| Starmer set to resign on Monday 21:25 - Jun 20 with 17341 views | SitfcB |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 08:52 - Jun 21 with 1183 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 08:45 - Jun 21 by redrickstuhaart |
That's clearly not the case.
That's going to be the next silly narrative is it? |
It's absolutely the case.
Josh Simons stepped aside for him FFS! Alarm bells going straight away.
It's the Labour right. They are just repeating the same trick they did with Starmer - presenting Burnham as someone new.
He's not the answer and everyone knows it but it's all they've got.
Vibes aren't enough. Policies, policies, policies!
Burnham is a slightly more charismatic Starmer. He also lost two previous leadership elections for a reason.
If you dig into Manchesterism, there isn't anything there.
Look at who he has appointed as economic advisors.
This is the last (again) roll of the dice of the old system. Burnham winning in Makerfield and being crowned is the best thing that could have happened for Reform unfortunately. |  | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 08:54 - Jun 21 with 1171 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 08:52 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
It's absolutely the case.
Josh Simons stepped aside for him FFS! Alarm bells going straight away.
It's the Labour right. They are just repeating the same trick they did with Starmer - presenting Burnham as someone new.
He's not the answer and everyone knows it but it's all they've got.
Vibes aren't enough. Policies, policies, policies!
Burnham is a slightly more charismatic Starmer. He also lost two previous leadership elections for a reason.
If you dig into Manchesterism, there isn't anything there.
Look at who he has appointed as economic advisors.
This is the last (again) roll of the dice of the old system. Burnham winning in Makerfield and being crowned is the best thing that could have happened for Reform unfortunately. |
Burnham is clearly different. A different character, arguably more charismatic and significantly further to the left on a number of issues.
He wants PR. He is already talking about nationalisations.
Why would you be undermining him already (and thereby helping Farage)? |  |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:00 - Jun 21 with 1128 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 08:54 - Jun 21 by redrickstuhaart |
Burnham is clearly different. A different character, arguably more charismatic and significantly further to the left on a number of issues.
He wants PR. He is already talking about nationalisations.
Why would you be undermining him already (and thereby helping Farage)? |
Being slightly more charismatic and liking chips and gravy etc isn't really enough when faced with the task in hand.
You're going to be very disappointed if you think he's 'signifiantly' to the left.
He's talking about public control now than nationalisation.
He has to make very big decisions to be a success and instead we'll get more triangulation.
It's also pretty poor that there won't be a proper leadership contest or debate and that this sets the precedent that an MP can resign to replace the country's PM!
Everything is style over substance. We need a debate and instead we're going to get 'he's got the common touch and seems like a nice guy'. | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:10 - Jun 21 with 1089 views | Mullet |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:00 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Being slightly more charismatic and liking chips and gravy etc isn't really enough when faced with the task in hand.
You're going to be very disappointed if you think he's 'signifiantly' to the left.
He's talking about public control now than nationalisation.
He has to make very big decisions to be a success and instead we'll get more triangulation.
It's also pretty poor that there won't be a proper leadership contest or debate and that this sets the precedent that an MP can resign to replace the country's PM!
Everything is style over substance. We need a debate and instead we're going to get 'he's got the common touch and seems like a nice guy'. |
I’ve met him in three very different scenarios and you’re talking absolute b0llocks again. |  |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:13 - Jun 21 with 1082 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:10 - Jun 21 by Mullet |
I’ve met him in three very different scenarios and you’re talking absolute b0llocks again. |
Nope I'm not.
Meeting him and thinking he's a nice bloke doesn't mean he's qualified to lead the country in a crisis.
He's a career politician. There's a reason why he lost two leadership elections.
Vibes aren't enough. | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:21 - Jun 21 with 1042 views | Mullet |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:13 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Nope I'm not.
Meeting him and thinking he's a nice bloke doesn't mean he's qualified to lead the country in a crisis.
He's a career politician. There's a reason why he lost two leadership elections.
Vibes aren't enough. |
Who said I thought he “was a nice bloke”? Parroting your corbynite lines from social media makes you no different to the Reform lot on here.
As someone who has seen his work as mayor, met him more than once and worked with his office I’ve got a pretty good measure of his manner and faults. You’re just clipping together insta posts from the Canary et al | |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:29 - Jun 21 with 1024 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:21 - Jun 21 by Mullet |
Who said I thought he “was a nice bloke”? Parroting your corbynite lines from social media makes you no different to the Reform lot on here.
As someone who has seen his work as mayor, met him more than once and worked with his office I’ve got a pretty good measure of his manner and faults. You’re just clipping together insta posts from the Canary et al |
Corbyn derangement syndrome. He's not been leader for 6 years.
Forgive me for being cynical, but 'forensic' competency and 'grown up' politics was what we were promised with Starmer, was it not? If you're a fan of this New Labour cosplaying then presumably you subscribed to that view at the time?
So is your judgement on Burnham similarly sound?
Good piece worth reading here:
https://unherd.com/2026/06/and | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:33 - Jun 21 with 1017 views | DanTheMan |
And then people will get bored of Burnham when things are not immediately fixed and we'll get rid of him too. |  |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:37 - Jun 21 with 1004 views | WD19 |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:33 - Jun 21 by DanTheMan |
And then people will get bored of Burnham when things are not immediately fixed and we'll get rid of him too. |
Hot off the press “he will respect the manifesto” and “stick to the fiscal rules”.
Just with gravy. |  | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:37 - Jun 21 with 988 views | Mullet |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:29 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Corbyn derangement syndrome. He's not been leader for 6 years.
Forgive me for being cynical, but 'forensic' competency and 'grown up' politics was what we were promised with Starmer, was it not? If you're a fan of this New Labour cosplaying then presumably you subscribed to that view at the time?
So is your judgement on Burnham similarly sound?
Good piece worth reading here:
https://unherd.com/2026/06/and |
Again, you don’t read or comprehend too well. Your viewpoint is entirely second hand and cobbled together from corbynite media. The left wing criticisms of Burnham almost all come from those who can’t get over the fact JC failed.
You can deny that all you like, but you’re absolutely clueless here and your arrogance only illustrates the point.
One of the things which means he might be a great PM is his ability to separate his own beliefs and his “live and let live” approach to things he doesn’t agree with. You’d know that, if you knew the man and his work as well he claims. | |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:40 - Jun 21 with 983 views | DJR |
If Burnham becomes PM, he will be the second Everton-supporting PM in the West after Mark Carney. [Post edited 21 Jun 9:41]
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:45 - Jun 21 with 968 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:37 - Jun 21 by Mullet |
Again, you don’t read or comprehend too well. Your viewpoint is entirely second hand and cobbled together from corbynite media. The left wing criticisms of Burnham almost all come from those who can’t get over the fact JC failed.
You can deny that all you like, but you’re absolutely clueless here and your arrogance only illustrates the point.
One of the things which means he might be a great PM is his ability to separate his own beliefs and his “live and let live” approach to things he doesn’t agree with. You’d know that, if you knew the man and his work as well he claims. |
You're obsessed with Corbyn!
He's not been leader for 6 years. He's not in the party.
Bizarre.
So were my criticisms of Starmer totally unfounded? Clueless?
Burnham is a career politician who has significant weaknesses. This isn't a mayoralty. It's PM during a period of crisis. | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:48 - Jun 21 with 958 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:00 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Being slightly more charismatic and liking chips and gravy etc isn't really enough when faced with the task in hand.
You're going to be very disappointed if you think he's 'signifiantly' to the left.
He's talking about public control now than nationalisation.
He has to make very big decisions to be a success and instead we'll get more triangulation.
It's also pretty poor that there won't be a proper leadership contest or debate and that this sets the precedent that an MP can resign to replace the country's PM!
Everything is style over substance. We need a debate and instead we're going to get 'he's got the common touch and seems like a nice guy'. |
They are clearly different. And the common touch is what is actually needed, because in this age of social media and misinformation, Starmer's actual actions seem to have no bearing on what people think about him. Regrettably.
I am no fan of Burnham. Not my style at all. But then I have never voted labour in my life. | |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:51 - Jun 21 with 949 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:48 - Jun 21 by redrickstuhaart |
They are clearly different. And the common touch is what is actually needed, because in this age of social media and misinformation, Starmer's actual actions seem to have no bearing on what people think about him. Regrettably.
I am no fan of Burnham. Not my style at all. But then I have never voted labour in my life. |
Incredible that there is still a refusal to acknowledge the truth of the Starmer (McSweeney) project.
It sounds very much there as if you think Starmer has done a sound job but is a victim of social media hysteria... You're entitled to that view of course but from my perspective it is mental.
Burnham is no different. He's from the same sect of the party! | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:54 - Jun 21 with 933 views | NthQldITFC |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 07:29 - Jun 21 by GlasgowBlue |
You’re about to be seriously disappointed. |
Not if I don't want Ref*rm destroying the United Kingdom. Which I don't. |  |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:56 - Jun 21 with 930 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:51 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Incredible that there is still a refusal to acknowledge the truth of the Starmer (McSweeney) project.
It sounds very much there as if you think Starmer has done a sound job but is a victim of social media hysteria... You're entitled to that view of course but from my perspective it is mental.
Burnham is no different. He's from the same sect of the party! |
I have a friend with a simialr stance to yours- he posts facebook memes against Starmer all the time, but from a hard left perspective. It contributes to undermining the government and its reputation. Which helps farage. There is no real prospect currently of getting something more left than labour.
Why do you think Starmer is the least popular PM for decades? Best 3 reasons? (NB most people are not against him for not being left enough...) [Post edited 21 Jun 9:57]
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:02 - Jun 21 with 903 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 09:56 - Jun 21 by redrickstuhaart |
I have a friend with a simialr stance to yours- he posts facebook memes against Starmer all the time, but from a hard left perspective. It contributes to undermining the government and its reputation. Which helps farage. There is no real prospect currently of getting something more left than labour.
Why do you think Starmer is the least popular PM for decades? Best 3 reasons? (NB most people are not against him for not being left enough...) [Post edited 21 Jun 9:57]
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'There is no prospect of getting something more left than Labour'
Come on. Do you think this government has been even centrist?!!! It's right wing!
The public aren't stupid. They know that Starmer was a duplicitous figure from the start and they didn't much want what he was selling . Being told that should didn't go down well.
Starmer is the driver sat at the front of the DLR remember? He thinks he's driving but he's not.
No principles, ideology or plan. Just vibes. | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:05 - Jun 21 with 896 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:02 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
'There is no prospect of getting something more left than Labour'
Come on. Do you think this government has been even centrist?!!! It's right wing!
The public aren't stupid. They know that Starmer was a duplicitous figure from the start and they didn't much want what he was selling . Being told that should didn't go down well.
Starmer is the driver sat at the front of the DLR remember? He thinks he's driving but he's not.
No principles, ideology or plan. Just vibes. |
You dont address what I said at all.
You come from this "Starmer didnt follow through on his promises to the left" viewpoint, which is not one the vast majority of the electorate have even considered. | |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:08 - Jun 21 with 891 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:05 - Jun 21 by redrickstuhaart |
You dont address what I said at all.
You come from this "Starmer didnt follow through on his promises to the left" viewpoint, which is not one the vast majority of the electorate have even considered. |
He's a dud. You know it, I know it, everyone bar a small group of professional managerial types who think watching the News Agents keeps them well informed, know it. (And even they maybe know it now...)
I don't understand why you are desperately trying to defend him. Just admit you got it wrong!
He's a leader without any principles or beliefs.
I despise what Thatcher did but at least she believed in it! | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:12 - Jun 21 with 876 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:08 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
He's a dud. You know it, I know it, everyone bar a small group of professional managerial types who think watching the News Agents keeps them well informed, know it. (And even they maybe know it now...)
I don't understand why you are desperately trying to defend him. Just admit you got it wrong!
He's a leader without any principles or beliefs.
I despise what Thatcher did but at least she believed in it! |
Why do the bulk of people who voted for him now dislike him?
Best 3 reasons!
(and not the hard left - he's purged the corbynites perspective) | |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:15 - Jun 21 with 857 views | Benters |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 08:52 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
It's absolutely the case.
Josh Simons stepped aside for him FFS! Alarm bells going straight away.
It's the Labour right. They are just repeating the same trick they did with Starmer - presenting Burnham as someone new.
He's not the answer and everyone knows it but it's all they've got.
Vibes aren't enough. Policies, policies, policies!
Burnham is a slightly more charismatic Starmer. He also lost two previous leadership elections for a reason.
If you dig into Manchesterism, there isn't anything there.
Look at who he has appointed as economic advisors.
This is the last (again) roll of the dice of the old system. Burnham winning in Makerfield and being crowned is the best thing that could have happened for Reform unfortunately. |
Lovely stuff 🇬🇧👍 |  |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:21 - Jun 21 with 836 views | lowhouseblue |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 08:52 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
It's absolutely the case.
Josh Simons stepped aside for him FFS! Alarm bells going straight away.
It's the Labour right. They are just repeating the same trick they did with Starmer - presenting Burnham as someone new.
He's not the answer and everyone knows it but it's all they've got.
Vibes aren't enough. Policies, policies, policies!
Burnham is a slightly more charismatic Starmer. He also lost two previous leadership elections for a reason.
If you dig into Manchesterism, there isn't anything there.
Look at who he has appointed as economic advisors.
This is the last (again) roll of the dice of the old system. Burnham winning in Makerfield and being crowned is the best thing that could have happened for Reform unfortunately. |
you've got your party - they reflect where you are politically. labour doesn't. so, get out there, knock on doors, and dream of power. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:23 - Jun 21 with 832 views | jasondozzell |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:21 - Jun 21 by lowhouseblue |
you've got your party - they reflect where you are politically. labour doesn't. so, get out there, knock on doors, and dream of power. |
Rattled! | | | |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:24 - Jun 21 with 825 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:23 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Rattled! |
You have Benters agreeing with you.... | |
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| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:24 - Jun 21 with 814 views | lowhouseblue |
| Starmer set to resign on Monday on 10:23 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Rattled! |
nah, you've missed your chance - entryism failed. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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