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I know they aren’t literary masterpieces but I’ve enjoyed most of his books, a new one is out this week so a real shame he doesn’t get the chance to promote it
A liar and a sh1t but very charming in person. Certainly one of the speakers I have heard at a dinner - although his claim to have always been a supporter of the coal industry's benevolence association was one I was slightly sceptical of given he was in the Tory party in the mid-80s.
The sort of self-entitled, conscienceless little man who never acknowledges or apologises for his misdemeanours and crimes, but carries on bullsh!tting and manipulating people and convincing himself that it's everybody else's fault.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
A liar and a sh1t but very charming in person. Certainly one of the speakers I have heard at a dinner - although his claim to have always been a supporter of the coal industry's benevolence association was one I was slightly sceptical of given he was in the Tory party in the mid-80s.
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Think fact he just carried on knocking out novels whilst his epitaph was written 25 years ago is to his credit, would have been very easy to just retire in disgrace opposed to keep having to front up.
The sort of self-entitled, conscienceless little man who never acknowledges or apologises for his misdemeanours and crimes, but carries on bullsh!tting and manipulating people and convincing himself that it's everybody else's fault.
Yeah! It was pretty bloody harsh on Archer, who I never met, but the absolute opposite of applicable to the superb Mr Fairs, my favourite component of the excellent Blue Monday crew.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
It doesn’t make any sense to me that if you’re an MP and get imprisoned for over a year you get booted, but if you’re in the Lords it’s all fine and dandy.
I bear him no ill will but the description of his wife as fragrant always made me laugh because it suggested a little "bias" on the part of the judge..
"During the 1987 libel trial Mary Archer famously took the stand to support her husband.
The judge was so impressed by her demeanour that he mused why any husband would seek the company of a prostitute when he had Mrs Archer at home.
Summing up, Mr Justice Caulfield described Mrs Archer as a vision of "elegance, fragrance and radiance".
Lord Archer won his libel action and was awarded £500,000 damages."
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Jeffrey Archer RIP on 08:36 - Oct 6 with 1460 views
The sort of self-entitled, conscienceless little man who never acknowledges or apologises for his misdemeanours and crimes, but carries on bullsh!tting and manipulating people and convincing himself that it's everybody else's fault.
Stood on my wife's foot once (and made it bleed) when she was catering at a Party Conference. He never apologised - someone else eventually did on his behalf.
The sort of self-entitled, conscienceless little man who never acknowledges or apologises for his misdemeanours and crimes, but carries on bullsh!tting and manipulating people and convincing himself that it's everybody else's fault.
Jeffrey Archer RIP on 08:26 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue
It doesn’t make any sense to me that if you’re an MP and get imprisoned for over a year you get booted, but if you’re in the Lords it’s all fine and dandy.
Guess it helps add a diversity of opinion and experiences…..!
Jeffrey Archer RIP on 08:26 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue
It doesn’t make any sense to me that if you’re an MP and get imprisoned for over a year you get booted, but if you’re in the Lords it’s all fine and dandy.
Don't know much about him beyond the standard wiki biography and haven't read his books. He was rightfully put away and did his time.
But shortly after Archer's release from prison, I found a greetings card on my dad's study desk at home. Printed on the front: "From the office of Jeffrey Archer" and inside a handwritten note "Thank you for your support during a difficult time - JA" (or something along these lines). I never did ask what form this support took.
We've never sent politicians to jail for simply lying. There'd hardly be anyone left in parliament otherwise. Best you can hope for is they are sacked (if a minister), kicked out the party or shamed into resigning.
Jeffrey Archer RIP on 13:20 - Oct 6 by baxterbasics
Important distinction.
We've never sent politicians to jail for simply lying. There'd hardly be anyone left in parliament otherwise. Best you can hope for is they are sacked (if a minister), kicked out the party or shamed into resigning.
Lying in court under oath, different matter.
It's often puzzled me, and there may be a legal distinction but, doesn't everyone who pleads Not Guilty but are found Guilty commit perjury and attempt to pervert the course of justice. Just seems that sentences given out purely for the later offences often exceed those for many other crimes.
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Jeffrey Archer RIP on 13:48 - Oct 6 by longtimefan
It's often puzzled me, and there may be a legal distinction but, doesn't everyone who pleads Not Guilty but are found Guilty commit perjury and attempt to pervert the course of justice. Just seems that sentences given out purely for the later offences often exceed those for many other crimes.
But people who plead not guilty do not do that under oath - isn’t that more a request that the prosecution have to prove their case?
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Jeffrey Archer RIP on 13:55 - Oct 6 by MattinLondon
But people who plead not guilty do not do that under oath - isn’t that more a request that the prosecution have to prove their case?
Indeed. Testimony is given under oath, not procedural stuff like pleading.
Peverting the course of justice refers to conduct which tries to throw the police and investigating authorities off the trail, such as tampering with, concealing or destroying evidence, influencing or silencing witnesses, lying during testimony and so on.
Jeffrey Archer RIP on 14:09 - Oct 6 by longtimefan
But surely, in the majority of cases the evidence they are giving is under oath, and is often untruthful.
The bar to clear for perjury is very high. A statement that is untrue is not sufficient. The prosecution would need to prove the accused's deliberate intention to give false statement they knew to be false. A wrong statement is untruthful but not perjurious. You cannot accidentally commit perjury.
Hypothetical: - Person A shot Person B - Person A says that they saw Person B advancing on them with a knife. - The Prosecution proves that there was never a knife on Person B - The lack of the knife is not evidence of perjury. - To prove perjury, they would need to prove that Person A knew there was never a knife and deliberately lied. - Unless there is evidence of Person A fabricating the story to intentionally mislead, there is no evidence of perjury. - That bar is incredibly tough to prove and is usually pointless because you've already found them guilty.
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