| Problems with the building work at ITFC 11:08 - Jun 4 with 9154 views | lurcher |
Large amounts of asbestos have been found in the ground under the fanzone. The programme was already weeks behind and now many projects have been halted to get a specialist clearance company in. |  | | |  |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:00 - Jun 4 with 2144 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 11:42 - Jun 4 by LA_Tractor_Boy |
What other projects have been halted?
I thought we were 'only' expanding the West Stand concourse, replacing the PA system and possibly sorting the WiFi this summer. |
If there is any clearance of asbestos to do they will have to stop any access into the fanzone whilst removal is underway.
You don't take any risks with that stuff.
Saw what it did with my Uncle back in the early 80's having worked on building sites for the first half of his life and at ICI Fibres for the second half. |  |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:04 - Jun 4 with 2131 views | Guthrum |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:00 - Jun 4 by Cheltenham_Blue |
If there is any clearance of asbestos to do they will have to stop any access into the fanzone whilst removal is underway.
You don't take any risks with that stuff.
Saw what it did with my Uncle back in the early 80's having worked on building sites for the first half of his life and at ICI Fibres for the second half. |
Electrician friend of mine died of complications from asbestosis. Years of drilling into old fuse-boxes without a mask in enclosed spaces. |  |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:05 - Jun 4 with 2121 views | stonojnr |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 11:54 - Jun 4 by lurcher |
The concourse at the back of the west and the fan zone are stalled. I don't know about the wifi and PA. But it is feasible that crawl spaces in the lower south, Cobbold and the west lower all have issues with asbestos. I am told it is not just whats dumped under ground |
But you're making it sound like this is all a big sudden surprise.
I posted months ago in one of the stadium development threads that it was full of asbestos and around it, you could tell that just by looking it at and its interior closely and would make any quick redevelopment super tricky.
What did people expect ? it was built in the late 50s and expanded in the 80s when asbestos was just as common a building material as bricks or steel.
Same with Cobbold, and Churchmans because they just built on top of the old stand, north probably escaped because it was just a concrete base with a roof. |  | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:08 - Jun 4 with 2082 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:04 - Jun 4 by Guthrum |
Electrician friend of mine died of complications from asbestosis. Years of drilling into old fuse-boxes without a mask in enclosed spaces. |
Mrs C is a clinical nurse specialist in Lung Cancer.
She was telling me that the 'silent' killer is amongst the wives of people like your friend, and my uncle who spent years washing the overalls of their husbands, not knowing that their overalls were covered with Asbestos fibres. | |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:09 - Jun 4 with 2063 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:05 - Jun 4 by stonojnr |
But you're making it sound like this is all a big sudden surprise.
I posted months ago in one of the stadium development threads that it was full of asbestos and around it, you could tell that just by looking it at and its interior closely and would make any quick redevelopment super tricky.
What did people expect ? it was built in the late 50s and expanded in the 80s when asbestos was just as common a building material as bricks or steel.
Same with Cobbold, and Churchmans because they just built on top of the old stand, north probably escaped because it was just a concrete base with a roof. |
Not sure they were expecting to find it under the astro in the Fanzone. | |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:09 - Jun 4 with 1895 views | DJR |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 12:40 - Jun 4 by PhilTWTD |
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Pardon! [Post edited 4 Jun 14:10]
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:14 - Jun 4 with 1869 views | lurcher |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:05 - Jun 4 by stonojnr |
But you're making it sound like this is all a big sudden surprise.
I posted months ago in one of the stadium development threads that it was full of asbestos and around it, you could tell that just by looking it at and its interior closely and would make any quick redevelopment super tricky.
What did people expect ? it was built in the late 50s and expanded in the 80s when asbestos was just as common a building material as bricks or steel.
Same with Cobbold, and Churchmans because they just built on top of the old stand, north probably escaped because it was just a concrete base with a roof. |
I have been told that the proper process of checking for the stuff wasn't carried out.
The large amount under the practice pitch/fanzone was totally unexpected. | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:16 - Jun 4 with 1846 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:14 - Jun 4 by lurcher |
I have been told that the proper process of checking for the stuff wasn't carried out.
The large amount under the practice pitch/fanzone was totally unexpected. |
You'd normally be looking at 2-3 weeks for removal on a commercial job. I would imagine timescales were already tight. | |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:40 - Jun 4 with 1780 views | lurcher |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:16 - Jun 4 by Cheltenham_Blue |
You'd normally be looking at 2-3 weeks for removal on a commercial job. I would imagine timescales were already tight. |
I was told current works 'were' 3 weeks behind schedule. | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:58 - Jun 4 with 1698 views | Zx1988 |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:08 - Jun 4 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Mrs C is a clinical nurse specialist in Lung Cancer.
She was telling me that the 'silent' killer is amongst the wives of people like your friend, and my uncle who spent years washing the overalls of their husbands, not knowing that their overalls were covered with Asbestos fibres. |
Yup.
My great uncle died of Asbestosis back in late-2020, at the age of 85.
He'd spent his apprenticeship in the 1950s with the Central Electricity Generating Board, as it was known back then, and part of his work had involved smashing asbestos lagging off pipework with no protective equipment whatsoever. My great aunt, who would only have been a child at the time, remembered her brother coming home covered in white dust.
That generation has all passed away now, but it's a miracle that nobody else in that household died of anything asbestos-related. [Post edited 4 Jun 15:04]
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 15:42 - Jun 4 with 1617 views | NthQldITFC |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 12:56 - Jun 4 by SitfcB |
Look forward to people moaning that it’s too loud. |
Pardon? |  |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 15:45 - Jun 4 with 1604 views | NthQldITFC |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:09 - Jun 4 by DJR |
Pardon! [Post edited 4 Jun 14:10]
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Sorry. Pardon me. | |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 15:55 - Jun 4 with 1563 views | Swansea_Blue |
Ah, can’t they just make that part the away supporters bit?  |  |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 16:01 - Jun 4 with 1539 views | Churchman |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 13:05 - Jun 4 by stonojnr |
But you're making it sound like this is all a big sudden surprise.
I posted months ago in one of the stadium development threads that it was full of asbestos and around it, you could tell that just by looking it at and its interior closely and would make any quick redevelopment super tricky.
What did people expect ? it was built in the late 50s and expanded in the 80s when asbestos was just as common a building material as bricks or steel.
Same with Cobbold, and Churchmans because they just built on top of the old stand, north probably escaped because it was just a concrete base with a roof. |
The Cobbold (Portman) Stand was built on the site of the old Chicken Run which was relocated to Foxhall Speedway track (and blown down in 87).
However, given it was put up in prefabricated sections in 1971 the extended in 74/75, I dread to think what is present within the structure. A lot of asbestos probably!
Asbestos was known as a killer by the mid 80s but I suspect more or less up until then it’s been used in building for decades and old structures with it in just buried in the ground.
Dreadful stuff. Although my mum’s brother died of a number of things asbestosis was one of them. He’d worked on the North Sea rigs back in the day and thought that’s where he’d got it - as you can imagine there was tons of the stuff on them. |  | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 16:37 - Jun 4 with 1440 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 14:40 - Jun 4 by lurcher |
I was told current works 'were' 3 weeks behind schedule. |
Didn't work only start 3-4 weeks ago? A 3 week slip already incurred sounds unlikely so soon. | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 16:42 - Jun 4 with 1421 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 16:37 - Jun 4 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Didn't work only start 3-4 weeks ago? A 3 week slip already incurred sounds unlikely so soon. |
Yeah but they've spent 3 weeks leaning on a shovel and shaking their heads. | |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 17:20 - Jun 4 with 1336 views | GeoffSentence |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 11:16 - Jun 4 by Guthrum |
Historically, asbestos was used for an extraordinary range of things (it's why I'm very wary of doing any abrasive or drilling work on pre-1990s artex ceilings). Considered something of a miracle material.
All long before the health problems were widely understood. |
The health risks of asbestos have been known for a very long time, over a century. In fact the early signs were seen in the 19th century. Successive governments failed to do anything about it because of industry lobbying and misinformation. Profits before people as usual.
Disgracefully it was only finally banned in the UK in 1999. |  |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 17:30 - Jun 4 with 1292 views | tivo |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 11:48 - Jun 4 by lurcher |
It has been bought and Wanderers will get 9 more seasons there. A new 4K capacity stadium will be built there. |
Bought? By who? IW lease it no? | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 17:47 - Jun 4 with 1228 views | Ipswich_Crazy |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 11:48 - Jun 4 by SitfcB |
PA system won’t be replaced until the new stands are in.
WiFi? Doesn’t really matter. |
Mark Ashton said the PA system will be replaced in the Summer. |  |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 05:56 - Jun 5 with 903 views | lurcher |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 16:37 - Jun 4 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Didn't work only start 3-4 weeks ago? A 3 week slip already incurred sounds unlikely so soon. |
Season ended 5 weeks ago. Projects have forecasted end dates. If estimation was poor, progressive insight can move the forecasted end date out. | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 06:02 - Jun 5 with 897 views | lurcher |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 17:30 - Jun 4 by tivo |
Bought? By who? IW lease it no? |
IW have had use of the land for free, providing they look after site. ITFC bought the land from the land owner, last season. ITFC are allowing IW to play there for 10 years, 1 year of that agreement has now passed. | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 06:04 - Jun 5 with 893 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 05:56 - Jun 5 by lurcher |
Season ended 5 weeks ago. Projects have forecasted end dates. If estimation was poor, progressive insight can move the forecasted end date out. |
So in a parallel universe, a 3 week delay means we started work after winning the play-off final. All good.  | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 07:58 - Jun 5 with 778 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 05:56 - Jun 5 by lurcher |
Season ended 5 weeks ago. Projects have forecasted end dates. If estimation was poor, progressive insight can move the forecasted end date out. |
Not really.
Season finished on May 3rd. Soonest the works could have started with the bank holiday was Tuesday May 6th, but reports seem to have suggested they started week beginning May 11th (first reported on May 13th) - a little over 3 weeks ago. With those timelines, being behind by 3 weeks already is not likely. | | | |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 08:30 - Jun 5 with 695 views | WeWereZombies |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 12:56 - Jun 4 by SitfcB |
Look forward to people moaning that it’s too loud. |
It doesn't have to be too loud if the fidelity of the broadcast sound is good quality and there are sufficient broadcast points for that sound to reach everyone. The problems with the public address systems at Portman Road over the years seem to me that the Club have gone for cheap as chips and rough as guts options. |  |
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| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 08:32 - Jun 5 with 691 views | urbanpenguin |
| Problems with the building work at ITFC on 12:10 - Jun 4 by SitfcB |
Where was that said? Good if so, need it, but Ashton always said it was such a massive job. |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art |  |
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