| Something doesn't feel right about this for me 22:39 - Jun 10 with 4159 views | ITFC_Essex |
I may get a few pelters for bringing this up, and maybe I am being a touch emotional, but something doesn’t feel right.
Ordinarily I would take the statement at face value, a break, family, and so on, but since Farage-gate I have a bitter taste in my mouth and feel I must ask questions of what is happening behind the scenes here. I don’t say this to bring division, but McKenna’s comments since Farage-gate have felt very distant, his statement upon promotion about the changes he had to almost fight here in terms of personnel (against his will) made this his hardest promotion and you just got a feeling, that there is/was something else.
He didn’t seem like he was staying, even then, even though I wanted to believe otherwise.
The club, in terms of communication doesn’t have a lot of credit left in the bank for me, things like telling us Brandon Williams and Omari having flu, seemed minor at the time, but since the nonsense with Farage, especially the lies afterward and the fake apology from Ashton, I just don’t have a good feeling about the man or trust what the club puts out. Some of the statements made by ex-players, we howled at like Wolfenden, or Broadheads family on socials, about their game time and departures. It just all doesn’t feel as straightforward as it might appear. Even the Sam S stuff going round seemed bizarre, utterly bizarre.
We have one man wielding all the power of a CEO and Chairman, a man that appears to be almost un sackable. You have a situation where clubs like Fulham are showing interest, and McKenna chooses to walk away, allegedly 2-weeks ago after promotion. Really? A manager very much looking upwards in his career, and a club, Ipswich, on paper, that we’re told is much better prepared than last time for the Premier League. After McKenna walking away before a ball is kicked, I am not so sure, in fact, I am very sceptical of the whole thing.
It seems, with the poor pool of managers available for us to attract, and a key element of our success in effect walking away, this wasn’t exactly an ideal time for a change. I also fear than many key players will be for the chopping block soon, and I don’t know if yet have the scope in terms of recruitment, to bed a new manager, new team and adjust to the Premier League in one swoop. I think this could all end very badly for us if we get it wrong, and Ashton will be the villain if it does.
Maybe I am wrong, but Ashton lost my trust and something doesn’t feel right about any of this. Especially given that we were told that McKenna had a big hand in the new facilities and so on. I feel there’s been a falling out, and I think at the centre of that was the nonsense with Nigel Farage.
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:26 - Jun 10 with 570 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:17 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
And you know this because? |
Maybe because that's what Kieran said? [Post edited 10 Jun 23:26]
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:26 - Jun 10 with 555 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:09 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
So why go along with it? Are Ashton and Farage holding his family hostage? |
Integrity perhaps? |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:27 - Jun 10 with 553 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:20 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You may have heard of gagging clauses! |
How would that work when you are leaving of your own accord and not being compensated for it? |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:28 - Jun 10 with 535 views | portmanking |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:16 - Jun 10 by Zx1988 |
Still drawing a salary, then?
Does that mean that EIEIEIO was actually on to something earlier? |
Correct.
Still salaried and compensation will be due if he gets a job in the next 12 months. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:29 - Jun 10 with 518 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:18 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
I haven't alluded to that, I made it clear that it could be anything, it doesn't have to be club related. |
So it might just be he feels he needs a break then? |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:30 - Jun 10 with 502 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:28 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Correct.
Still salaried and compensation will be due if he gets a job in the next 12 months. |
Can't be right, surely if KM requested to leave we'd have frozen his contract so we're not still paying it, and then when he joins another club they'd have to unfreeze the contract and pay the compensation. Surely we haven't allowed him to leave, still pay him and allow him to move freely in 12 months time. That's not protecting the club, that's financially ridiculous. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:31 - Jun 10 with 477 views | Illinoisblue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:23 - Jun 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This says it perfectly, and resonates with my own experiences.
If anyone doubts the drain on McKenna - I’m sure you’ve all been watching the videos of his time with us; compare how he looked when he signed for us vs how he looks today. His looks have aged far more than 4 1/2 years. |
Thought he looked particularly drained at the end of the Southampton away game. Which was ironic as it was possibly the best we’d played all season. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:31 - Jun 10 with 475 views | portmanking |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:30 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Can't be right, surely if KM requested to leave we'd have frozen his contract so we're not still paying it, and then when he joins another club they'd have to unfreeze the contract and pay the compensation. Surely we haven't allowed him to leave, still pay him and allow him to move freely in 12 months time. That's not protecting the club, that's financially ridiculous. |
If he gets a job within 12 months (which sounds very likely from what I'm hearing). The compensation will cover that and then some. | | | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:32 - Jun 10 with 460 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:26 - Jun 10 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Maybe because that's what Kieran said? [Post edited 10 Jun 23:26]
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I nearly answered this reply before someone made it. That's an incredibly naive response in the corporate world of gagging clauses and how whistle blowing tends to work out. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:32 - Jun 10 with 454 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:28 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Correct.
Still salaried and compensation will be due if he gets a job in the next 12 months. |
No suggestion he will still be salaried.
Stop making things up. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 with 437 views | portmanking |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:32 - Jun 10 by redrickstuhaart |
No suggestion he will still be salaried.
Stop making things up. |
Okay, mate. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 with 435 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:31 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
If he gets a job within 12 months (which sounds very likely from what I'm hearing). The compensation will cover that and then some. |
Hmm, that makes me feel we wanted him to commit or leave rather than have a summer/season of will he won't he. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 with 431 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:32 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I nearly answered this reply before someone made it. That's an incredibly naive response in the corporate world of gagging clauses and how whistle blowing tends to work out. |
Again, how do you negotiate a "gagging" clause when the person is leaving of their own accord. There is no leverage, because you aren't paying them anything in return for it. | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 with 422 views | boysof1981 |
I don’t think the Farage episode has anything to do with, but I’d bet Ashton is at the heart of all the issues. Why would KM do all this work on, and off the pitch to then just walk away. Surely he’d have wanted to give the PL another go?
Unless he has family issues to deal with away from football?
Whatever the reason, it’s certainly odd in my eyes. Glad it’s all over in sooner rather than closer to the beginning of the new season, and it also puts to bed all these rumours of him going here or there. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 with 413 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:20 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You may have heard of gagging clauses! |
I am well aware of NDAs and so called gagging orders but I’m curious as to how the club would apply one to KM in this case when he is the one shouldering all the reasons personally for leaving. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:37 - Jun 10 with 351 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:28 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Correct.
Still salaried and compensation will be due if he gets a job in the next 12 months. |
So maybe we'll learn more in 12 months, no compensation and likely not working here again at that point is what you're saying? | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:51 - Jun 10 with 280 views | waveneyblue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:47 - Jun 10 by waveneyblue |
Excellent work linking Farage's visit and McKenna's departure.
To coin a phrase from Family Fortunes, if that's one of the reasons, I will give you the money myself. |
Aw look at all those lovely downvotes and not even a particularly controversial comment.
My fan club out in force again tonight.
Hugs to you all, especially you BigAl xx |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:52 - Jun 10 with 269 views | vapour_trail |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:51 - Jun 10 by waveneyblue |
Aw look at all those lovely downvotes and not even a particularly controversial comment.
My fan club out in force again tonight.
Hugs to you all, especially you BigAl xx |
So precious. |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:00 - Jun 11 with 221 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:26 - Jun 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Integrity perhaps? |
Explain how not being honest about the reasons suggested in this thread for leaving a job is an integrity thing, that doesn’t make sense. Surely the integrity move is to tell the truth and explain the real reasons.
Some on this thread suggest that KM is being disingenuous about his reasons for leaving which seems disrespectful to him. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:02 - Jun 11 with 216 views | Libero |
Modest Mark Ashton is a total w@nker, but I do think it's unfair to assume McKenna's departure has anything to do with him.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that front, until I hear anything to the contrary.
ASHTON OUT. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:08 - Jun 11 with 178 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:34 - Jun 10 by redrickstuhaart |
Again, how do you negotiate a "gagging" clause when the person is leaving of their own accord. There is no leverage, because you aren't paying them anything in return for it. |
Seems you're just ignoring information that's uncomfortable, sounds like he's still getting paid to me! | |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:41 - Jun 11 with 120 views | WicklowBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:51 - Jun 10 by waveneyblue |
Aw look at all those lovely downvotes and not even a particularly controversial comment.
My fan club out in force again tonight.
Hugs to you all, especially you BigAl xx |
Give it a rest for once please! Be nice for you not to hijack a thread abd make it about yourself. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:41 - Jun 11 with 120 views | armchaircritic59 |
Let's just give all the theories a rest, in the end it doesn't matter, it's happened. Kieran will be moving on after his sabbatical with the best wishes of almost everyone. We need to as well and quickly. New manager, new players, new season. A hell of a lot to do. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:48 - Jun 11 with 103 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Oh FFS |  |
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| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 00:51 - Jun 11 with 97 views | itfc_statman |
I still remember a decent % of posters on here defending the club re Farage and how the club couldn't possibly lie.
Ashton is what he is. Hes been successful here but hes an absolutely awful individual who'll throw anyone under the bus for his own career.
McKenna is the polar opposite. If anyone thinks this is genuinely just McKenna fancying a break on the 11th of June then crack on. It'll all come out in the wash eventually. | | | |
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