| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget 22:45 - May 23 with 1864 views | unstableblue |
… have any idea who they were bringing in?
It sounds shambolic. As seems to the case around the country with these new Reform councillors being completely out of their depth.
Surely there needs to be a fit and proper / competence test?!
If I was the employee of a multi million £ business and I found out they were giving management positions to people completely unqualified and who were going to run the company into the ground, I’d be concerned.
Don’t get me wrong, local councils tend to have issues, and councillor calibre challenges. But people who go into them are typically concerned with local issues, connected to the community and have some level of competence.
Is anyone else finding this all a bit bonkers? Let’s perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt and see where they go. But it’s got to be a concern. [Post edited 23 May 22:49]
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 22:55 - May 23 with 1765 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
I was going to commend Sarah Wood, in the first of those clips, for her honesty in admitting that she didn't fully understand the rules of the Council debate process.
How refreshing!
Then I read to the end and discovered that she has put herself forward to be the Leader of the Council.
At which point she goes back into the egotistical moron pile, in my book. |  | | |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 22:56 - May 23 with 1751 views | TwoKnightsInIpswich |
Some of the stories and videos of Reform UK councillors saying that don't understand processes is shambolic.
Farage's ego to stand candidates in every seat has caused this mess. Candidates that weren't vetted correctly and suddenly paper candidates were being elected.
The state of politics in the UK is dire. We don't have a media that calls out lies and factual errors and we now have politicians openly lying, knowing their won't be consequences and have the cheek to shout down the few that do question them.
In a nutshell, we need to wake up or we are doomed! |  | | |
| These are comments from the new leader of our council?: on 22:59 - May 23 with 1704 views | unstableblue |
See comments below, how nice.
Labour are calling foul if Reforms first action on the northern bypass.
Again maybe we do need to give them the benefit of the doubt, they ran on a manifesto pledge of reducing translation costs, and seem to be seeing it through, albeit that’s to say translation is a negative.
“Hadwen has, on several occasions, attracted attention for public statements made in earlier years.
In April 2018, following a joint US-UK statement on malicious cyber activity attributed to the Russian government and shortly after the Salisbury poisonings, he said: “Russia is not my enemy” and that “we should be working with them”.
In the same month, he said that “Enoch [Powell] was right, just behind the times”. The reference was to the late Conservative MP whose 1968 “Rivers of Blood” speech” | |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:00 - May 23 with 1693 views | StokieBlue |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 22:55 - May 23 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I was going to commend Sarah Wood, in the first of those clips, for her honesty in admitting that she didn't fully understand the rules of the Council debate process.
How refreshing!
Then I read to the end and discovered that she has put herself forward to be the Leader of the Council.
At which point she goes back into the egotistical moron pile, in my book. |
One would think that if you want to be a councillor you might research and understand the rules and what you're expected to do before you achieve that goal.
As you say, after not doing that which is bad enough she then puts herself forward to lead the council.
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:00 - May 23 with 1695 views | J2BLUE |
I don't think Reform voters really care what happens next. It's about winning the moment. |  | | |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:01 - May 23 with 1705 views | Fixed_It |
Our local council was 'won' by Reform just over a year ago. Basically, they don't know what they are doing, and make a lot of mistakes by not following due processes, and end up having to backtrack when pulled up by other councillors who actually know how things should be done. They are a shambles, and the thought of them actually trying to run the country is pretty frightening! |  |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:02 - May 23 with 1660 views | unstableblue |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 22:56 - May 23 by TwoKnightsInIpswich |
Some of the stories and videos of Reform UK councillors saying that don't understand processes is shambolic.
Farage's ego to stand candidates in every seat has caused this mess. Candidates that weren't vetted correctly and suddenly paper candidates were being elected.
The state of politics in the UK is dire. We don't have a media that calls out lies and factual errors and we now have politicians openly lying, knowing their won't be consequences and have the cheek to shout down the few that do question them.
In a nutshell, we need to wake up or we are doomed! |
As I said earlier, surely there has to be a fit and proper test?!
The UK media has let Farage of this donation so lightly, that’s a Trumpian level scandal
BBC too scared to be seen as left leaning I think.
We’re in a race to the bottom. And you have to ask why Tendring voters brought in reform councillors when their Reform MP has done zero in his time serving them.
Not sure what the solution is. Labour has had one of their best weeks on metrics, trade deals, NHS - does anyone actually know that?? | |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:56 - May 23 with 1466 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:00 - May 23 by J2BLUE |
I don't think Reform voters really care what happens next. It's about winning the moment. |
Cos they don't.
Their cult is winning and more minorities can be victimised. |  | | |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 00:07 - May 24 with 1445 views | Trequartista |
They've only just started and have already torpedoed the northern bypass. |  |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 00:25 - May 24 with 1405 views | Coastalblue |
But they're owning the lefties and the snowflakes, doesn't really matter after that. |  |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 00:57 - May 24 with 1347 views | BlueBadger |
You're missing the most important thing. The boats are being stopped at the Quay theatre, Sudbury. [Post edited 24 May 1:15]
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 06:39 - May 24 with 1157 views | iamatractorboy |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:02 - May 23 by unstableblue |
As I said earlier, surely there has to be a fit and proper test?!
The UK media has let Farage of this donation so lightly, that’s a Trumpian level scandal
BBC too scared to be seen as left leaning I think.
We’re in a race to the bottom. And you have to ask why Tendring voters brought in reform councillors when their Reform MP has done zero in his time serving them.
Not sure what the solution is. Labour has had one of their best weeks on metrics, trade deals, NHS - does anyone actually know that?? |
Truth and facts don't matter to MAGA, whoops sorry I mean Reform.
In all seriousness, I get more worried each day that the UK is very much on the path that the US is. Absolute truths can just be met with a response of 'FAKE NEWWWWS' or just ignored entirely. Grifting and scapegoating of 'others' will become rampant. Ignoring laws and legal rulings will become the norm. | | | |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 07:32 - May 24 with 1037 views | NthQldITFC |
I've always believed in giving people the benefit of the doubt for a while - you have to if you want to be happy in yourself, I think, and it's just the right thing to do - but you can end up in a behavioural pattern of letting them get away with murder continuously, as one excuse follows another and you just go along with it rather than challenge it.
When it comes down to it, some people just lack integrity and a social conscience. In a personal relationship you might be able to cut them off and do yourself a massive favour, but when they're running a council or - please, no - a country, then you're pretty stuck.
Benefit of the doubt, I suppose, needs to not be a thing at the point when there ceases to be any doubt, and you have to be responsible in yourself for realising and accepting when that point comes. |  |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 07:34 - May 24 with 1025 views | Fixed_It |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 06:39 - May 24 by iamatractorboy |
Truth and facts don't matter to MAGA, whoops sorry I mean Reform.
In all seriousness, I get more worried each day that the UK is very much on the path that the US is. Absolute truths can just be met with a response of 'FAKE NEWWWWS' or just ignored entirely. Grifting and scapegoating of 'others' will become rampant. Ignoring laws and legal rulings will become the norm. |
Yep. Already had Farage question the female reporter from Sky News who she was from and said 'typical Sky News', and blatantly wanted to say 'fake news' but just stopped himself!
If they get in I fear that race hate and bigotry will be legitimised. Things will go downhill rapidly in our society if they do. | |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 15:38 - May 24 with 642 views | GeoffSentence |
I don't understand why they are wasting money on a legal challenge to local government reform. LRG is intended to save money which is what Reform UK are supposed to be about. So why spend a ton of taxpayers money taking it on in court? |  |
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| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 19:03 - May 24 with 389 views | Mark |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 07:34 - May 24 by Fixed_It |
Yep. Already had Farage question the female reporter from Sky News who she was from and said 'typical Sky News', and blatantly wanted to say 'fake news' but just stopped himself!
If they get in I fear that race hate and bigotry will be legitimised. Things will go downhill rapidly in our society if they do. |
If he says that about Sky, imagine what they would do to the BBC!
So many people are getting 'news' from social media, fed by algorithms, and deciding how to vote based on that. If people believe a Russian bot over Sky News, we are in trouble. |  | | |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 19:27 - May 24 with 326 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Do those who voted Reform to lead Suffolk County Council, the £850m budget on 23:02 - May 23 by unstableblue |
As I said earlier, surely there has to be a fit and proper test?!
The UK media has let Farage of this donation so lightly, that’s a Trumpian level scandal
BBC too scared to be seen as left leaning I think.
We’re in a race to the bottom. And you have to ask why Tendring voters brought in reform councillors when their Reform MP has done zero in his time serving them.
Not sure what the solution is. Labour has had one of their best weeks on metrics, trade deals, NHS - does anyone actually know that?? |
We’ve probably never needed a fit and proper test before. Anyone can be a councillor and any new ones will need to learn the role. Most decent people would want to do a good job and would probably ask for support from their fellow councillors, not effectively try and emotionally blackmail the others into not doing their jobs just because you can’t keep up. That’s not your say there won’t have always been crap councillors who don’t care, but it won’t have been a feature of a whole party before.
Just like we discovered under Johnson, our political landscape isn’t really suited to corrupt, incompetent chancers with no shame and buckets of unjustified confidence. A system that relies on unwritten conventions and expectations can’t stand up to someone prepared to ride roughshod over the conventions. If their party gives them a free reign and their colleague encourage them, there’s not a lot that can be done until they’re voted out. |  |
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