| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? 16:19 - Jun 30 with 3543 views | Vic |
In the light of MA's comments last week about being a long way down the line, and with a manager now in to give his stamp of approval, I'm surprised that we've had nothing yet tbh.
I'm still hoping for something in the next couple of days - esp if the speculation of seasoned forum watchers is correct about unpinned posts! |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 16:23 - Jun 30 with 3308 views | bartyg |
1st July is the start of the new accounting year, so there may be a couple being held off until then. |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 16:24 - Jun 30 with 3284 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
Heart - 2 x Brazilian wonderkids
Head - Tom Fellows
It's the hope that kills you ha |  | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 19:48 - Jun 30 with 2796 views | yesjohn99 |
Coincide with the kit launch Friday I reckon.
Nick Pope in keepers strip, then two more to model the new home and away. |  | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 21:16 - Jun 30 with 2541 views | Gary_Knows |
Another week or two one would imagine. Whilst I appreciate the club may have put a lot of work into targets, and Ashton suggests it’s now down to the managers say so, I just can’t see it being that ‘easy’.
Suspect O’Neil will want time to a) do his due diligence on the squad himself, whether that’s work from behind a screen or seeing them in training for the first time and b) he will have an idea of the type of player which might not align with what the club have got in mind.
Given that the start of the season is still 8 weeks or so away, it gives us a little breathing room in that sense, so suspect they’ll take their time and things will ramp up in a week or 2. |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 22:44 - Jun 30 with 2337 views | Vic |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 21:16 - Jun 30 by Gary_Knows |
Another week or two one would imagine. Whilst I appreciate the club may have put a lot of work into targets, and Ashton suggests it’s now down to the managers say so, I just can’t see it being that ‘easy’.
Suspect O’Neil will want time to a) do his due diligence on the squad himself, whether that’s work from behind a screen or seeing them in training for the first time and b) he will have an idea of the type of player which might not align with what the club have got in mind.
Given that the start of the season is still 8 weeks or so away, it gives us a little breathing room in that sense, so suspect they’ll take their time and things will ramp up in a week or 2. |
That all makes good sense! | |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 00:01 - Jul 1 with 2162 views | Kropotkin123 |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 21:16 - Jun 30 by Gary_Knows |
Another week or two one would imagine. Whilst I appreciate the club may have put a lot of work into targets, and Ashton suggests it’s now down to the managers say so, I just can’t see it being that ‘easy’.
Suspect O’Neil will want time to a) do his due diligence on the squad himself, whether that’s work from behind a screen or seeing them in training for the first time and b) he will have an idea of the type of player which might not align with what the club have got in mind.
Given that the start of the season is still 8 weeks or so away, it gives us a little breathing room in that sense, so suspect they’ll take their time and things will ramp up in a week or 2. |
I don't think (a) is a big factor. I think we would be looking for new people in every position. |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 08:10 - Jul 1 with 1915 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 21:16 - Jun 30 by Gary_Knows |
Another week or two one would imagine. Whilst I appreciate the club may have put a lot of work into targets, and Ashton suggests it’s now down to the managers say so, I just can’t see it being that ‘easy’.
Suspect O’Neil will want time to a) do his due diligence on the squad himself, whether that’s work from behind a screen or seeing them in training for the first time and b) he will have an idea of the type of player which might not align with what the club have got in mind.
Given that the start of the season is still 8 weeks or so away, it gives us a little breathing room in that sense, so suspect they’ll take their time and things will ramp up in a week or 2. |
Plus the fact that we’ll be competing with plenty of other clubs and players won’t be rushing decisions. We need to be punching above our weight too, which makes things tougher again.
I can see people being disappointed with how long it takes the final squad to take shape. It’ll not be until we’re into the games probably. |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 09:25 - Jul 1 with 1744 views | WeWereZombies |
Ashton said that the club were a long way down the line last week and now ITFC Women have three new signings, what more do you want ? |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 09:29 - Jul 1 with 1727 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 08:10 - Jul 1 by Swansea_Blue |
Plus the fact that we’ll be competing with plenty of other clubs and players won’t be rushing decisions. We need to be punching above our weight too, which makes things tougher again.
I can see people being disappointed with how long it takes the final squad to take shape. It’ll not be until we’re into the games probably. |
That's fine to have a few deals spilling in to the season it just cant be what its been like last couple of summers when we have gone in to the season unprepared. |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 10:04 - Jul 1 with 1609 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 09:29 - Jul 1 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That's fine to have a few deals spilling in to the season it just cant be what its been like last couple of summers when we have gone in to the season unprepared. |
We need to have a team on the pitch that can beat Sunderland. These are the games we have to get 3 points from at home.
If we get battered by Sunderland first game at home due to not having a competitive team there are going to be big problemos. | | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 10:19 - Jul 1 with 1527 views | blueoutlook |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 10:04 - Jul 1 by WolfieAtTheBack |
We need to have a team on the pitch that can beat Sunderland. These are the games we have to get 3 points from at home.
If we get battered by Sunderland first game at home due to not having a competitive team there are going to be big problemos. |
Agree we need to be up and running, not like the previous seasons we need as many points as we can and Sunderland at home would be one you are looking at, no matter how well they did first season back in the Prem. We can’t be still assembling the bulk of our squad come September or we will be cut a drift from the very beginning. |  | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 10:38 - Jul 1 with 1418 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 10:19 - Jul 1 by blueoutlook |
Agree we need to be up and running, not like the previous seasons we need as many points as we can and Sunderland at home would be one you are looking at, no matter how well they did first season back in the Prem. We can’t be still assembling the bulk of our squad come September or we will be cut a drift from the very beginning. |
Looking at the fixtures and it does not get any easier does it!
By the end of October we have Forest (h) and Hull (a) those two games we would need 6 points from as I can't see us getting too many other points after Sunderland until then so the first game is REALLY important to have a team of players that can win and run at this level for 90+ mins.
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 11:09 - Jul 1 with 1322 views | FrimleyBlue |
Suppose if they really were waiting for managers approval, he could have said no to them all and we're back at the drawing board.
But i'd imagine we were just waiting to get yesturday out of the way and now all signings fall under new accounts rather than last years |  |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 11:48 - Jul 1 with 1180 views | Westover |
I see GON said he had been in Ipswich a few times for talks and no one had seen him, so players could have been and had interviews and now that we are in July hopefully signings will get done 🤞 | | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 11:50 - Jul 1 with 1159 views | PhilTWTD |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 16:23 - Jun 30 by bartyg |
1st July is the start of the new accounting year, so there may be a couple being held off until then. |
Am told that makes little difference on an FFP front. |  | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 12:15 - Jul 1 with 1062 views | Hermann_eats_puffin |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 21:16 - Jun 30 by Gary_Knows |
Another week or two one would imagine. Whilst I appreciate the club may have put a lot of work into targets, and Ashton suggests it’s now down to the managers say so, I just can’t see it being that ‘easy’.
Suspect O’Neil will want time to a) do his due diligence on the squad himself, whether that’s work from behind a screen or seeing them in training for the first time and b) he will have an idea of the type of player which might not align with what the club have got in mind.
Given that the start of the season is still 8 weeks or so away, it gives us a little breathing room in that sense, so suspect they’ll take their time and things will ramp up in a week or 2. |
I'm in agreement with you that I expect deals to take a bit longer than hoped for especially if we're targeting high level players.
The frustration of fans at the moment is one of the exact reasons that I wish Ashton wouldn't say things along the lines of we're a long way down the line making progress with transfers because I think it then sets up unrealistic expectations in fans heads.
Now Ashton's version of a long way down the line, and maybe even an agents version of a long way down the line and what that translates as into actual numbers of days may well be very different from a fans interpretation of those words and fans may perceive a long way down the line as meaning imminently in the next 24-48 hours for example.
That's why I wish he'd just either stay quiet on the subject or if he's quizzed on it and really needs to say something why can't he just say something along the lines of we're working as hard as we can on transfers and they'll happen when they'll happen. Then you don't have fans on a daily basis wondering where on earth this imminent signing that Ashton mentioned is. [Post edited 1 Jul 12:17]
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:27 - Jul 1 with 865 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 11:50 - Jul 1 by PhilTWTD |
Am told that makes little difference on an FFP front. |
Does it not? not saying your source isn't more reliable than Ai, but that is quite surprising
30 June is the financial year-end for many football clubs.
If a transfer is completed on 30 June, the buying club may need to include the player's transfer fee (amortized over the contract) and wages in the financial year that has just ended.
If the deal is completed on 1 July, those costs generally fall into the new financial year, which can help the club comply with the Premier League's financial rules and improve the previous year's accounts. | |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:32 - Jul 1 with 826 views | WeWereZombies |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:27 - Jul 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Does it not? not saying your source isn't more reliable than Ai, but that is quite surprising
30 June is the financial year-end for many football clubs.
If a transfer is completed on 30 June, the buying club may need to include the player's transfer fee (amortized over the contract) and wages in the financial year that has just ended.
If the deal is completed on 1 July, those costs generally fall into the new financial year, which can help the club comply with the Premier League's financial rules and improve the previous year's accounts. |
It would depend on the deals that have been done as well as the deals yet to be done, at the moment the Club are ones who know how much headroom they have in each financial year (for both the second tier regulations in the year just finished and for the top division in the year ahead.) If someone on the financial side at the Club (who has the necessary status) has assured Phil that it is of negligible impact then I would go with that rather than artificial intelligence which doesn't have the privileged information. | |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:44 - Jul 1 with 761 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:32 - Jul 1 by WeWereZombies |
It would depend on the deals that have been done as well as the deals yet to be done, at the moment the Club are ones who know how much headroom they have in each financial year (for both the second tier regulations in the year just finished and for the top division in the year ahead.) If someone on the financial side at the Club (who has the necessary status) has assured Phil that it is of negligible impact then I would go with that rather than artificial intelligence which doesn't have the privileged information. |
Ah so he maybe mean it wouldn't effect town because of our own standing, not that across football it makes no difference? | |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:44 - Jul 1 with 758 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 09:29 - Jul 1 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That's fine to have a few deals spilling in to the season it just cant be what its been like last couple of summers when we have gone in to the season unprepared. |
It could well be that though. We’ll see. I’m sure there’ll be a drip feed through the window, but it could be very hard to get certain deals done if there’s stiff competition. Ideally yes, we want everyone in asap. | |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:55 - Jul 1 with 709 views | burnbudgiesburn |
This transfer angst is the same every year isn't it? Some bloke on twitter has started an 8 post long thread about it.
'I'm not getting desperate YET' etc... as a grand total of 6 or 7 premier league deals have been done so far. | | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:59 - Jul 1 with 663 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 13:55 - Jul 1 by burnbudgiesburn |
This transfer angst is the same every year isn't it? Some bloke on twitter has started an 8 post long thread about it.
'I'm not getting desperate YET' etc... as a grand total of 6 or 7 premier league deals have been done so far. |
Can I just confirm, that was not me. | |
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| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 14:19 - Jul 1 with 559 views | dirtyboy |
I think I have bad news? I'm sure others have looked already....
We are under the new ratio rules, so restricted to 85% of turnover a I read it.
Just taking a look at the accounts....
Bearing in mind our expenses last time in the PL were £166m i'm not sure how much headroom we'll actually have for big transfers???
Lets go with £160m turnover this coming season, that pitches us at £136m
Last time in the prem, first team wages were £77m but that included a lot of L1 players who'd have risen through and undoubtedly be on lower salaries than the current crop.
I'd guess that's got to be waaaaaay higher and we'll have a cost of around £120m+ this coming season.
That leaves....erm, the square root of f**k all lol!!!!
£16m?
A £30m player on say £40k a week would cost the club around £10m a year out of that £16m.
I fear we may be shopping in the bargain basement again?
There's a 115% 'permitted overspend' but that'd attract a fine and I think it then affects future seasons. That may be worth using for a squad build?
Additionally, I think we'll have to sell a few assets somewhere.
We just don't turn over enough to be competitive without player sales.
I wonder if Philogene or Clarke would be considered assets they'd be willing to let go, bag say £20m and allow acquisition of 2 x £30m players.
Eurgh....doesn't read well to me?
Obviously i'm guess on wage bills hugely, but can't be lower! |  | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 16:17 - Jul 1 with 408 views | Hermann_eats_puffin |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 14:19 - Jul 1 by dirtyboy |
I think I have bad news? I'm sure others have looked already....
We are under the new ratio rules, so restricted to 85% of turnover a I read it.
Just taking a look at the accounts....
Bearing in mind our expenses last time in the PL were £166m i'm not sure how much headroom we'll actually have for big transfers???
Lets go with £160m turnover this coming season, that pitches us at £136m
Last time in the prem, first team wages were £77m but that included a lot of L1 players who'd have risen through and undoubtedly be on lower salaries than the current crop.
I'd guess that's got to be waaaaaay higher and we'll have a cost of around £120m+ this coming season.
That leaves....erm, the square root of f**k all lol!!!!
£16m?
A £30m player on say £40k a week would cost the club around £10m a year out of that £16m.
I fear we may be shopping in the bargain basement again?
There's a 115% 'permitted overspend' but that'd attract a fine and I think it then affects future seasons. That may be worth using for a squad build?
Additionally, I think we'll have to sell a few assets somewhere.
We just don't turn over enough to be competitive without player sales.
I wonder if Philogene or Clarke would be considered assets they'd be willing to let go, bag say £20m and allow acquisition of 2 x £30m players.
Eurgh....doesn't read well to me?
Obviously i'm guess on wage bills hugely, but can't be lower! |
That's really interesting and with the SCR rules it's imperative for clubs who aren't the really big ones in the PL, who have a global reach and much higher turnover, to generate as much income as possible. However there's a limit to what you can with an aging stadium such as Portman Road (much as I do love it) with both match day and non-match day revenue. It's a reason why clubs like Everton and Spurs have replaced some much loved stadiums of their own.
That's probably where a fellow promoted club Coventry might even have an advantage over us because I think that they have a big arena/conference facility adjacent to their ground and with them being geographically much more central in the country the non-match day income probably helps at least in the sense of every penny helps.
But in the main clubs like Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth etc. make ends meet and earn cash to revert in new players with a regular churn of buying decent players for say £10m-£30m and selling them for much more.
Even if you look at Sunderland last summer they went into that transfer window selling Jobe Bellingham for around £30m.
We really need to start doing much more of buying and selling well with thus far our only examples being Delap and Hutchinson whereby we must of at least almost roughly (albeit not quite when factoring sell on percentages for Man City and Chelsea) doubled our money on.
But currently I can't see many others in the squad we'd get to near doubling our money on if looking at the players we bought in the summer of 2024 and 2025 albeit if we sold any of Azor, Clarke, Philogene, O'Shea tomorrow (not that I want to) I think we'd make a profit at least but you're not really talking double your money territory.
In the season ahead we just need to somehow by hook or by crook survive and then look to build in the future but part of that will not getting overly attached or emotional about players who will look to come to Town further their career in the PL and move on and as long as that happens with Town making a big profit and as long as we massively improve our scouting to the point whereby if we sell we have the next player lines up to replace them it will not be an issue. | | | |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 16:32 - Jul 1 with 344 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So when do we expect our new signings to start to roll into town? on 14:19 - Jul 1 by dirtyboy |
I think I have bad news? I'm sure others have looked already....
We are under the new ratio rules, so restricted to 85% of turnover a I read it.
Just taking a look at the accounts....
Bearing in mind our expenses last time in the PL were £166m i'm not sure how much headroom we'll actually have for big transfers???
Lets go with £160m turnover this coming season, that pitches us at £136m
Last time in the prem, first team wages were £77m but that included a lot of L1 players who'd have risen through and undoubtedly be on lower salaries than the current crop.
I'd guess that's got to be waaaaaay higher and we'll have a cost of around £120m+ this coming season.
That leaves....erm, the square root of f**k all lol!!!!
£16m?
A £30m player on say £40k a week would cost the club around £10m a year out of that £16m.
I fear we may be shopping in the bargain basement again?
There's a 115% 'permitted overspend' but that'd attract a fine and I think it then affects future seasons. That may be worth using for a squad build?
Additionally, I think we'll have to sell a few assets somewhere.
We just don't turn over enough to be competitive without player sales.
I wonder if Philogene or Clarke would be considered assets they'd be willing to let go, bag say £20m and allow acquisition of 2 x £30m players.
Eurgh....doesn't read well to me?
Obviously i'm guess on wage bills hugely, but can't be lower! |
I''d guess our turnover will be higher this season
Halo for one will no doubt be putting in a hell of a lot for sponsorship
we've increased hospitality and other commercial activities
about to increase the financial incomings on matchdays with the new fanzone bars
player sales, think it's fair to say we have more we could sell for decent fee's this time around compared to last too
Having a nice new shiny training centre, may increase our ability to rent out the facility to international sides
Most likely we will sell the name of the training centre, for example Man Utd get over £100 mill by carrington, i'd imagine we will do similar, maybe even with Halo again here too. | |
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