| Classic Elitist MP 12:18 - Jan 16 with 9521 views | Jonnosdreadlocks |
Sandy Martin (Ipswich MP) displaying typical arrogance and disregard for the majority of his constituents. Says 56% is not a ringing endorsement yet he only got in by 836 votes! Maybe we should have a second vote for his election or just have a 'soft election' of Martin where he only gets to be able to do 'bits and pieces'. Sums up the hypocrisey in Brexit. The vote was to leave not a deal. This bellend is typical of so many MP's and the remainer PM are the ones who do not want a deal hence all this delay, stall, and impasse BS we are presently at because they will not act on the vote of 17.4 million who won the referendum.
https://order-order.com/2019/01/16/ipswich-mp-know-better-constituents/
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:24 - Jan 16 with 4816 views | Superfrans |
I am in favour of remaining, but totally accept that this is not the only opinion - and that if there is a majority in favour of leaving, we should leave. Just to be clear.
But for me, the utter failure of this entire process is to educate people who want to leave that it's not like cancelling your gym membership - you can't just stop your direct debit and the next day find yourself out, without suffering serious repercussions. |  |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:28 - Jan 16 with 4796 views | Lanky |
It's clear he was just talking about why we have a representative democracy. Conveniently cut-off excerpt there from Guido. |  | | |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:32 - Jan 16 with 4772 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Unfortunately no one really knows what the leave voters wanted.
So many flaws in the referendum. Watering down such a complex issue into a yes / no vote. |  |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:36 - Jan 16 with 4734 views | giant_stow |
The 17.4 million are the only ones who matter then.
I've got to admit, part of me wouldn't mind if you lot got your way, as long as you all took responsibility for the ensuing mess, hardship and poverty. All 17.4m of you. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:36]
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:38 - Jan 16 with 4710 views | footers |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:36 - Jan 16 by giant_stow |
The 17.4 million are the only ones who matter then.
I've got to admit, part of me wouldn't mind if you lot got your way, as long as you all took responsibility for the ensuing mess, hardship and poverty. All 17.4m of you. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:36]
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:39 - Jan 16 with 4697 views | tractordownsouth |
Hang on Jonno, you've just called him a bellend? I thought you get upset when ' lefties' insult you? |  |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:43 - Jan 16 with 4675 views | Jonnosdreadlocks |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:28 - Jan 16 by Lanky |
It's clear he was just talking about why we have a representative democracy. Conveniently cut-off excerpt there from Guido. |
ahhh so if it had come from the guardian that would be ok.... | |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:44 - Jan 16 with 4655 views | footers |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:43 - Jan 16 by Jonnosdreadlocks |
ahhh so if it had come from the guardian that would be ok.... |
What does representative democracy mean, jonnos? | |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:48 - Jan 16 with 4627 views | Championship |
Is there video of this? “Yeah, okay” seems quite an odd response, almost as if he was dismissing the question rather than confirming it. |  | | |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:48 - Jan 16 with 4630 views | Jonnosdreadlocks |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:24 - Jan 16 by Superfrans |
I am in favour of remaining, but totally accept that this is not the only opinion - and that if there is a majority in favour of leaving, we should leave. Just to be clear.
But for me, the utter failure of this entire process is to educate people who want to leave that it's not like cancelling your gym membership - you can't just stop your direct debit and the next day find yourself out, without suffering serious repercussions. |
Your phrase 'failure of this entire process to EDUCATE people who want to leave that's its not like cancelling your gym membership' typifies 'the arrogant, we know best' attitude of the ruling class, MSM, and academia. We know best peasants!!! I [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:50]
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:48 - Jan 16 with 4621 views | giant_stow |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:38 - Jan 16 by footers |
"I voted for Brexit but I didn't vote for this!" |
almost certainly. | |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 12:54 - Jan 16 with 4590 views | giant_stow |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:48 - Jan 16 by Jonnosdreadlocks |
Your phrase 'failure of this entire process to EDUCATE people who want to leave that's its not like cancelling your gym membership' typifies 'the arrogant, we know best' attitude of the ruling class, MSM, and academia. We know best peasants!!! I [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:50]
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Its all very well banging on about peasants being patronised, but at what point do you acknowledge that the vast majority of people in the know, be they business leaders, politicians, academics or economists warn against a hard brexit? | |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 13:00 - Jan 16 with 4551 views | m14_blue |
Jonno, have you ever thought that these MP’s are acting as they are because they genuinely think it’s in the best interests of their constituents and the country?
You may disagree with their assessment, that’s fair enough. You may even think it wrong for them to go against the referendum result, I can understand that too.
But is there any need for the aggression and abuse just because they disagree with you? This anger and bullying of elected MP’s is becoming far too common amongst leave supporters and I fear is developing into something more sinister. |  | | |
| Classic Elitist MP on 13:04 - Jan 16 with 4532 views | phillev231069 |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:24 - Jan 16 by Superfrans |
I am in favour of remaining, but totally accept that this is not the only opinion - and that if there is a majority in favour of leaving, we should leave. Just to be clear.
But for me, the utter failure of this entire process is to educate people who want to leave that it's not like cancelling your gym membership - you can't just stop your direct debit and the next day find yourself out, without suffering serious repercussions. |
Spot on! Mr Cameron made it all sound so easy the gammon faced tw@t and all to keep his MP's happy and look where we are now, still it's all on the Tories watch. Nothing like creating a massive mess and not having the skill set to clear it up. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 13:07]
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| Classic Elitist MP on 13:09 - Jan 16 with 4486 views | Wat_tyler |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:48 - Jan 16 by Jonnosdreadlocks |
Your phrase 'failure of this entire process to EDUCATE people who want to leave that's its not like cancelling your gym membership' typifies 'the arrogant, we know best' attitude of the ruling class, MSM, and academia. We know best peasants!!! I [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:50]
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Clearly the education system is failing you. |  | | |
| Classic Elitist MP on 13:09 - Jan 16 with 4484 views | Deano69 |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:24 - Jan 16 by Superfrans |
I am in favour of remaining, but totally accept that this is not the only opinion - and that if there is a majority in favour of leaving, we should leave. Just to be clear.
But for me, the utter failure of this entire process is to educate people who want to leave that it's not like cancelling your gym membership - you can't just stop your direct debit and the next day find yourself out, without suffering serious repercussions. |
Totally agree. And just to clarify, the mountains of money we are supposed to be saving by not being in isn't going to fix it either.
Messy divorce, not even the lawyers win this time. |  |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 13:14 - Jan 16 with 4460 views | a_las_barricadas |
Job of a politician is to represent constituents, but not necessarily their opinions. Politicians should know more than us about issues and therefore can vote in a more informed manner. We do not vote or have a referendum on every issue or policy because we do not have time to be fully informed. This is why we will not have a vote in something like the death penalty, because despite everyone being able to have an opinion, they do not have time to research or sometimes the ability to make a sound ethical decision. Voting purely on an emotional basis without reflection,
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| Classic Elitist MP on 13:14 - Jan 16 with 4460 views | mrshallisfit |
You don't think that the Tory party plays a reasonable part in the utter mess we are currently in. Focus instead on Sandy Martin and Remainers in general. Think someone has a slightly wobbly angle of reality. | | | |
| Classic Elitist MP on 13:28 - Jan 16 with 4408 views | artsbossbeard |
U ok hun? xx
Sending hugs. PM me if you wanna chat. |  |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 13:30 - Jan 16 with 4390 views | Steve_M |
| Classic Elitist MP on 12:36 - Jan 16 by giant_stow |
The 17.4 million are the only ones who matter then.
I've got to admit, part of me wouldn't mind if you lot got your way, as long as you all took responsibility for the ensuing mess, hardship and poverty. All 17.4m of you. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:36]
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Ha, ha, ha. Responsibility and that lot of politicians? |  |
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| Classic Elitist MP on 13:31 - Jan 16 with 4385 views | SpruceMoose |
Do you ever stop to think, that maybe, just maybe, you're not right about this, and all those MPs and experts and people who think leaving would be a monumental mistake might be, you know, right?
I mean, fook me, but I'd sooner trust their opinion that some extremist gonad with a penchant for racist outbursts on football forums. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 13:33]
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| Classic Elitist MP on 13:42 - Jan 16 with 4308 views | mrshallisfit |
| Classic Elitist MP on 13:31 - Jan 16 by SpruceMoose |
Do you ever stop to think, that maybe, just maybe, you're not right about this, and all those MPs and experts and people who think leaving would be a monumental mistake might be, you know, right?
I mean, fook me, but I'd sooner trust their opinion that some extremist gonad with a penchant for racist outbursts on football forums. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 13:33]
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I reckon he is setting up a run to hills militia group in Rendlesham Forest dont you Moosey. | | | |
| Classic Elitist MP on 13:45 - Jan 16 with 4294 views | ChiefXL |
The same constituents who voted him into Parliament you mean? |  | | |
| Classic Elitist MP on 13:50 - Jan 16 with 4266 views | SpruceMoose |
| Classic Elitist MP on 13:42 - Jan 16 by mrshallisfit |
I reckon he is setting up a run to hills militia group in Rendlesham Forest dont you Moosey. |
Doubt it. He has to be back in time for tea or else his mum starts to worry about him. | |
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| Classic Elitist MP (n/t) on 14:20 - Jan 16 with 4192 views | sotd78 |
Let's not deal in facts anymore - they clearly got us into this mess.
All those facts that both sides bandied about?
Let's just deal now in fantasies like: The Referendum was an Advisory vote.
It was binary - let's Leave (what exactly we are leaving is very clear isn't it?)
It cannot ever be changed. That's clearly a fact. We could have a dozen new Governments but the Advisory Referendum is untouchable. It is as cast in stone as the Ten Commandments. In fact it is surely the Eleventh Commandment - thou shalt leave!
Unless.... [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 14:25]
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