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Of course it was against us. I do not like how he looks down on us plus he is all too happy to critcise his players in public. His overall record is okay but I just do not like how he comes accross. Not likeable and not humble, completely different to Kmc. I'd rather a manager with worse credentials but with a personality akin to being an Ipswich manager.
As for Ashton blocking out the outside noise this does not go along with his proposed philosophy. Of course you cannot base your decision purely on what fans want. However you have to realise if 90% of the fanbase are not keen then that by design will mean the manager will get less grace and therefore the situation could get unfavourable with a bad start vs a different manager that were to have the same start. So Ashton should absolutely see what the consensus is among fans. Remember as always he says the fans are what makes a club.....so making a lot of the unhappy from the off is not a clever move.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:21 - Jun 20 with 1951 views
90% of the fans are against this appointment? Where did you get that from? Not super excited about it myself, but he must have something about him and his track record is nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. I remember thinking he'd been very hard done by by Bournemouth at the time.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:35 - Jun 20 with 1858 views
Just because a few fans are posting on pedogram, cocksuck, facistbook or whatever Instagram, tiktok, facebook are called these days doesn't equal 90%.
Plus if the owners listen to fans Sir Bob would have gone after one season If one club should look at the evidence of the importance of ignoring fans, its ITFC, without ignoring them re Sir Bob then we wouldn't have half the successful history we have.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:37 - Jun 20 with 1814 views
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:21 - Jun 20 by CaptainAhab
90% of the fans are against this appointment? Where did you get that from? Not super excited about it myself, but he must have something about him and his track record is nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. I remember thinking he'd been very hard done by by Bournemouth at the time.
Maybe that's taken that from a figure someone else mentioned. Certainly seems high though. For the record I think he's a good tactician and will support him. I just don't think he's the most likelbe chap in the world and that could hinder the situation especially if the start is bad.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:44 - Jun 20 with 1733 views
Some people are bending over backwards to hammer the new manager before a ball has even been kicked. Now the decision has been made (and lets be honest it's a far better decision than going with OGS!) We don't need negativity around him, we all need to be positive and behind the team, ahead of what is going to be a difficult season.
That being said, this clip does highlight exactly what concerns me about O'Neil: 'I'll continue to protect the players'.... proceeds to dig everyone out and blame everyone but himself. I think at some point it will blow up due to that kind of behaviour. However, he may be aware that he can't keep doing that and he needs a stable job where he builds a good team mentality.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:49 - Jun 20 with 1710 views
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:21 - Jun 20 by CaptainAhab
90% of the fans are against this appointment? Where did you get that from? Not super excited about it myself, but he must have something about him and his track record is nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. I remember thinking he'd been very hard done by by Bournemouth at the time.
Watch the video, and in particular the contempt with which he says "Ipswich".
The points made in the OP are good ones. He doesn't come across well, he throws his players under the bus, and he thinks Ipswich are well beneath him, in this clip. And a manager who is welcomed by fans DOES have more credit in the bank than one who is greeted by what can be described as an underwhelmed response, at best.
We all need to remember though: Ipswich is Mark Ashton's Club, not ours. He says so himself. He always says "My Club", not "Our Club". Why would he listen to the fans? About this or anything else?
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:50 - Jun 20 with 1693 views
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:35 - Jun 20 by BloomBlue
90%??
Just because a few fans are posting on pedogram, cocksuck, facistbook or whatever Instagram, tiktok, facebook are called these days doesn't equal 90%.
Plus if the owners listen to fans Sir Bob would have gone after one season If one club should look at the evidence of the importance of ignoring fans, its ITFC, without ignoring them re Sir Bob then we wouldn't have half the successful history we have.
It's more than half.
"Just because a few fans are posting on pedogram, cocksuck, facistbook or whatever Instagram, tiktok, facebook are called these days doesn't equal 90%"
If you have to explain the joke within the joke then it's not really a joke. Especially when you pretend not to know then completely wrote them all down lol
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:54 - Jun 20 with 1648 views
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:37 - Jun 20 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O
Maybe that's taken that from a figure someone else mentioned. Certainly seems high though. For the record I think he's a good tactician and will support him. I just don't think he's the most likelbe chap in the world and that could hinder the situation especially if the start is bad.
"just don't think he's the most likelbe chap" - that's the worry with GON. Tactically, whiteboard, knowledge, maybe coaching too, he'll be fine. The concern is more around emotional intelligence and man management. Will his players want to fight for him? And if others have that concern too, then it feeds into our ability to attract talent. Hopefully he's learned from his experience at Wolves. Worth bearing in mind that under KM we recently went 75+ games without a single come-from-behind win, which placed our heart/fight in question.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:59 - Jun 20 with 1593 views
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:37 - Jun 20 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O
Maybe that's taken that from a figure someone else mentioned. Certainly seems high though. For the record I think he's a good tactician and will support him. I just don't think he's the most likelbe chap in the world and that could hinder the situation especially if the start is bad.
It's high on certain platforms, such as X/Tw4tter, known cesspits of disinformation and over-reaction. If you look around here, any opposition to the appointment is generally based upon going from one of the most coveted managers in UK football to......Gary O'Neil.
Its got very little to do with how good a coach he is, and more to do with him not being a big enough name for some of our support.
They'll all fall in line if we get a semi decent start to the season.
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:21 - Jun 20 by CaptainAhab
90% of the fans are against this appointment? Where did you get that from? Not super excited about it myself, but he must have something about him and his track record is nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. I remember thinking he'd been very hard done by by Bournemouth at the time.
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 10:35 - Jun 20 by BloomBlue
90%??
Just because a few fans are posting on pedogram, cocksuck, facistbook or whatever Instagram, tiktok, facebook are called these days doesn't equal 90%.
Plus if the owners listen to fans Sir Bob would have gone after one season If one club should look at the evidence of the importance of ignoring fans, its ITFC, without ignoring them re Sir Bob then we wouldn't have half the successful history we have.
he probably means this poll, which was running at 90% before the twtd story came out
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 12:18 - Jun 20 by MaySixth
The polls on this forum Minimum sample size 100
Wrong. You're referring a poll that asked who people on the forum would prefer - O'Neil or Solskjær. Putting to one side that it is a small sample of 'all fans', it also asks a different question. It does not say those people were against O'Neil, just that they would prefer Solskjær,
I said I'd prefer Solskjær, but am equally ok with O'Neil. He has a good coach's head on his shoulders, and I think he has the potential to put together a competitive showing next season.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 12:29 - Jun 20 with 1342 views
A very calm, honest assessment for me. Not easy to do off the back of a poor result. Thought his criticism of what they did wrong in the game was spot on and he's right, they were better than us, we were easily one of the weakest teams in the division and they had a lot more quality than we did. Shouldn't be losing to weaker teams and it was a couple of moments where his players didn't do their jobs which cost them. That's not throwing his players under the bus, it's just telling it like it is.
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 12:29 - Jun 20 by SouperJim
A very calm, honest assessment for me. Not easy to do off the back of a poor result. Thought his criticism of what they did wrong in the game was spot on and he's right, they were better than us, we were easily one of the weakest teams in the division and they had a lot more quality than we did. Shouldn't be losing to weaker teams and it was a couple of moments where his players didn't do their jobs which cost them. That's not throwing his players under the bus, it's just telling it like it is.
Same. Pretty reasoned for a guy who probably knew his goose was cooked and he’s likely out the door.
McKenna was a one-off with his calm and measured responses, one of the things I’ll miss most, but the over analysing before the new guys even started….is not McKenna-esque.
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 12:29 - Jun 20 by SouperJim
A very calm, honest assessment for me. Not easy to do off the back of a poor result. Thought his criticism of what they did wrong in the game was spot on and he's right, they were better than us, we were easily one of the weakest teams in the division and they had a lot more quality than we did. Shouldn't be losing to weaker teams and it was a couple of moments where his players didn't do their jobs which cost them. That's not throwing his players under the bus, it's just telling it like it is.
I 100% agree. I've just rewatched that interview for the first time since the game.
It is a very reasonable assessment. He's not throwing his players under the bus - he's pointing out moments of frailty and of losing concentration. He doesn't in any way look down on us - FFS, some of our own 'fans' on this forum have said far more damning things about us during our PL season than O'Neil did in that interview.
Some people need a bit more objectivity imo.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 17:15 - Jun 20 with 818 views
His players had just publicly sh*t the bed and made complete fools of themselves, picking up some suspensions in the process, during a really important relegation battle.
I'd say he's pretty restrained here, suggesting that they should try to keep focus a little more and that he didn't see what happened.
I'd probably have more respect for him if he said 'yeah, that was a disgrace and he's let himself down there, terrible behaviour'
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 18:00 - Jun 20 with 694 views
Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 12:29 - Jun 20 by SouperJim
A very calm, honest assessment for me. Not easy to do off the back of a poor result. Thought his criticism of what they did wrong in the game was spot on and he's right, they were better than us, we were easily one of the weakest teams in the division and they had a lot more quality than we did. Shouldn't be losing to weaker teams and it was a couple of moments where his players didn't do their jobs which cost them. That's not throwing his players under the bus, it's just telling it like it is.
Agreed. He didn't duck the interviewer's questions and he certainly wasn't disrespectful to us. I'm underwhelmed by his imminent appointment, but there's no need to look for issues where and when they're not there.
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Here is GON interview after his last game managing in UK. on 18:27 - Jun 20 with 634 views
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