| Ed Sheeran 22:48 - Sep 14 with 10149 views | BlueNomad |
Shame he hasn’t made a stand in support of his friend Macklemore.
Macklemore dropped from Ed Sheeran tour after 'Free Palestine' speech https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art [Post edited 14 Sep 22:49]
|  | | |  |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:06 - Sep 15 with 823 views | Benters |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:41 - Sep 15 by Leaky |
He seems to hate everyone |
Yep. |  |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:07 - Sep 15 with 824 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Ed Sheeran on 10:46 - Sep 15 by Billywitch |
But seriously, I'm not offended that you care about it, why be offended if others don't?
FWIW, on a daily basis i have to think about my family, kids, their education, their diets, their after schooling activities, sort my household budget, keep the house and garden in good condition, fix things that break, build new things to make it look nice.
I have zero time to put what is happening miles away in the forefront of my mind.
People aren't wrong for not caring, incredibly arrogant to think we should all care because you do. |
You want to be more careful if you have to fix things that break on a daily basis! |  |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:08 - Sep 15 with 838 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:01 - Sep 15 by Billywitch |
I was referring to the left when I say "you lot". Politically I'm homeless, but have always found the left to be aggressive/judgmental. But that's only my opinion, so means very little.
Anyway, full respect to the other situations you mention. Can't be easy, so hats off to for that. |
I think you’d do well reading the content offered, instead of forming a pre-requisite judgement based off of your experiences with other people that for some reason you categorise into all being one and the same.
It’s not easy, but that’s life- I’ve also my own disabilities and career to juggle- but the key to *all* of it is empathy. I don’t know you and I can only go on what you’ve offered of yourself here, but you come across as severely lacking in empathy.
You have jobs to do, so you can’t care about others? Personally gave me a very uncomfortable feeling. We all have jobs to do, but we all have a duty to one another to.
I’m sure you’re a decent fella in reality, but investigate that thought pattern, consider that before the genocide there were hundreds of thousands of men in Palestine, doing just as you do, looking after their families, homes, working - all now slaughtered without just cause. |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:09 - Sep 15 with 826 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:03 - Sep 15 by balcombeblue |
People are allowed to be overwhelmed by their own lives and step back from global tragedies without being morally judged for it. |
Not arsed about bombing a kindergarten, you’ve got dishes to do - gotcha. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:09 - Sep 15 with 826 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
I feel for Ed on this one. He's a global superstar who works very hard to remain neutral avoid bringing politics into his shows because he knows how damaging it can be to his brand, only for his mate to just absolutely drop him in it here.
Macklemore was probably warned that this was not something he could do on this tour and chose to ignore him. Ed is just a musician, not a politician, he doesn't need to be getting involved with any form of current affairs, so if he chooses not to, his support acts should respect that. |  |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:30 - Sep 15 with 743 views | Billywitch |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:08 - Sep 15 by Libero |
I think you’d do well reading the content offered, instead of forming a pre-requisite judgement based off of your experiences with other people that for some reason you categorise into all being one and the same.
It’s not easy, but that’s life- I’ve also my own disabilities and career to juggle- but the key to *all* of it is empathy. I don’t know you and I can only go on what you’ve offered of yourself here, but you come across as severely lacking in empathy.
You have jobs to do, so you can’t care about others? Personally gave me a very uncomfortable feeling. We all have jobs to do, but we all have a duty to one another to.
I’m sure you’re a decent fella in reality, but investigate that thought pattern, consider that before the genocide there were hundreds of thousands of men in Palestine, doing just as you do, looking after their families, homes, working - all now slaughtered without just cause. |
"so you can’t care about others"
Let me clarify, I care deeply for all my friends and family. I have just returned from an holiday in a location where I was surrounded by brilliant locals, all of who I care for, and god forbid they were hit with a natural disaster I'd be offering what I could to support them.
So I'm not a full monster. Just don't think about what's happening over there. |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:33 - Sep 15 with 732 views | balcombeblue |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:04 - Sep 15 by bartyg |
Yeah but then they come into threads like this and call those of us who do care "preachy" |
Agreed - that's fair |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:35 - Sep 15 with 716 views | balcombeblue |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:09 - Sep 15 by Libero |
Not arsed about bombing a kindergarten, you’ve got dishes to do - gotcha. |
you know that's not what was said..... | | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Ed Sheeran on 11:37 - Sep 15 with 714 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:30 - Sep 15 by Billywitch |
"so you can’t care about others"
Let me clarify, I care deeply for all my friends and family. I have just returned from an holiday in a location where I was surrounded by brilliant locals, all of who I care for, and god forbid they were hit with a natural disaster I'd be offering what I could to support them.
So I'm not a full monster. Just don't think about what's happening over there. |
Of course you’re not a ‘monster’ mate, that’s an extreme - as I said “ I’m sure you’re a decent fella in reality”
I try think what you’re showing here though is a classic case of “I’m alright Jack” but with an added level of, well, I’ve met these people, so they matter to me.
Personally, I don’t need to have met the families that have lost children, had homes destroyed and lives ruined by Israel’s campaign of hate, to feel empathy with them.
I appreciate we’re all different though and you are just being honest- as I said before, I’d invite you to explore that thought process a bit more and understand that what matters about the world is more than just what’s close enough for you to physically reach out and touch, at any one moment.
Appreciate the sincere exchange, even if we are diametrically apposed on this. [Post edited 15 Sep 13:32]
| | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:46 - Sep 15 with 670 views | balcombeblue |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:37 - Sep 15 by Libero |
Of course you’re not a ‘monster’ mate, that’s an extreme - as I said “ I’m sure you’re a decent fella in reality”
I try think what you’re showing here though is a classic case of “I’m alright Jack” but with an added level of, well, I’ve met these people, so they matter to me.
Personally, I don’t need to have met the families that have lost children, had homes destroyed and lives ruined by Israel’s campaign of hate, to feel empathy with them.
I appreciate we’re all different though and you are just being honest- as I said before, I’d invite you to explore that thought process a bit more and understand that what matters about the world is more than just what’s close enough for you to physically reach out and touch, at any one moment.
Appreciate the sincere exchange, even if we are diametrically apposed on this. [Post edited 15 Sep 13:32]
|
What an excellent post Libero! Profoundly disagree on many subjects with you but always happy to discuss without personal attacks.
Hate is being met with hate to disastrous consequences. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:53 - Sep 15 with 630 views | MattinLondon |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:09 - Sep 15 by ThatMuhrenCross |
I feel for Ed on this one. He's a global superstar who works very hard to remain neutral avoid bringing politics into his shows because he knows how damaging it can be to his brand, only for his mate to just absolutely drop him in it here.
Macklemore was probably warned that this was not something he could do on this tour and chose to ignore him. Ed is just a musician, not a politician, he doesn't need to be getting involved with any form of current affairs, so if he chooses not to, his support acts should respect that. |
I think that’s where I am as well. Ed, or someone in Ed’s team, would have been fully aware of Macklemore‘s position on this issue - and that the chances of him remaining silent were quite low.
If Macklemore decided to ignore requests for him to be quiet whilst performing then I do have sympathy for Ed. |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:00 - Sep 15 with 585 views | DanTheMan |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:46 - Sep 15 by balcombeblue |
What an excellent post Libero! Profoundly disagree on many subjects with you but always happy to discuss without personal attacks.
Hate is being met with hate to disastrous consequences. |
Death begets death begets death. |  |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:07 - Sep 15 with 559 views | balcombeblue |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:00 - Sep 15 by DanTheMan |
Death begets death begets death. |
Another thought experiment....
If some sort of leftist, anti-war and peace loving government took hold in Israel and opened up the border what do people think the Islamist response would be?
History is inclined to suggest it would be violent, genocidal (literally in this case) and involve ethnic cleansing of the Jews. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:20 - Sep 15 with 521 views | positivity |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:07 - Sep 15 by balcombeblue |
Another thought experiment....
If some sort of leftist, anti-war and peace loving government took hold in Israel and opened up the border what do people think the Islamist response would be?
History is inclined to suggest it would be violent, genocidal (literally in this case) and involve ethnic cleansing of the Jews. |
why would a peace loving government open the borders?
it'd be a 2 state solution with security considerations as agreed in oslo.
hamas wouldn't be able to ethnically cleanse the jews in israel and the israeli settlers wouldn't be able to ethnically cleanse the muslims(and christians etc) in palestine (as is the current status quo) | |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:21 - Sep 15 with 518 views | Blueschev |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:07 - Sep 15 by balcombeblue |
Another thought experiment....
If some sort of leftist, anti-war and peace loving government took hold in Israel and opened up the border what do people think the Islamist response would be?
History is inclined to suggest it would be violent, genocidal (literally in this case) and involve ethnic cleansing of the Jews. |
That was the same argument used to justify apartheid in South Africa. Portraying the oppressed as monsters doesn't justify their oppression. |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:25 - Sep 15 with 505 views | balcombeblue |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:20 - Sep 15 by positivity |
why would a peace loving government open the borders?
it'd be a 2 state solution with security considerations as agreed in oslo.
hamas wouldn't be able to ethnically cleanse the jews in israel and the israeli settlers wouldn't be able to ethnically cleanse the muslims(and christians etc) in palestine (as is the current status quo) |
The two state solution has been consistently rejected.
My point was that murderous acts of terrorism would continue as they have done for hundreds of years. History tells Jews that the only people who will take care of them are themselves. A two state solution would not change that. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:26 - Sep 15 with 497 views | Mullet |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:01 - Sep 15 by Billywitch |
I was referring to the left when I say "you lot". Politically I'm homeless, but have always found the left to be aggressive/judgmental. But that's only my opinion, so means very little.
Anyway, full respect to the other situations you mention. Can't be easy, so hats off to for that. |
I’m not being funny but the other day you had “no view” on Stephen Yaxley Lennon and fascism. You’ve no view on Gaza because it’s far away, now you’re tarnishing “the left” on here.
For someone too busy and too localised for politics and political views you don’t half express them a lot, in a very confused way. It’s quite something. |  |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:32 - Sep 15 with 471 views | positivity |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:25 - Sep 15 by balcombeblue |
The two state solution has been consistently rejected.
My point was that murderous acts of terrorism would continue as they have done for hundreds of years. History tells Jews that the only people who will take care of them are themselves. A two state solution would not change that. |
it's never been tried, murderous acts of terrorism are continuing daily right now, so the status quo isn't desirable for anyone.
it can't be more genocidal than the current situation | |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:32 - Sep 15 with 467 views | LeoMuff |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:09 - Sep 15 by ThatMuhrenCross |
I feel for Ed on this one. He's a global superstar who works very hard to remain neutral avoid bringing politics into his shows because he knows how damaging it can be to his brand, only for his mate to just absolutely drop him in it here.
Macklemore was probably warned that this was not something he could do on this tour and chose to ignore him. Ed is just a musician, not a politician, he doesn't need to be getting involved with any form of current affairs, so if he chooses not to, his support acts should respect that. |
I don’t think it should have been any surprise to Ed considering Macklemore’s previous support for Palestine and record releases |  |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:42 - Sep 15 with 417 views | Zx1988 |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:09 - Sep 15 by ThatMuhrenCross |
I feel for Ed on this one. He's a global superstar who works very hard to remain neutral avoid bringing politics into his shows because he knows how damaging it can be to his brand, only for his mate to just absolutely drop him in it here.
Macklemore was probably warned that this was not something he could do on this tour and chose to ignore him. Ed is just a musician, not a politician, he doesn't need to be getting involved with any form of current affairs, so if he chooses not to, his support acts should respect that. |
I'm not sure Ed has been particularly bothered about avoiding politics in the past:
For him to claim that he avoids politics is gaslighting at its finest. | |
| Not a prophet, or a stone-age man; just a mortal with potential of a superman. | | Poll: | Worst Ginger? |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:49 - Sep 15 with 391 views | Libero |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:42 - Sep 15 by Zx1988 |
I'm not sure Ed has been particularly bothered about avoiding politics in the past:
For him to claim that he avoids politics is gaslighting at its finest. |
Yeah, but that was profitable and good for public image, so… | | | |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:53 - Sep 15 with 378 views | balcombeblue |
| Ed Sheeran on 12:32 - Sep 15 by positivity |
it's never been tried, murderous acts of terrorism are continuing daily right now, so the status quo isn't desirable for anyone.
it can't be more genocidal than the current situation |
oh yes it can. I point you towards history. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:02 - Sep 15 with 591 views | StokieBlue |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:00 - Sep 15 by Swailsey |
Ignorance and selfishness. |
Well, looks like I can't use a forum properly.
SB [Post edited 15 Sep 13:06]
|  |
| Avatar - M101 - Pinwheel Galaxy |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 13:12 - Sep 15 with 922 views | bartyg |
| Ed Sheeran on 11:09 - Sep 15 by ThatMuhrenCross |
I feel for Ed on this one. He's a global superstar who works very hard to remain neutral avoid bringing politics into his shows because he knows how damaging it can be to his brand, only for his mate to just absolutely drop him in it here.
Macklemore was probably warned that this was not something he could do on this tour and chose to ignore him. Ed is just a musician, not a politician, he doesn't need to be getting involved with any form of current affairs, so if he chooses not to, his support acts should respect that. |
"Macklemore was probably warned that this was not something he could do on this tour and chose to ignore him" this is pure conjecture. What are you basing this on? Macklemore's public support was surely known by Sheeran given how outspoken he has been on the issue, he was performing his 2024 protest song as part of the set. |  |
| |
| Ed Sheeran on 13:20 - Sep 15 with 890 views | JakeITFC |
Rock and a hard place for Ed, imo, and he's probably taken the least bad (or rather least disruptive) option.
Hopefully a knock on effect is that people avoid booking shows at Gillette Stadium going forward. |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
