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Keane, Rowe and Roberts 12:53 - May 18 with 4293 viewsBluefish

are all better at football than Edwards. The difference is that he cost a fee and is presuambly having it spread over the contract

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 12:58 - May 18 with 3018 viewsChutney

Why would that make a difference?
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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:01 - May 18 with 3001 viewsBluefish

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 12:58 - May 18 by Chutney

Why would that make a difference?


If we let him go we would have put through the remaining amount in one go. Possibly doesn't make a difference and maybe it is about resale value. He is a terrible player though, lots of pace and no ability

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:04 - May 18 with 2980 viewsChutney

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:01 - May 18 by Bluefish

If we let him go we would have put through the remaining amount in one go. Possibly doesn't make a difference and maybe it is about resale value. He is a terrible player though, lots of pace and no ability


Unlikely to be a consideration given the relatively small amount we paid for him. Would only be an impact on paper anyway. A club isn't going to offer a player they don't want a new contract to avoid an accounting adjustment.

He's not a terrible player. He's played in a crap side (largely out of position) under 2 crap managers. You don't become a bad player overnight. He should be plenty strong enough at this level if deployed properly by a manager who knows what he's doing. The same can be said for a number of our players.
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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:09 - May 18 with 2955 viewsBluefish

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:04 - May 18 by Chutney

Unlikely to be a consideration given the relatively small amount we paid for him. Would only be an impact on paper anyway. A club isn't going to offer a player they don't want a new contract to avoid an accounting adjustment.

He's not a terrible player. He's played in a crap side (largely out of position) under 2 crap managers. You don't become a bad player overnight. He should be plenty strong enough at this level if deployed properly by a manager who knows what he's doing. The same can be said for a number of our players.


He has no touch and no awareness of the game. It isn't a rough patch he is just very poor

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:13 - May 18 with 2943 viewsBlueBadger

'Better than Edwards' isn't really much of a reason to keep them though, is it?

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:14 - May 18 with 2936 viewsBluefish

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:13 - May 18 by BlueBadger

'Better than Edwards' isn't really much of a reason to keep them though, is it?


Agreed, it was more just that we shouldn't keep Edwards. He is worse than Lee martin

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:17 - May 18 with 2924 viewsBlueBadger

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:04 - May 18 by Chutney

Unlikely to be a consideration given the relatively small amount we paid for him. Would only be an impact on paper anyway. A club isn't going to offer a player they don't want a new contract to avoid an accounting adjustment.

He's not a terrible player. He's played in a crap side (largely out of position) under 2 crap managers. You don't become a bad player overnight. He should be plenty strong enough at this level if deployed properly by a manager who knows what he's doing. The same can be said for a number of our players.


Last season he looked like a competent league 1 player. Trouble is, he was playing in the Championship. This season, he's looked like a competent league 2 player...

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:20 - May 18 with 2906 viewspointofblue

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:17 - May 18 by BlueBadger

Last season he looked like a competent league 1 player. Trouble is, he was playing in the Championship. This season, he's looked like a competent league 2 player...


That could be said for entire squad except for Woolfenden, Vincent-Young and Downes.

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:22 - May 18 with 2900 viewsSomethingBlue

Never seen much in Rowe, to be honest.

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:25 - May 18 with 2889 viewsChutney

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:17 - May 18 by BlueBadger

Last season he looked like a competent league 1 player. Trouble is, he was playing in the Championship. This season, he's looked like a competent league 2 player...


I don't think he's a world beater by any means, I just think the 1 thing we've learned is that any departures aren't going to be replaced by ME sticking his hands in his pockets. Better the devil you know sometimes, as we would only lose Edwards for nothing and be scratching around on deadline day for Simon Dawkins.
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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:27 - May 18 with 2883 viewsBluefish

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:22 - May 18 by SomethingBlue

Never seen much in Rowe, to be honest.


Looked good at forest a few years ago and at Burton this season. He has done it in patches and clearly has ability but we just couldn't find a system not could he keep fit. Not saying we should have kept him but he is miles above Edwards. He also did well onkine to get into that Lincoln side

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:27 - May 18 with 2878 viewsJakeITFC

You wouldn't amortise the fee over an extended contract I don't think (even if it is an option).

But we make a multi-millions pound loss anyway and the value of his wages are probably larger than the write down anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:27 - May 18 with 2880 viewsDarth_Koont

Controversial, maybe. But after despairing over Edwards in a wide midfielder role, he was relatively decent as a RWB. Certainly one learning his way. His work rate and pace are good enough to get him out of poor defensive positions too. With the ball, he seemed much better having space to run into instead of always looking a bit lacking as a midfielder when he was more often back to goal and needed to link up play.

Obviously we've got KVY coming back but Edwards is cover there and more normally probably could do the job of an out-an-out wide forward where again it would be about running into space more than hold-up/link-up play.

We've got flawed players like Edwards because we're in League One. We just need to play more to their strengths rather than exposing those weaknesses. But this seems to be where Lambert and Hurst struggle. They've too often succeeded in making teams that are even less than the sum of their individual parts.

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:29 - May 18 with 2873 viewsHerbivore

Assuming the fee was spread over the course of his contract we would finish paying it in June, so I doubt that's a consideration. He's played more football than the others and he plays in a position where we are woefully short of cover so I see the logic in keeping him. I don't think there's much of a case that Roberts is a better footballer, that's your usual hyperbole. Whilst Rowe (arguably) and Keane (less arguably) might have more ability, neither has made much of a contribution over their time here.

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:29 - May 18 with 2865 viewsDanTheMan

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:27 - May 18 by Darth_Koont

Controversial, maybe. But after despairing over Edwards in a wide midfielder role, he was relatively decent as a RWB. Certainly one learning his way. His work rate and pace are good enough to get him out of poor defensive positions too. With the ball, he seemed much better having space to run into instead of always looking a bit lacking as a midfielder when he was more often back to goal and needed to link up play.

Obviously we've got KVY coming back but Edwards is cover there and more normally probably could do the job of an out-an-out wide forward where again it would be about running into space more than hold-up/link-up play.

We've got flawed players like Edwards because we're in League One. We just need to play more to their strengths rather than exposing those weaknesses. But this seems to be where Lambert and Hurst struggle. They've too often succeeded in making teams that are even less than the sum of their individual parts.


Agreed.

I think especially with Edwards, he can do a job in multiple positions, which is fairly useful. He's obviously not the best player but he's not a bad option, especially from the bench.

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:33 - May 18 with 2845 viewsBluefish

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:29 - May 18 by Herbivore

Assuming the fee was spread over the course of his contract we would finish paying it in June, so I doubt that's a consideration. He's played more football than the others and he plays in a position where we are woefully short of cover so I see the logic in keeping him. I don't think there's much of a case that Roberts is a better footballer, that's your usual hyperbole. Whilst Rowe (arguably) and Keane (less arguably) might have more ability, neither has made much of a contribution over their time here.


You don't think there is a lot to choose between the footballing ability of Keane and Edwards? Wow! Their touches are a mile apart....almost literally


This is worse than you defending PRP for so long

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:42 - May 18 with 2817 viewsHerbivore

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:33 - May 18 by Bluefish

You don't think there is a lot to choose between the footballing ability of Keane and Edwards? Wow! Their touches are a mile apart....almost literally


This is worse than you defending PRP for so long



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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:43 - May 18 with 2812 viewsGarv

What have Rowe and Roberts shown to suggest they are better than Edwards?

And I don't love Edwards by any stretch, though he probably deserves another year.

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:46 - May 18 with 2799 viewsBluefish

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:43 - May 18 by Garv

What have Rowe and Roberts shown to suggest they are better than Edwards?

And I don't love Edwards by any stretch, though he probably deserves another year.


They control the football properly and don't drift through games aimlessly

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:59 - May 18 with 2773 viewsDubtractor

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:33 - May 18 by Bluefish

You don't think there is a lot to choose between the footballing ability of Keane and Edwards? Wow! Their touches are a mile apart....almost literally


This is worse than you defending PRP for so long


You need to learn to read mate!

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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 14:11 - May 18 with 2748 viewsChutney

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:46 - May 18 by Bluefish

They control the football properly and don't drift through games aimlessly


Are we talking about the same Roberts? Don't get me wrong, he put himself about a bit but there was no evidence that he could hit a cows a*se with a banjo, and his touch was garbage.
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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 14:15 - May 18 with 2735 viewsRobTheMonk

Keane has barely ever stayed fit for any duration, Rowe shows glimpses but not enough and Roberts has never really done anything.

Skuse was always going to stay and in this league that's fine. Edwards will be fine once he's got someone behind him allowing him to go forwards.

Right decisions all round for me.
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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 14:19 - May 18 with 2720 viewsBluefish

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 13:59 - May 18 by Dubtractor

You need to learn to read mate!


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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 14:44 - May 18 with 2653 viewsIpswichKnight

Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 14:15 - May 18 by RobTheMonk

Keane has barely ever stayed fit for any duration, Rowe shows glimpses but not enough and Roberts has never really done anything.

Skuse was always going to stay and in this league that's fine. Edwards will be fine once he's got someone behind him allowing him to go forwards.

Right decisions all round for me.


Suspect Edwards is being signed as cover for KVY in the main and probably back up I hope for Lankester, not such a bad option to have on the bench to cover 2 positions.

Rowe is interesting for whatever reason when he was in the side we won an awful lot of games and since he's been injured we could barely beat a wet paper bag on Felixstowe sea front. Is he better than Dobra and Lankester I'd say no and lets hope Lambert or someone else uses them out wide next season, though if it's Lambert it will be Judge out wide....again.
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Keane, Rowe and Roberts on 15:32 - May 18 with 2589 viewsBryanPlug

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