| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months 14:28 - Nov 9 with 3444 views | BasingstokeBlue |
About 7 years until released on license.
Edit: added time so be served until allowed out on license. [Post edited 9 Nov 14:32]
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 15:43 - Nov 9 | BlueBadger |
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 17:32 - Nov 9 | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 15:43 - Nov 9 by BlueBadger |
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Ask for consent. |
Think his brief needs investigating too. Some of the stuff he has said, and done during the trial, tells me he's cut from a similar cloth.
1. He said it occurred after "fully consensual vaginal intercourse" and "was quite a short... momentary total failure to respect her consent"
2. He argues that being "tipsy" shouldn’t be considered as being vulnerable.
3. The defence barrister now argues the woman who Brand anally raped was "not particularly vulnerable - she must have felt sufficiently confident [going to his house], considering the sort of persona, and the sort of sex he would engage in".
4. These incidents occurred at a point in his career when Brand was very famous, Winter says. He adds that Brand's crimes were connected to that exposure to fame.
Add into all of that, calling the investigative journalist "You B*tch", after the verdict [Post edited 9 Nov 17:35]
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 17:35 - Nov 9 | redrickstuhaart |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 17:32 - Nov 9 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Think his brief needs investigating too. Some of the stuff he has said, and done during the trial, tells me he's cut from a similar cloth.
1. He said it occurred after "fully consensual vaginal intercourse" and "was quite a short... momentary total failure to respect her consent"
2. He argues that being "tipsy" shouldn’t be considered as being vulnerable.
3. The defence barrister now argues the woman who Brand anally raped was "not particularly vulnerable - she must have felt sufficiently confident [going to his house], considering the sort of persona, and the sort of sex he would engage in".
4. These incidents occurred at a point in his career when Brand was very famous, Winter says. He adds that Brand's crimes were connected to that exposure to fame.
Add into all of that, calling the investigative journalist "You B*tch", after the verdict [Post edited 9 Nov 17:35]
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Has to put the clients case and make the arguments. |  |
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 17:38 - Nov 9 | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 17:35 - Nov 9 by redrickstuhaart |
Has to put the clients case and make the arguments. |
Which of his arguments do you agree with?
You can set out mitigation without victim blaming. | |
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 19:05 - Nov 9 | redrickstuhaart |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 17:38 - Nov 9 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Which of his arguments do you agree with?
You can set out mitigation without victim blaming. |
Absolutely irrelevant to what I said.
And if vulnerability is argued by the other side, he has to address it. Whether you, or I, or he agree with the argument or not. | |
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 19:20 - Nov 9 | J2BLUE |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 17:38 - Nov 9 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Which of his arguments do you agree with?
You can set out mitigation without victim blaming. |
How did you read that and think he agreed? |  | | |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 19:26 - Nov 9 | Dubtractor |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 19:05 - Nov 9 by redrickstuhaart |
Absolutely irrelevant to what I said.
And if vulnerability is argued by the other side, he has to address it. Whether you, or I, or he agree with the argument or not. |
I'd imagine if you were to review the defence case in pretty much any case along these lines, it would seem pretty appalling, but as you state the role of the defence is to counter the claims made. And that counter will largely be based on the case made to them by the defendant.
The comments he made outside the court are indefensible though. [Post edited 9 Nov 19:26]
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 20:38 - Nov 9 | GlasgowBlue |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 19:26 - Nov 9 by Dubtractor |
I'd imagine if you were to review the defence case in pretty much any case along these lines, it would seem pretty appalling, but as you state the role of the defence is to counter the claims made. And that counter will largely be based on the case made to them by the defendant.
The comments he made outside the court are indefensible though. [Post edited 9 Nov 19:26]
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Brand's father is also a nasty piece of work. Claiming his son was the real victim and that the women were throwing themselves at him. |  |
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 20:59 - Nov 9 | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 20:38 - Nov 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Brand's father is also a nasty piece of work. Claiming his son was the real victim and that the women were throwing themselves at him. |
Don't know if you can read this but you're spot on. Brand's father has a lot to answer for, not just during this trial.. He took his son to prostitutes when he was only a kid and forced him to lose his virginity to one. I suspect a lot of Brand's lack of respect for women stems from that. |  |
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| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 21:27 - Nov 9 | catch74 |
| Going to jail for something he didn't do..... on 20:38 - Nov 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Brand's father is also a nasty piece of work. Claiming his son was the real victim and that the women were throwing themselves at him. |
Barred from all the pubs in Farnham when I worked there. Not
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| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 07:12 - Nov 10 | Ftnfwest |
Shouldn’t it just be a leaflet? |  | | |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:21 - Nov 10 | OldFootball |
It's interesting how he got a longer sentence than most of the convictions for the rape gangs. I wonder why that was. |  | | |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:27 - Nov 10 | redrickstuhaart |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:21 - Nov 10 by OldFootball |
It's interesting how he got a longer sentence than most of the convictions for the rape gangs. I wonder why that was. |
Rochdale
• Mohammed Zahid (Ringleader): 35 years (for 20 offences)
• Kasir Bashir: 29 years (for 4 offences, sentenced in absentia)
• Mushtaq Ahmed: 27 years (for 9 offences)
• Mohammed Shahzad: 26 years (for 6 offences)
• Naheem Akram: 26 years (for 7 offences)
• Nisar Hussain: 19 years (for 3 offences)
• Roheez Khan: 12 years (for 1 offence)
Oh. [Post edited 10 Nov 21:28]
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| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:30 - Nov 10 | MattinLondon |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:21 - Nov 10 by OldFootball |
It's interesting how he got a longer sentence than most of the convictions for the rape gangs. I wonder why that was. |
This thread has certainly brought out the c**ts tonight. A quick google search - and I mean thirty secs - highlighted that OldFootball’s post is complete rubbish.
Recent UK court cases and police investigations into non-recent child sexual exploitation and grooming rings have resulted in significant convictions and lengthy prison sentences:
Rochdale Grooming Gang (Sentenced October 2025)
• Overview: Seven men were convicted by a jury of 50 child sexual offences involving two vulnerable schoolgirls between 2001 and 2006 following a Greater Manchester Police investigation.
• Sentences: Totalled 174 years in prison:
• Mohammed Zahid (Ringleader): 35 years
• Kasir Bashir: 29 years
• Mushtaq Ahmed: 27 years
• Mohammed Shahzad: 26 years
• Naheem Akram: 26 years
• Nisar Hussain: 19 years
• Roheez Khan: 12 years
Kirklees / West Yorkshire Sexual Abuse Cases (Sentenced 2025–May 2026)
• Overview: Twenty men were convicted for historical child sexual abuse committed decades ago, with the final sentencing concluded by West Yorkshire Police.
• Sentences: Ranged up to 28 years for individual members:
• Sajid Majid: 28 years
• Manaf Hussain: 25 years
• Tariq Azam: 24 years
• Zulfiqar Ali: 22 years, 6 months
• Aurrangzeb Azam: 20 years
• Other defendants received custodial sentences ranging from 11 to 30 years (including added consecutive terms).
Blackrod Grooming Gang, Bolton (Sentenced April 2025)
• Overview: Ten men were sentenced at Liverpool Crown Court following a Crown Prosecution Service investigation into the grooming and sexual exploitation of underage girls in Greater Manchester.
• Sentences: Ranged from suspended sentences to 15 years in prison.
• Ashley Darbyshire (Primary Offender): 15 years in prison (serving 10 years in custody) plus a lifetime on the Sex Offenders' Register |  | | |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:34 - Nov 10 | MattinLondon |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:27 - Nov 10 by redrickstuhaart |
Rochdale
• Mohammed Zahid (Ringleader): 35 years (for 20 offences)
• Kasir Bashir: 29 years (for 4 offences, sentenced in absentia)
• Mushtaq Ahmed: 27 years (for 9 offences)
• Mohammed Shahzad: 26 years (for 6 offences)
• Naheem Akram: 26 years (for 7 offences)
• Nisar Hussain: 19 years (for 3 offences)
• Roheez Khan: 12 years (for 1 offence)
Oh. [Post edited 10 Nov 21:28]
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Apologies, you posted this in reply just before I did.
I wonder why that poster made the comparison and also wrote complete rubbish. | | | |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:36 - Nov 10 | redrickstuhaart |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:34 - Nov 10 by MattinLondon |
Apologies, you posted this in reply just before I did.
I wonder why that poster made the comparison and also wrote complete rubbish. |
Because its culture war nonsense propagated on social media which he has probably absorbed over time, within a Reform / Restore echo chamber. | |
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| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:41 - Nov 10 | The_Romford_Blue |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:21 - Nov 10 by OldFootball |
It's interesting how he got a longer sentence than most of the convictions for the rape gangs. I wonder why that was. |
Make that two disgusting posts.
Wtf is wrong with you |  |
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| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 23:15 - Nov 10 | alexlanark64 |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 21:27 - Nov 10 by redrickstuhaart |
Rochdale
• Mohammed Zahid (Ringleader): 35 years (for 20 offences)
• Kasir Bashir: 29 years (for 4 offences, sentenced in absentia)
• Mushtaq Ahmed: 27 years (for 9 offences)
• Mohammed Shahzad: 26 years (for 6 offences)
• Naheem Akram: 26 years (for 7 offences)
• Nisar Hussain: 19 years (for 3 offences)
• Roheez Khan: 12 years (for 1 offence)
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• 2012 Rochdale Trial (Operation Doublet / First Major Trial):
• Kabeer Hassan: 9 years (for rape and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children).
• Abdul Aziz: 9 years (for trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy).
• Adil Khan: 8 years.
• Abdul Rauf: 6 years (for trafficking and conspiracy).
• Mohammed Sajid: 12 years (higher, noted for comparison).
• Mohammed Amin: 5 years (for sexual assault and conspiracy).
• Abdul Qayyum: 5 years (for conspiracy).
• Hamid Safi: 4 years (for trafficking and conspiracy).
• 2016 Rochdale Trial (Operation Doublet follow-up):
• Kutab Miah: 9 years
• Rehan Ali: 7 years
• Abid Khan: 6.5 years
• Mohammed Zahid: 5 years
• Mahfuz Rahman: 5.5 years | | | |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 23:24 - Nov 10 | redrickstuhaart |
| Brand gets 10 years and 6 months on 23:15 - Nov 10 by alexlanark64 |
• 2012 Rochdale Trial (Operation Doublet / First Major Trial):
• Kabeer Hassan: 9 years (for rape and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children).
• Abdul Aziz: 9 years (for trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy).
• Adil Khan: 8 years.
• Abdul Rauf: 6 years (for trafficking and conspiracy).
• Mohammed Sajid: 12 years (higher, noted for comparison).
• Mohammed Amin: 5 years (for sexual assault and conspiracy).
• Abdul Qayyum: 5 years (for conspiracy).
• Hamid Safi: 4 years (for trafficking and conspiracy).
• 2016 Rochdale Trial (Operation Doublet follow-up):
• Kutab Miah: 9 years
• Rehan Ali: 7 years
• Abid Khan: 6.5 years
• Mohammed Zahid: 5 years
• Mahfuz Rahman: 5.5 years |
Before changes to sentencing guidelines. It's not difficult. | |
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I know it’s his job to defend, but are borderline illegal acts normally considered a valid defence? Was it just because he had so little to work with or a genuine belief that Brand’s actions weren’t much of an issue? I suppose that’s a rhetorical question. 
