| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... 13:41 - Jul 30 with 2724 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I wonder if he's been one of those who those who has suprised O'Neill?
Looked much sharper than Furlong/ Johnson last night which is telling given they've all had the same break.
I know pre-season games mean nothing and we cant take much from it but he might suit the switch to a 5 more than we expected.
Ben Jacobs reported a few weeks back that a number of clubs were down the line with him and now that's gone pretty quiet? |  | | |  |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:46 - Jul 30 with 2331 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I didn’t see the game and I will try and say this as respectfully as possible but after 5 windows spending PL money if Harry Clarke is the answer, I think multiple people need to lose their jobs! [Post edited 30 Jul 13:46]
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:53 - Jul 30 with 2235 views | Vaughan8 |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:46 - Jul 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I didn’t see the game and I will try and say this as respectfully as possible but after 5 windows spending PL money if Harry Clarke is the answer, I think multiple people need to lose their jobs! [Post edited 30 Jul 13:46]
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I was going to say, unless he's massively improved, he's nowhere near a premier League player.
If he's the answer at right back, we're screwed. I suspect he would be 3rd choice at best. He's likely to leave. | | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:54 - Jul 30 with 2202 views | Guthrum |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:46 - Jul 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I didn’t see the game and I will try and say this as respectfully as possible but after 5 windows spending PL money if Harry Clarke is the answer, I think multiple people need to lose their jobs! [Post edited 30 Jul 13:46]
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I think, unfortunately, he's just not quick enough to cover the ground required to play RB. |  |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:55 - Jul 30 with 2199 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:46 - Jul 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I didn’t see the game and I will try and say this as respectfully as possible but after 5 windows spending PL money if Harry Clarke is the answer, I think multiple people need to lose their jobs! [Post edited 30 Jul 13:46]
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I don't think he is the answer but it's pretty clear we aren't going to get rid of Furlong/ Johnson and Clarke so there is an interesting battle there.
I just thought it was an interesting observation that he played with the first team last night. | | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:04 - Jul 30 with 2075 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:55 - Jul 30 by Bellevue_Blue |
I don't think he is the answer but it's pretty clear we aren't going to get rid of Furlong/ Johnson and Clarke so there is an interesting battle there.
I just thought it was an interesting observation that he played with the first team last night. |
Many who are about to be sold will have pre season minutes, proves fitness to potential suitors as well. | |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:04 - Jul 30 with 2085 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:54 - Jul 30 by Guthrum |
I think, unfortunately, he's just not quick enough to cover the ground required to play RB. |
Neither quick enough physically or mentally. |  |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 with 2037 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:04 - Jul 30 by Cafe_Newman |
Neither quick enough physically or mentally. |
I expect him to be sold permanently to a mid table champ club for about what we paid. | |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 with 2050 views | dirtyboy |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:04 - Jul 30 by Cafe_Newman |
Neither quick enough physically or mentally. |
He's loads quicker than Furlong and nobody is questioning his involvement? |  | | |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:13 - Jul 30 with 1985 views | Libero |
There’s a player on there, that’s for sure- I think he’d do well from playing a more disciplined role and maybe not being quite so attacking, but I’d love to see him step up. |  | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:13 - Jul 30 with 1985 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 by dirtyboy |
He's loads quicker than Furlong and nobody is questioning his involvement? |
I am. Not vociferously, but we need a new starting rb/rwb if we want to be serious. |  |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:19 - Jul 30 with 1941 views | jas0999 |
We need much much better than Harry Clarke unfortunately otherwise we are going straight back down. | | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:27 - Jul 30 with 1848 views | homer_123 |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:13 - Jul 30 by Libero |
There’s a player on there, that’s for sure- I think he’d do well from playing a more disciplined role and maybe not being quite so attacking, but I’d love to see him step up. |
Converted striker isn't he. |  |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:28 - Jul 30 with 1834 views | Libero |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:27 - Jul 30 by homer_123 |
Converted striker isn't he. |
I'm not sure about that? I believe he played right wing for a lot of his time in youth teams? Either way, that was a long time ago now. | | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:36 - Jul 30 with 1764 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 by dirtyboy |
He's loads quicker than Furlong and nobody is questioning his involvement? |
Lots of people are. |  |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:38 - Jul 30 with 1742 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:19 - Jul 30 by jas0999 |
We need much much better than Harry Clarke unfortunately otherwise we are going straight back down. |
Honestly, posts on TWTD so quickly shift from the OP.
Question asked in the OP: I wonder if he's been one of those who those who has suprised O'Neill?
Answer: We need much much better than Harry Clarke
I'm not suggesting we don't! I asked given he started with the first team, could we assume he has had a positive impression on GON. | | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:40 - Jul 30 with 1715 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:38 - Jul 30 by Bellevue_Blue |
Honestly, posts on TWTD so quickly shift from the OP.
Question asked in the OP: I wonder if he's been one of those who those who has suprised O'Neill?
Answer: We need much much better than Harry Clarke
I'm not suggesting we don't! I asked given he started with the first team, could we assume he has had a positive impression on GON. |
No just getting some minutes in the legs before his medical. | |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:45 - Jul 30 with 1674 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 by dirtyboy |
He's loads quicker than Furlong and nobody is questioning his involvement? |
I am but Furlong is generally smart enough not to find himself too far out of position to expose his lack of pace or at least to take his man out before he's very obviously exposed.
As much as I liked Furlong last year he's certainly not the kind of player you want in that position if you want to develop a player like Walle Egeli.
But Walle Egeli is a completely different discussion and I really think he needs a lot attention if we're going to get anything from our investment in him. | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 14:46 - Jul 30 with 1651 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 by dirtyboy |
He's loads quicker than Furlong and nobody is questioning his involvement? |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 14:46 - Jul 30 with 1650 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 by dirtyboy |
He's loads quicker than Furlong and nobody is questioning his involvement? |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:47 - Jul 30 with 1647 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:07 - Jul 30 by dirtyboy |
He's loads quicker than Furlong and nobody is questioning his involvement? |
Apologies - wifi connection problems [Post edited 30 Jul 14:49]
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:52 - Jul 30 with 1611 views | SomethingBlue |
Trying to hurry along a sale I think. | |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 15:00 - Jul 30 with 1523 views | bsw72 |
Solid Championship player with the benefit of being able to play a few positions, question mark over injury / fitness.
He has now been a 1st team player at a few clubs and under several managers but not really set the world on fire. Would like him to have made it but there is obviously something he falls short with . . . |  | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 15:23 - Jul 30 with 1413 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:54 - Jul 30 by Guthrum |
I think, unfortunately, he's just not quick enough to cover the ground required to play RB. |
Which is a big problem when one of your biggest weaknesses is positioning |  | | |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 15:52 - Jul 30 with 1241 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 13:46 - Jul 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I didn’t see the game and I will try and say this as respectfully as possible but after 5 windows spending PL money if Harry Clarke is the answer, I think multiple people need to lose their jobs! [Post edited 30 Jul 13:46]
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The thing is, last night both Harry Clarke, Humphreys and Burns were three of our better players. Burns still looks better than most of the players we have spent a small fortune replacing him with, and he's 30 something and had some nasty injuries... so who's getting the sack? |  |
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| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 16:02 - Jul 30 with 1190 views | dirtyboy |
| Harry Clarke in the first XI last night ... on 14:45 - Jul 30 by Cafe_Newman |
I am but Furlong is generally smart enough not to find himself too far out of position to expose his lack of pace or at least to take his man out before he's very obviously exposed.
As much as I liked Furlong last year he's certainly not the kind of player you want in that position if you want to develop a player like Walle Egeli.
But Walle Egeli is a completely different discussion and I really think he needs a lot attention if we're going to get anything from our investment in him. |
If GON is going to play a different type of football, or wants his players to be good at a particular thing, then, sometimes, players can just fit.
The lad has good pedigree, he was at Arsenal, had an insane op on his achilles, could come good still.
Amazes me how people just write off players because they've not 'made it' already.
I'm not saying he or Furlong are Premier League starters, mostly because you'd expect them to get picked up already, but, things change, people change, players mature etc.
Dan Burn dropped down leagues then came back to the very top.
Jarrod Bowen didn't make an immediate impact, Ryan Yates..of course, VArdy being another, all outliers, appreciated.
Some players look terrible under one manager then turn into completely different players.
Being realistic, whilst he's probably quicker than Furlong and Johnson, he's not as big/strong, so is at a disadvantage there, so I don't think he'll be here come September, but, you just don't know.
At 25 time is ticking though. | | | |
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