| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? 13:37 - Jan 2 with 5693 views | homer_123 |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42542640
Genuine question.
And for the chaps of the board, do you get offended when called love or dear or pet by the opposite sex?
EDIT: I should state that the Tweeted response from Virgin is indeed crap, I'm asking more about the original situation. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 13:42]
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:42 - Jan 2 with 4341 views | Steve_M |
Whilst obviously not female, the whole bantz thing in response to a customer complaint is pathetic from any company. To do so when the rail companies are about to get a - deserved - kicking for putting up fares is even more stupid. |  |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:43 - Jan 2 with 4331 views | homer_123 |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:42 - Jan 2 by Steve_M |
Whilst obviously not female, the whole bantz thing in response to a customer complaint is pathetic from any company. To do so when the rail companies are about to get a - deserved - kicking for putting up fares is even more stupid. |
Oddly, just edited my OP as I was referring to the original comment, not the subsequent crap one from Virgin Trains. | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:51 - Jan 2 with 4302 views | GeoffSentence |
I hate to hear people using terms like honey, dear, pet or love. As the complainant point out they are patronising and demeaning. |  |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:52 - Jan 2 with 4303 views | BrixtonBlue |
Can people not take a joke anymore (which this obviously is)? Probably misplaced but is it that big a deal? The person who wrote it may well get sacked - and the woman complaining must surely know this. Does she really want someone starting the new year out of work just because she can't take a joke? That's more pathetic IMO.
In answer to your question, I wouldn't get offended at any of those terms. My northern ex-housemate calls me pet all the time. No idea it was even offensive. |  |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:54 - Jan 2 with 4288 views | Ryorry |
As the woman in question said, it's entirely down to the context:-
"The first person to check my ticket was very abrasive. His response to my explaining the situation, politely and honestly, and that I wanted to complain, was 'you go ahead honey'.
"In the context and given his aggressive tone I can only assume he didn't like being challenged by a woman.
"I wouldn't have complained if he'd used the term in a familial or affectionate way. It definitely wasn't that."
I don't know about her point re "being challenged by a woman" tho - quite possibly he'd have been just as rude to a man, just used a different term to be unpleasant with. Sadly, some people are just like that. |  |
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| Read it again on 13:55 - Jan 2 with 4283 views | Dyland |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:52 - Jan 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Can people not take a joke anymore (which this obviously is)? Probably misplaced but is it that big a deal? The person who wrote it may well get sacked - and the woman complaining must surely know this. Does she really want someone starting the new year out of work just because she can't take a joke? That's more pathetic IMO.
In answer to your question, I wouldn't get offended at any of those terms. My northern ex-housemate calls me pet all the time. No idea it was even offensive. |
She isn't bothered by being called "pet, love, etc" when the tone is friendly.
I call my female colleagues "love" all the time. |  |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:56 - Jan 2 with 4278 views | J2BLUE |
I'm offended by the gross stupidity of the response. How did they think that would go down? Idiots. |  |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:56 - Jan 2 with 4275 views | Dyland |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:54 - Jan 2 by Ryorry |
As the woman in question said, it's entirely down to the context:-
"The first person to check my ticket was very abrasive. His response to my explaining the situation, politely and honestly, and that I wanted to complain, was 'you go ahead honey'.
"In the context and given his aggressive tone I can only assume he didn't like being challenged by a woman.
"I wouldn't have complained if he'd used the term in a familial or affectionate way. It definitely wasn't that."
I don't know about her point re "being challenged by a woman" tho - quite possibly he'd have been just as rude to a man, just used a different term to be unpleasant with. Sadly, some people are just like that. |
Indeed. He just sounds like a knob. If it was a man complaining he probably would have called them sweetcheeks or something. | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:58 - Jan 2 with 4263 views | blueislander |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:54 - Jan 2 by Ryorry |
As the woman in question said, it's entirely down to the context:-
"The first person to check my ticket was very abrasive. His response to my explaining the situation, politely and honestly, and that I wanted to complain, was 'you go ahead honey'.
"In the context and given his aggressive tone I can only assume he didn't like being challenged by a woman.
"I wouldn't have complained if he'd used the term in a familial or affectionate way. It definitely wasn't that."
I don't know about her point re "being challenged by a woman" tho - quite possibly he'd have been just as rude to a man, just used a different term to be unpleasant with. Sadly, some people are just like that. |
Nearly every lady here of a certain age end their sentences with "my love" [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 13:58]
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:59 - Jan 2 with 4252 views | Deano69 |
She did say - "I wouldn't have complained if he'd used the term in a familial or affectionate way. It definitely wasn't that." |  |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:01 - Jan 2 with 4244 views | chicoazul |
MY OUTRAGE WELL IS INFINITE I WILL GET OFFENDED ON ANYONE'S BEHALF FOR ANYTHING |  |
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| Read it again on 14:02 - Jan 2 with 4231 views | chicoazul |
| Read it again on 13:55 - Jan 2 by Dyland |
She isn't bothered by being called "pet, love, etc" when the tone is friendly.
I call my female colleagues "love" all the time. |
"cup of tea no sugar luv there's a good girl" says Dyland as he pats Stacey from accounts on the arse. | |
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| Read it again on 14:03 - Jan 2 with 4215 views | Dyland |
| Read it again on 14:02 - Jan 2 by chicoazul |
"cup of tea no sugar luv there's a good girl" says Dyland as he pats Stacey from accounts on the arse. |
Oh god, we work in the same office. | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:04 - Jan 2 with 4210 views | stig4532 |
I'm a male and I'm regularly called "love" or "lovely" by people calling the office. It doesn't bother me the slightest. |  | | |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:10 - Jan 2 with 4180 views | Dyland |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:04 - Jan 2 by stig4532 |
I'm a male and I'm regularly called "love" or "lovely" by people calling the office. It doesn't bother me the slightest. |
Are these callers random members of the public, or are they your clients? It sounds like an old school theatrical agency :) | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:10 - Jan 2 with 4175 views | homer_123 |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:56 - Jan 2 by J2BLUE |
I'm offended by the gross stupidity of the response. How did they think that would go down? Idiots. |
Indeed. | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:16 - Jan 2 with 4157 views | homer_123 |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:54 - Jan 2 by Ryorry |
As the woman in question said, it's entirely down to the context:-
"The first person to check my ticket was very abrasive. His response to my explaining the situation, politely and honestly, and that I wanted to complain, was 'you go ahead honey'.
"In the context and given his aggressive tone I can only assume he didn't like being challenged by a woman.
"I wouldn't have complained if he'd used the term in a familial or affectionate way. It definitely wasn't that."
I don't know about her point re "being challenged by a woman" tho - quite possibly he'd have been just as rude to a man, just used a different term to be unpleasant with. Sadly, some people are just like that. |
Context is indeed everything here.
However, a scenario:
Said train company employee reguargly uses the word Honey, Pet Love et al - in his/ her daily life (it's the way he/ she was brought up etc./ generational thing etc.)
If this person uses those terms all the time, then should the lady be offended by the use of the term just because the person was rude? Surely, she should be upset about the person being rude and not by the use of the word honey, in this situation?
I'm not excusing this by the way. | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:26 - Jan 2 with 4119 views | SomethingBlue |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 13:52 - Jan 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Can people not take a joke anymore (which this obviously is)? Probably misplaced but is it that big a deal? The person who wrote it may well get sacked - and the woman complaining must surely know this. Does she really want someone starting the new year out of work just because she can't take a joke? That's more pathetic IMO.
In answer to your question, I wouldn't get offended at any of those terms. My northern ex-housemate calls me pet all the time. No idea it was even offensive. |
Far better for the person tweeting behind the corporate handle to consider their tone though. Think people are fed up in general of brands pretending to be their mates — but in the case of the trains, on this particular day, it's even worse! | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:30 - Jan 2 with 4093 views | BrixtonBlue |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:26 - Jan 2 by SomethingBlue |
Far better for the person tweeting behind the corporate handle to consider their tone though. Think people are fed up in general of brands pretending to be their mates — but in the case of the trains, on this particular day, it's even worse! |
Yeah, as I said it was misplaced. Really worth the fuss and a front page story on the BBC news website? | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:33 - Jan 2 with 4081 views | Mullet |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:26 - Jan 2 by SomethingBlue |
Far better for the person tweeting behind the corporate handle to consider their tone though. Think people are fed up in general of brands pretending to be their mates — but in the case of the trains, on this particular day, it's even worse! |
I think that's the thing with social media. If you're a brand then talk like one. The worst offenders being betting sites and JOE et al. who all sound like they're the characters that didn't quite make the cut in the Inbetweeners.
I do think though a lot of people are happy to seize on social media interactions to kick up a bit of a fuss though. A lot of these stories are the equivalent of local news running with "bus was late today, people got wet waiting for it and grumbled" yet somehow they get national coverage as make cheap padding of content. |  |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:34 - Jan 2 with 4075 views | Ryorry |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:16 - Jan 2 by homer_123 |
Context is indeed everything here.
However, a scenario:
Said train company employee reguargly uses the word Honey, Pet Love et al - in his/ her daily life (it's the way he/ she was brought up etc./ generational thing etc.)
If this person uses those terms all the time, then should the lady be offended by the use of the term just because the person was rude? Surely, she should be upset about the person being rude and not by the use of the word honey, in this situation?
I'm not excusing this by the way. |
What we don't know is tone of voice, any emphasis on the various words, body language etc - I'd have thought she was going by the sum of the parts. | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:47 - Jan 2 with 4032 views | stig4532 |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:10 - Jan 2 by Dyland |
Are these callers random members of the public, or are they your clients? It sounds like an old school theatrical agency :) |
Ha! No, they're staff members wishing to book shifts. Just over-friendly I guess | | | |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:48 - Jan 2 with 4026 views | Dyland |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:47 - Jan 2 by stig4532 |
Ha! No, they're staff members wishing to book shifts. Just over-friendly I guess |
Very friendly and simply appreciate your excellent assistance no doubt :) | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 15:01 - Jan 2 with 3981 views | homer_123 |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 14:34 - Jan 2 by Ryorry |
What we don't know is tone of voice, any emphasis on the various words, body language etc - I'd have thought she was going by the sum of the parts. |
I think you are spot on Ryorry.
The reason I asked the above is this, what happens if the use of the word 'honey' is replaced with the persons name? | |
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| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 15:04 - Jan 2 with 3966 views | Dyland |
| To our female fans, would you be offended in this situ? on 15:01 - Jan 2 by homer_123 |
I think you are spot on Ryorry.
The reason I asked the above is this, what happens if the use of the word 'honey' is replaced with the persons name? |
Well if that happened there would be a long pause, and as the camera zooms in and an ominous soundtrack begins she would say quietly but insistently, "how do you know my name?" | |
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