| "Decent" Tories 09:37 - Dec 2 with 4123 views | Dubtractor |
I'm clinging to the hope that there must be enough of these to stop Johnson getting a majority.
I'm talking about the type of person who is so disgusted in the way he is running the party that they simply can't vote for him. We know there are several in this category on this site.
Will there be enough of those voting liberal Democrats to leave us with another hung parliament? |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:42 - Dec 2 with 2008 views | footers |
"Decent Tories"? Have the pubs opened early today, Dubbers? |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:44 - Dec 2 with 2004 views | hampstead_blue |
Interesting idea to solve the BJ problem.
I'd offer a counter.
Those who, like myself, are unhappy with BJ vote Tory. Canvas from within for change.
Another hung parliament would have the potential of ramping-up tension and it's bad enough as it is.
Voter apathy could go off the scale.
I'll vote for change, a change at the top of the Tory party. If it takes a couple of years then fine. I don't think BJ has the interest to hang around for too long.
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| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:45 - Dec 2 with 1990 views | ZedRodgers |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:44 - Dec 2 by hampstead_blue |
Interesting idea to solve the BJ problem.
I'd offer a counter.
Those who, like myself, are unhappy with BJ vote Tory. Canvas from within for change.
Another hung parliament would have the potential of ramping-up tension and it's bad enough as it is.
Voter apathy could go off the scale.
I'll vote for change, a change at the top of the Tory party. If it takes a couple of years then fine. I don't think BJ has the interest to hang around for too long.
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What could possibly go wrong? |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:46 - Dec 2 with 1987 views | chicoazul |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:45 - Dec 2 by ZedRodgers |
What could possibly go wrong? |
Zed, if Labour lose the way it looks like they will, and the Maximum Leader retires to his dacha, who will you want in charge? |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:46 - Dec 2 with 1981 views | Herbivore |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:44 - Dec 2 by hampstead_blue |
Interesting idea to solve the BJ problem.
I'd offer a counter.
Those who, like myself, are unhappy with BJ vote Tory. Canvas from within for change.
Another hung parliament would have the potential of ramping-up tension and it's bad enough as it is.
Voter apathy could go off the scale.
I'll vote for change, a change at the top of the Tory party. If it takes a couple of years then fine. I don't think BJ has the interest to hang around for too long.
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If you vote Tory you don't care about poor people or the NHS, or public services generally. You can keep lying to yourself to help you sleep at night but that's the stark reality of it. |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:46 - Dec 2 with 1980 views | footers |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:44 - Dec 2 by hampstead_blue |
Interesting idea to solve the BJ problem.
I'd offer a counter.
Those who, like myself, are unhappy with BJ vote Tory. Canvas from within for change.
Another hung parliament would have the potential of ramping-up tension and it's bad enough as it is.
Voter apathy could go off the scale.
I'll vote for change, a change at the top of the Tory party. If it takes a couple of years then fine. I don't think BJ has the interest to hang around for too long.
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"Canvas from within for change."
Bit like the EU. | |
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:48 - Dec 2 with 1975 views | ZedRodgers |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:46 - Dec 2 by chicoazul |
Zed, if Labour lose the way it looks like they will, and the Maximum Leader retires to his dacha, who will you want in charge? |
Me | |
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| (No subject) on 09:54 - Dec 2 with 1961 views | factual_blue |
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| "Decent" Tories on 09:56 - Dec 2 with 1950 views | Bluefish |
Thanks mate, I've never been called decent before |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:08 - Dec 2 with 1932 views | J2BLUE |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:46 - Dec 2 by Herbivore |
If you vote Tory you don't care about poor people or the NHS, or public services generally. You can keep lying to yourself to help you sleep at night but that's the stark reality of it. |
He only considers things from the military perspective. We could draw all sorts of conclusions from what he has posted and what Corbyn has said but I don't have all day to deny that i'm insulting an injured veteran. |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:12 - Dec 2 with 1921 views | Dubtractor |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:56 - Dec 2 by Bluefish |
Thanks mate, I've never been called decent before |
I thought I'd try and play nice today. Plus, it's a relative term.... | |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:13 - Dec 2 with 1909 views | hampstead_blue |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:46 - Dec 2 by footers |
"Canvas from within for change."
Bit like the EU. |
If that were possible.
Is there were any realistic opportunity for scaling back the tentacles of their reach then maybe..... | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:14 - Dec 2 with 1903 views | lowhouseblue |
i am sure that if there were a credible opposition lots of moderate tories would be defecting now. but ….
if there was a credible opposition boris would stand no chance. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:15 - Dec 2 with 1899 views | wkj |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:14 - Dec 2 by lowhouseblue |
i am sure that if there were a credible opposition lots of moderate tories would be defecting now. but ….
if there was a credible opposition boris would stand no chance. |
Which is exactly why Zed needs to run. |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:17 - Dec 2 with 1885 views | Guthrum |
| "Decent" Tories on 09:44 - Dec 2 by hampstead_blue |
Interesting idea to solve the BJ problem.
I'd offer a counter.
Those who, like myself, are unhappy with BJ vote Tory. Canvas from within for change.
Another hung parliament would have the potential of ramping-up tension and it's bad enough as it is.
Voter apathy could go off the scale.
I'll vote for change, a change at the top of the Tory party. If it takes a couple of years then fine. I don't think BJ has the interest to hang around for too long.
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Unfortunately for that approach, Johnson won the leadership election convincingly, without even personally trying. Winning a General Election will only bolster his standing among the membership. With the number of grandees and moderates defecting, effectively expelled or standing down, the parliamentary party is being considerably remodelled by his backers.
That's one heck of a tide to turn back if you want the Conservatives to follow another path. |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:20 - Dec 2 with 1877 views | Guthrum |
I think "disenchanted" is a better way to put it. I know several like that, either considering the LibDems or not voting at all. | |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:23 - Dec 2 with 1856 views | chicoazul |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:14 - Dec 2 by lowhouseblue |
i am sure that if there were a credible opposition lots of moderate tories would be defecting now. but ….
if there was a credible opposition boris would stand no chance. |
This is nonsense. The only time Labour have crushed the Tories in modern history was when the Tories had the single most boring man ever in charge followed by William Hague and Michael Howard. You still dont think most people vote tribally, which they do. | |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:29 - Dec 2 with 1828 views | Herbivore |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:14 - Dec 2 by lowhouseblue |
i am sure that if there were a credible opposition lots of moderate tories would be defecting now. but ….
if there was a credible opposition boris would stand no chance. |
You've still not explained how this "not credible" version. Of the Labour Party got 3.5m more votes in 2017 than the much more centrist Labour Party of 2015. | |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:29 - Dec 2 with 1830 views | lowhouseblue |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:23 - Dec 2 by chicoazul |
This is nonsense. The only time Labour have crushed the Tories in modern history was when the Tories had the single most boring man ever in charge followed by William Hague and Michael Howard. You still dont think most people vote tribally, which they do. |
there are lots of moderate tories who will be voting for boris with gritted teeth. even voting libdem isn't an option for them given the fear of letting corbyn in. the nutters at either end of the spectrum are getting to vote for something they want, everyone else has a choice between sh*t and a different sort of sh*t. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:30 - Dec 2 with 1823 views | itfcjoe |
The 'decent' tories have been purged, in the same way Momentum has taken over the Labour party, Banks and his cronies have taken over the Tories - from the inside. |  |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:30 - Dec 2 with 1817 views | lowhouseblue |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:29 - Dec 2 by Herbivore |
You've still not explained how this "not credible" version. Of the Labour Party got 3.5m more votes in 2017 than the much more centrist Labour Party of 2015. |
i have but you weren't listening.
we can all agree that any credible opposition would win an election against this awful tory government with a landslide, so let's see. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:32 - Dec 2 with 1802 views | Herbivore |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:20 - Dec 2 by Guthrum |
I think "disenchanted" is a better way to put it. I know several like that, either considering the LibDems or not voting at all. |
I think turnout will be interesting. The Tories are usually good at getting their vote out but I do wonder if we may see more Tories staying at home this time around. Theyay not be able to bring themselves to vote for another party but there must be some that are so disenchanted with Johnson that they won't vote for him either. | |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:34 - Dec 2 with 1791 views | footers |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:30 - Dec 2 by lowhouseblue |
i have but you weren't listening.
we can all agree that any credible opposition would win an election against this awful tory government with a landslide, so let's see. |
There's no chance of a landslide thanks to the SNP. The results you would expect of Labour now haven't been realistic for almost 10 years, so you're holding them to an unreachable standard as far as that is concerned. | |
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| "Decent" Tories on 10:34 - Dec 2 with 1790 views | Herbivore |
| "Decent" Tories on 10:30 - Dec 2 by lowhouseblue |
i have but you weren't listening.
we can all agree that any credible opposition would win an election against this awful tory government with a landslide, so let's see. |
You haven't accounted for it at all. And you've now doubled down by calling all Labour voters nutters. Just under 13m nutters is quite a lot, no? Or maybe you're just being silly as usual. | |
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