited in his game. He makes up for that lack of guile and aptitude with brawn , and ges still doing it.
I have watched him many times this season with Chelsea and looks completely out of his depth. I really hope he doesn't return here, because hes not good enough. I wish him well, of course, where ever he ends up but long-term I think he'll eventually drop back to the Championship. |
I thought he looked limited for us too. There are lots of good things in his game but the one thing that impressed me was his focus and directness. He seems to have lost those. Even when he runs at the opposition he has a habit of stopping, passing back, sideways or just getting swamped.
Delap doesn’t seem to have developed his game one iota at Chelsea, which surprises me. There’s a lot wrong with that club and shortfalls in his game. He needs to move and stay somewhere that can develop his obvious ability properly. I understand why he went to Chelsea. Top club, good opportunity, but it’s proven to be the wrong club and a poor decision.
Would I like to see him back here? I’m in two minds. I’m never convinced about a player going back and I’m not sure his style suits us in that he doesn’t bring others into the game which in KMs teams is part of it.
On the other hand, assuming he’s a decent bloke and gets on with others (character), he’s still young, has potential and at the right price or loan fee, why not? |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 09:26 - May 22 with 641 views | BloomBlue |
But would a year in the championship make him a better player?
Just scoring goals doesn't by default improve your ability, to do that you need to continuously play against better players. He's discovered this season the better players/managers have adapted to his strengths and he now needs to develop himself to use those strengths slight different. Including engaging his brain occasionally
Would the same happen in the championship, I doubt it. |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 12:28 - May 22 with 596 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 21:22 - May 21 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Delap never looked at the ball once, eyes on Spence the whole time.
And Leif picked up a ban for an apparent hair pull which was 'Violent Conduct' |
Delap’s lucky his elbow didn’t get caught in Spence’s hairband, or he’d have been off. Fortunately, he only smashed his jaw to bits. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 08:50 - May 27 with 362 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:31 - May 20 by SitfcB |
This did make me laugh.
Chelsea fans hate him.
Bring him back! |
They really do… Look how long that video is!!!
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 10:54 - May 27 with 320 views | glasso |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:48 - May 20 by Exiled2Surrey |
I am with you on whether that is a foul.
My sense is that it is SO difficult as a striker to win that dual - I reckon you have a one in ten chance - if the striker puts the same amount of force into the challenge as the defender, the defender gets the benefit of the doubt every time. I almost wonder if the best course of action is to leave the defender alone completely, hope that they miscontrol the ball, and hope that the ball breaks in your direction. |
LOL, that's what I've been doing for approximately 18 years in Sunday League/VETs football (because I am appalling at heading the ball, despite being a 6ft+ lump), and it doesn't work there. Can't imagine it'd work in the Premier League.
Here's how it generally works out: I watch the ball drop to the defender, ready to pounce on his mistake. He doesn't make a mistake. My teammates shout at me for being a lazy sh*t. Rinse and repeat.
Not sure I'd fancy trying it in front of 50,000 fans every week. | | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 11:13 - May 27 with 307 views | RetroBlue |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 16:53 - May 20 by farkenhell |
Jesus wept! Watch back his goals against Villa and others, then tell me again that you think he's limited and not good enough for us.
He was being touted as a successor to Kane for a reason. The fact that he's had a crap season at a basket club like Chelsea could end up being hugely in our favour. |
...yes he was on fire for those first 3 months maybe 4 months of that PL season. Then defenders sussed his game, and he was largely ineffective. He got frustrated
( as someone else on this thread has stated). In the 12 months since hes left us and played in a better sude making a fair few appearances, hes looked completely lost, and has shown minimal improvement or adaptation to his approach. So yer, as you say, "Jesus "!!! |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 11:17 - May 27 with 302 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 14:21 - May 20 by Lion |
I guess that in today's day and age, that is a foul, but actually, is it really a foul at all?!
I know that he has had a bad season at Chelsea, compounded by injuries and Joao Pedro's excellent form. He could and can be frustrating with those needless fouls. He could do with a bit more coaching and KM is one of the best coaches around imho particularly with young players. He also somewhat downed tools/lost heart/knew he was going to Chelsea in the second half of the season with us. l also agree with the poster who said at times Hirst was a better team player than Delap.
But for all that, watch his goals for us on youtube. He would be a tremendous signing on loan ( permanent never going to happen atm, he is on 100k a week! ) If we sign a better striker than him, or even as good as him it would be remarkable business ! Forget his form for Chelsea, a year ago the media were talking about him replacing Kane for England. Honestly, some of our fans are absolutely deluded saying ' we don't want him ' If we could get him on loan and it is a very big if, it would be fantastic. The learned town fans amongst us do know that, right?! |
Yes, it is definitely a foul to deliberately elbow someone in the face, whilst making no genuine effort to win the ball, even if you use dark-arts manoeuvres to try to conceal the fact that that is what you are doing.
He could have just won the ball and drawn a foul himself, or got a shot away.
He isn't even trying to play percentages there. | | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 11:24 - May 27 with 285 views | TractorJack |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 11:13 - May 27 by RetroBlue |
...yes he was on fire for those first 3 months maybe 4 months of that PL season. Then defenders sussed his game, and he was largely ineffective. He got frustrated
( as someone else on this thread has stated). In the 12 months since hes left us and played in a better sude making a fair few appearances, hes looked completely lost, and has shown minimal improvement or adaptation to his approach. So yer, as you say, "Jesus "!!! |
For me it was more that the whole team dropped off. The away win at Bournemouth was in April and that was probably Delaps most rounded performance in terms of general hold up and link play, including his goal. |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 12:13 - May 27 with 239 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 11:13 - May 27 by RetroBlue |
...yes he was on fire for those first 3 months maybe 4 months of that PL season. Then defenders sussed his game, and he was largely ineffective. He got frustrated
( as someone else on this thread has stated). In the 12 months since hes left us and played in a better sude making a fair few appearances, hes looked completely lost, and has shown minimal improvement or adaptation to his approach. So yer, as you say, "Jesus "!!! |
Yes, he’s too easy to work out and wind up.
I suspect we won’t get anyone better though. | |
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