| Something doesn't feel right about this for me 22:39 - Jun 10 with 13142 views | ITFC_Essex |
I may get a few pelters for bringing this up, and maybe I am being a touch emotional, but something doesn’t feel right.
Ordinarily I would take the statement at face value, a break, family, and so on, but since Farage-gate I have a bitter taste in my mouth and feel I must ask questions of what is happening behind the scenes here. I don’t say this to bring division, but McKenna’s comments since Farage-gate have felt very distant, his statement upon promotion about the changes he had to almost fight here in terms of personnel (against his will) made this his hardest promotion and you just got a feeling, that there is/was something else.
He didn’t seem like he was staying, even then, even though I wanted to believe otherwise.
The club, in terms of communication doesn’t have a lot of credit left in the bank for me, things like telling us Brandon Williams and Omari having flu, seemed minor at the time, but since the nonsense with Farage, especially the lies afterward and the fake apology from Ashton, I just don’t have a good feeling about the man or trust what the club puts out. Some of the statements made by ex-players, we howled at like Wolfenden, or Broadheads family on socials, about their game time and departures. It just all doesn’t feel as straightforward as it might appear. Even the Sam S stuff going round seemed bizarre, utterly bizarre.
We have one man wielding all the power of a CEO and Chairman, a man that appears to be almost un sackable. You have a situation where clubs like Fulham are showing interest, and McKenna chooses to walk away, allegedly 2-weeks ago after promotion. Really? A manager very much looking upwards in his career, and a club, Ipswich, on paper, that we’re told is much better prepared than last time for the Premier League. After McKenna walking away before a ball is kicked, I am not so sure, in fact, I am very sceptical of the whole thing.
It seems, with the poor pool of managers available for us to attract, and a key element of our success in effect walking away, this wasn’t exactly an ideal time for a change. I also fear than many key players will be for the chopping block soon, and I don’t know if yet have the scope in terms of recruitment, to bed a new manager, new team and adjust to the Premier League in one swoop. I think this could all end very badly for us if we get it wrong, and Ashton will be the villain if it does.
Maybe I am wrong, but Ashton lost my trust and something doesn’t feel right about any of this. Especially given that we were told that McKenna had a big hand in the new facilities and so on. I feel there’s been a falling out, and I think at the centre of that was the nonsense with Nigel Farage.
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:43 - Jun 10 with 7202 views | BackToRussia |
I can see where you are coming from, and that's on Ashton for casting that doubt in people's minds. But I honestly don't think KM would leave for that reason. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:44 - Jun 10 with 7156 views | SomethingBlue |
You're overthinking this one, it's McKenna choosing to go out in the loveliest way while also doing what is right for him and his young family. It hurts but that's all it is. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:46 - Jun 10 with 7061 views | vapour_trail |
Ashton dragged the club through the dirt with that episode but I’d be amazed if that’s a factor in McKenna going.
I think he’s just decided it’s the best long term option for his career. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:47 - Jun 10 with 6982 views | waveneyblue |
Excellent work linking Farage's visit and McKenna's departure.
To coin a phrase from Family Fortunes, if that's one of the reasons, I will give you the money myself. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:47 - Jun 10 with 6973 views | FrimleyBlue |
It just feels very un KM
I just don't get personally how you'd hold a position at Utd, have a big team around you at town, succeed and then just randomly take a break. The cutting of his voice at the end of the video just doesn't seem to be from a fella that's doing something he's thought long and hard about and is at peace with that decision. It feels forced. The reason for that we won't know, we wont know what side or why, but I just can't believe it's simply to take a break. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:48 - Jun 10 with 6972 views | bsw72 |
You are obviously free to think what you want, but why would KM walk away and not make it clear that the reasons are what you have outlined, makes no sense and brings KMs integrity into question. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:51 - Jun 10 with 6814 views | Vaughan8 |
I cannot believe it's about Farage.
Something may not feel right, but it's not that. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:52 - Jun 10 with 6788 views | Simonds92 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:47 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
It just feels very un KM
I just don't get personally how you'd hold a position at Utd, have a big team around you at town, succeed and then just randomly take a break. The cutting of his voice at the end of the video just doesn't seem to be from a fella that's doing something he's thought long and hard about and is at peace with that decision. It feels forced. The reason for that we won't know, we wont know what side or why, but I just can't believe it's simply to take a break. |
Or it's someone who is going to miss the place and is reflective of all the good times and emotions he's been through. It might be he doesn't really want to make this decision but is forced to do so because of family issues. | | | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:52 - Jun 10 with 6754 views | tonybied |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:44 - Jun 10 by SomethingBlue |
You're overthinking this one, it's McKenna choosing to go out in the loveliest way while also doing what is right for him and his young family. It hurts but that's all it is. |
I dunno, something seems fishy to me too. How often do managers just walk away from their posts? Especially ones that constantly tell their players to soak everything in, and enjoy it all, as they are in such a privileged position.
Something definitely stinks here. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:54 - Jun 10 with 6661 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:52 - Jun 10 by Simonds92 |
Or it's someone who is going to miss the place and is reflective of all the good times and emotions he's been through. It might be he doesn't really want to make this decision but is forced to do so because of family issues. |
It might be he doesn't really want to make this decision but is forced to do so because of family issues.
yeah i put that in my post. its not for us to know either. Just replying to the OP that i don't feel it's a choice he's made because he wants to do it but more he has too. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:55 - Jun 10 with 6598 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:48 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
You are obviously free to think what you want, but why would KM walk away and not make it clear that the reasons are what you have outlined, makes no sense and brings KMs integrity into question. |
It doesn't for me, we've all had toxic bosses and maybe this was an out.
Maybe he did have a chance to move on but the stumbling block was the compensation and they couldn't agree with an out, I can see why, Ashton couldn't lose McKenna to a rival club and McKenna wouldn't be forced to stay, so maybe this was the only way?
But I just can't take anything the club says at face value any longer, fool me once... | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:55 - Jun 10 with 6590 views | Zx1988 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:47 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
It just feels very un KM
I just don't get personally how you'd hold a position at Utd, have a big team around you at town, succeed and then just randomly take a break. The cutting of his voice at the end of the video just doesn't seem to be from a fella that's doing something he's thought long and hard about and is at peace with that decision. It feels forced. The reason for that we won't know, we wont know what side or why, but I just can't believe it's simply to take a break. |
Yup, definitely the demeanor of a man who really doesn't want to go but, for whatever reason, knows he has to. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:55 - Jun 10 with 6588 views | vapour_trail |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:52 - Jun 10 by tonybied |
I dunno, something seems fishy to me too. How often do managers just walk away from their posts? Especially ones that constantly tell their players to soak everything in, and enjoy it all, as they are in such a privileged position.
Something definitely stinks here. |
I don’t think it stinks. I just don’t think he sees us a a good option for him now and sees a repeat of the last EPL season as our likely fate. He doesn’t want in. That’s fair enough.
We have to work very hard to make sure that doesn’t happen. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:57 - Jun 10 with 6486 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:55 - Jun 10 by ITFC_Essex |
It doesn't for me, we've all had toxic bosses and maybe this was an out.
Maybe he did have a chance to move on but the stumbling block was the compensation and they couldn't agree with an out, I can see why, Ashton couldn't lose McKenna to a rival club and McKenna wouldn't be forced to stay, so maybe this was the only way?
But I just can't take anything the club says at face value any longer, fool me once... |
You do also question what stories make there way around PR nowadays
that's twice now that phils sources have fed different stories to what;'s happening, although i guess its true in that he hasn't joined fulham. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:58 - Jun 10 with 6492 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:47 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
It just feels very un KM
I just don't get personally how you'd hold a position at Utd, have a big team around you at town, succeed and then just randomly take a break. The cutting of his voice at the end of the video just doesn't seem to be from a fella that's doing something he's thought long and hard about and is at peace with that decision. It feels forced. The reason for that we won't know, we wont know what side or why, but I just can't believe it's simply to take a break. |
I was 39 when I was hospitalised after a breakdown. Been working in investment banking for over 15 years, successful, well paid, happily married. I was working over 60 hours per week, with a young family, was tired but kept pushing on.
Didn’t recognise the signs of exhaustion, ended up having a breakdown in the office, followed by several months off work and an extended period in therapy.
Why tell you this, how is it relevant? Because no one knows what is going on in other people’s lives, what pressure has done to them and how they are feeling mentally. None of my friends knew how close to the edge I was, I was and still am very good at presenting a strong public image while inside I am crumbling.
Several times last season I thought how exhausted KM looked, and then think about the pressure he has been under and the standards he has set.
I have no reason to doubt what he has said and done, he’s earned the right to take some time out and leave the club in a great position. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:58 - Jun 10 with 6433 views | LeoMuff |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:52 - Jun 10 by tonybied |
I dunno, something seems fishy to me too. How often do managers just walk away from their posts? Especially ones that constantly tell their players to soak everything in, and enjoy it all, as they are in such a privileged position.
Something definitely stinks here. |
I did initially think he wanted Fulham, they won’t pay the release so has walked as we wouldn’t negotiate.
But having watched that video, you can’t fake that emotion, he couldn’t seem more genuine and warm to us, Ashton and all at ITFC.
I just hope he is just needing a break and all is ok with him and his family. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:58 - Jun 10 with 6431 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:55 - Jun 10 by ITFC_Essex |
It doesn't for me, we've all had toxic bosses and maybe this was an out.
Maybe he did have a chance to move on but the stumbling block was the compensation and they couldn't agree with an out, I can see why, Ashton couldn't lose McKenna to a rival club and McKenna wouldn't be forced to stay, so maybe this was the only way?
But I just can't take anything the club says at face value any longer, fool me once... |
Can you take what McKenna says at face value? |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:00 - Jun 10 with 6369 views | Illinoisblue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:47 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
It just feels very un KM
I just don't get personally how you'd hold a position at Utd, have a big team around you at town, succeed and then just randomly take a break. The cutting of his voice at the end of the video just doesn't seem to be from a fella that's doing something he's thought long and hard about and is at peace with that decision. It feels forced. The reason for that we won't know, we wont know what side or why, but I just can't believe it's simply to take a break. |
In what way does it feel forced? Never seen a more genuine and honest statement from a manager |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:01 - Jun 10 with 6356 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:58 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
I was 39 when I was hospitalised after a breakdown. Been working in investment banking for over 15 years, successful, well paid, happily married. I was working over 60 hours per week, with a young family, was tired but kept pushing on.
Didn’t recognise the signs of exhaustion, ended up having a breakdown in the office, followed by several months off work and an extended period in therapy.
Why tell you this, how is it relevant? Because no one knows what is going on in other people’s lives, what pressure has done to them and how they are feeling mentally. None of my friends knew how close to the edge I was, I was and still am very good at presenting a strong public image while inside I am crumbling.
Several times last season I thought how exhausted KM looked, and then think about the pressure he has been under and the standards he has set.
I have no reason to doubt what he has said and done, he’s earned the right to take some time out and leave the club in a great position. |
While I agree entirely on taking that seriously, and I won't hold this against McKenna, but he will be back in the job (at a good level) as soon as he's legally able to, in my view. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:01 - Jun 10 with 6326 views | portmanking |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:52 - Jun 10 by tonybied |
I dunno, something seems fishy to me too. How often do managers just walk away from their posts? Especially ones that constantly tell their players to soak everything in, and enjoy it all, as they are in such a privileged position.
Something definitely stinks here. |
Well, he hasn't just walked away.
It's a 12-month gardening leave, essentially. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:01 - Jun 10 with 6323 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I think the guy is truly burnt out and the prospect of another season battling away at (likely) the bottom of the Premier League, spending days on end where he barely sees his kids (which is what he has had to do over the last few years) is something that he simply doesn't have the energy to do.
Kieran McKenna has run this football club, everything is in his image. Ashton is the Ceo/Chairman etc etc but Mckenna is the glue that holds all this together. When Ashton couldn't have a private lunch, who was the bloke who had to face the media questions and who was the guy who really calmed down the fanbase. Im not saying the Farage thing is why he left, just an example.
The point is, I bet that the bloke is absolutely exhausted. [Post edited 10 Jun 23:02]
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:02 - Jun 10 with 6296 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:01 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Well, he hasn't just walked away.
It's a 12-month gardening leave, essentially. |
So what you are saying he's back in for the 4th promotion?
I like that. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:03 - Jun 10 with 6236 views | el_granjero |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:52 - Jun 10 by tonybied |
I dunno, something seems fishy to me too. How often do managers just walk away from their posts? Especially ones that constantly tell their players to soak everything in, and enjoy it all, as they are in such a privileged position.
Something definitely stinks here. |
I don't think it's all that deep, really. He's ambitious. If the right job had been available this summer, he'd have gone there. However, the right job isn't available, so he's leaving now while his stock is high to preserve his reputation for when something suitable does come up. Sticking around would be a risk. I'm sure he's also factored in the fact that it's the least bad time for him to quit from the club's pov. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:05 - Jun 10 with 6154 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:55 - Jun 10 by ITFC_Essex |
It doesn't for me, we've all had toxic bosses and maybe this was an out.
Maybe he did have a chance to move on but the stumbling block was the compensation and they couldn't agree with an out, I can see why, Ashton couldn't lose McKenna to a rival club and McKenna wouldn't be forced to stay, so maybe this was the only way?
But I just can't take anything the club says at face value any longer, fool me once... |
Still doesn’t explain why KM has gone along with it and made the comments he has, if he wanted a break because of something darker behind the scenes, he would have made it public so other clubs could come in and get him.
This is where your theory falls down unless you can explain how KM shouldering all the reasons not speaking up and yet still leaving the club eligible for compensation. I’m curious. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:05 - Jun 10 with 6134 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:00 - Jun 10 by Illinoisblue |
In what way does it feel forced? Never seen a more genuine and honest statement from a manager |
Because for me, if you've taken the time to think about something and go on and do it, you're at peace with that decision, that end of the video for me at least showed someone who really didn't want to walk away but had to. Why we won't know and don;t need to know. It may be for private reasons, i just don't sense it's a decision made because he 'wants' too | |
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