| Gunboats in the channel 09:03 - Dec 12 with 2963 views | tractordownsouth |
Is now a proposal by the Daily Mail and Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski on Twitter. They're acting like it's a game of Call of Duty ffs.
I think we should offer free penis enlargements to anyone suggesting this as a serious option - they clearly need it. |  |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 09:06 - Dec 12 with 2248 views | StokieBlue |
Got to protect that 0.1% of GDP or whatever fishing amounts to.
Nationalistic idiots.
I wonder if all the nationalistic tweets about fishing have cost more in energy costs than the revenues that fishing actually brings into the UK.
I'll leave someone else to work it out and look back later.
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| Gunboats in the channel on 09:06 - Dec 12 with 2245 views | Guthrum |
Is he, personally, going to stand on deck and order them to shoot? Would he still be there if French ships shoot back? |  |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 09:09 - Dec 12 with 2232 views | tractordownsouth |
| Gunboats in the channel on 09:06 - Dec 12 by Guthrum |
Is he, personally, going to stand on deck and order them to shoot? Would he still be there if French ships shoot back? |
Nah he's getting his mate to do it instead
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| Gunboats in the channel on 09:10 - Dec 12 with 2227 views | footers |
1st January ffs, not January 1st.
Jesus, we leave the EU only to fall into the arms of the yanks.
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| Gunboats in the channel on 09:19 - Dec 12 with 2173 views | le2blue |
| Gunboats in the channel on 09:06 - Dec 12 by StokieBlue |
Got to protect that 0.1% of GDP or whatever fishing amounts to.
Nationalistic idiots.
I wonder if all the nationalistic tweets about fishing have cost more in energy costs than the revenues that fishing actually brings into the UK.
I'll leave someone else to work it out and look back later.
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Read something that puts it al into context, if the government invested the £2bn they put into an excel based failed track and trace system into fishing, they’d cover the GDP contribution for 49 years.
Also that MP for Shrewsbury failed to turn up for the parliamentary debate about the maternity hospital scandal in his own constituency this week, obviously has his priorities sorted. |  | | |
| Gunboats in the channel on 09:34 - Dec 12 with 2102 views | factual_blue |
| Gunboats in the channel on 09:10 - Dec 12 by footers |
1st January ffs, not January 1st.
Jesus, we leave the EU only to fall into the arms of the yanks.
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1 January, if we're (correctly) following the MHRA style guide. |  |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 11:20 - Dec 12 with 1995 views | unstableblue |
That Daily Mail front cover just sums the little englander, french/Europe demonisation, and pining for empire that has got us into this complete mess... |  |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 11:32 - Dec 12 with 1980 views | Freddies_Ears |
I really hope we do impound a french fishing boat. the rest of their fleet will blockade their ports within minutes, and their farmer mates will blockade Eurotunnel in a sign of solidarity! |  | | |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:16 - Dec 12 with 1912 views | CrayonKing |
Presumably the French fishing fleets, that we patriotically sold our fishing quotas to, would be able to file a complaint with the WTO if we don't honour those deals?
And people like Daniel Kawczynski would of course respect the ruling, because WTO rules are what they want...right?
Edit: Removed the word idiots, because any background reading about DK shows he's acting in bad faith rather than out of idiocy. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 12:38]
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:22 - Dec 12 with 1886 views | Blue12345 |
| Gunboats in the channel on 09:06 - Dec 12 by StokieBlue |
Got to protect that 0.1% of GDP or whatever fishing amounts to.
Nationalistic idiots.
I wonder if all the nationalistic tweets about fishing have cost more in energy costs than the revenues that fishing actually brings into the UK.
I'll leave someone else to work it out and look back later.
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Quite honestly I replied a lengthy reply but I don’t want to get in to a debate.
I’ve deleted it, enjoy your weekend. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 12:26]
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:23 - Dec 12 with 1870 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Gunboats in the channel on 11:20 - Dec 12 by unstableblue |
That Daily Mail front cover just sums the little englander, french/Europe demonisation, and pining for empire that has got us into this complete mess... |
Equally sad, desperate and dangerous isn’t. Thoroughly embarrassing really given this is all playing out on an international stage. |  |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:25 - Dec 12 with 1865 views | Plums |
I assume we’re going to fire scotch eggs at them as there’s has apparently been a massive spike in demand after a ridiculous debate about whether they’re ‘substantial’ or not.
Meanwhile back in reality, more Brits have died of Covid this year than were killed by the Luftwaffe yet that’s apparently not something we should hold our politicians to account for.
What on earth has this country become since the recent high of 2012?? |  |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:29 - Dec 12 with 1856 views | CrayonKing |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:22 - Dec 12 by Blue12345 |
Quite honestly I replied a lengthy reply but I don’t want to get in to a debate.
I’ve deleted it, enjoy your weekend. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 12:26]
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If you think Daniel Kawczynski actually cares about the people affected then I suspect you might be disappointed.
Edit: Why the deletion? I thought it was a good post [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 12:32]
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:33 - Dec 12 with 1839 views | gordon |
These people have been desperate for the EU to treat us like a third country for however many years, and now the EU is actually getting bored with our nonsense, not affording us special treatment anymore, and actually treating us like a third party, these people are going to lose it pretty quickly.
Could get really messy because it will be very difficult for Boris to try and reign them in when he's literally ridden to power on the back of egging them on for 20 years. |  | | |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:33 - Dec 12 with 1829 views | gazzer1999 |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:22 - Dec 12 by Blue12345 |
Quite honestly I replied a lengthy reply but I don’t want to get in to a debate.
I’ve deleted it, enjoy your weekend. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 12:26]
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I agree with your sentiments, regarding people and their livelihoods. My wife used to live in Hull when it was a very vibrant fishing port, if you have visited there in the last 20-25 years you would see how it has become without all the fishing that was on a massive scale before. I heard recently that for every job at sea it creates 10 ashore related to fishing. I for one will be happy that there is no super trawlers electric stunning the fish and hoovering up all around. Hopefully it will allow the fish stocks to replenish.
Brexit is bad for everyone in some way, but there will always be some good as well. |  | | |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:42 - Dec 12 with 1781 views | footers |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:33 - Dec 12 by gazzer1999 |
I agree with your sentiments, regarding people and their livelihoods. My wife used to live in Hull when it was a very vibrant fishing port, if you have visited there in the last 20-25 years you would see how it has become without all the fishing that was on a massive scale before. I heard recently that for every job at sea it creates 10 ashore related to fishing. I for one will be happy that there is no super trawlers electric stunning the fish and hoovering up all around. Hopefully it will allow the fish stocks to replenish.
Brexit is bad for everyone in some way, but there will always be some good as well. |
If you think Brexit will stop industrial fishing and revitalise fishing towns then you are very much mistaken. Just as you are on most things. | |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:44 - Dec 12 with 1764 views | gazzer1999 |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:42 - Dec 12 by footers |
If you think Brexit will stop industrial fishing and revitalise fishing towns then you are very much mistaken. Just as you are on most things. |
Opinions are like backsides everyone has one. Go and Troll someone else please you are getting boring. | | | |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:47 - Dec 12 with 1744 views | footers |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:44 - Dec 12 by gazzer1999 |
Opinions are like backsides everyone has one. Go and Troll someone else please you are getting boring. |
Yes, but mine are based in fact and reality. Yours is based on what your wife reckons about Hull.
My dad and grandad were both Lowestoft trawlermen and I don't think they will be taking Annabelle out to sea any time soon. Why? Because the Tories sold our fishing quotas to European fishing companies.
But if you want to believe what uncle Nige and some bloke down the pub reckons, then good for you. | |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:48 - Dec 12 with 1735 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:16 - Dec 12 by CrayonKing |
Presumably the French fishing fleets, that we patriotically sold our fishing quotas to, would be able to file a complaint with the WTO if we don't honour those deals?
And people like Daniel Kawczynski would of course respect the ruling, because WTO rules are what they want...right?
Edit: Removed the word idiots, because any background reading about DK shows he's acting in bad faith rather than out of idiocy. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 12:38]
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Just a point of order here.
Licences paid to fish our waters are legally finished once we leave - unless we agree otherwise. |  |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:49 - Dec 12 with 1728 views | gazzer1999 |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:47 - Dec 12 by footers |
Yes, but mine are based in fact and reality. Yours is based on what your wife reckons about Hull.
My dad and grandad were both Lowestoft trawlermen and I don't think they will be taking Annabelle out to sea any time soon. Why? Because the Tories sold our fishing quotas to European fishing companies.
But if you want to believe what uncle Nige and some bloke down the pub reckons, then good for you. |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:51 - Dec 12 with 1716 views | footers |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:49 - Dec 12 by gazzer1999 |
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Yeah, you really made me look like a tit there. Well played.  | |
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:53 - Dec 12 with 1709 views | m14_blue |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:22 - Dec 12 by Blue12345 |
Quite honestly I replied a lengthy reply but I don’t want to get in to a debate.
I’ve deleted it, enjoy your weekend. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 12:26]
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It was a fair point, well argued.
I think fishing is the one area where we may have a genuine grievance with the EU, which is why brexiteers are so utterly obsessed by it.
The problem is, the industry is being used by Boris et al as a useful pawn, they wouldn’t piss on a working class fisherman if they were on fire.
Needless to say, the number of livelihoods likely to be decimated by a no deal Brexit absolutely dwarfs the number involved in fishing, which I think was stokie’s point. He wasn’t trying to be dismissive of the individual suffering of fishermen and their communities, but governments need to act in the interests of the country as a whole. | | | |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:53 - Dec 12 with 1703 views | Ryorry |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:33 - Dec 12 by gazzer1999 |
I agree with your sentiments, regarding people and their livelihoods. My wife used to live in Hull when it was a very vibrant fishing port, if you have visited there in the last 20-25 years you would see how it has become without all the fishing that was on a massive scale before. I heard recently that for every job at sea it creates 10 ashore related to fishing. I for one will be happy that there is no super trawlers electric stunning the fish and hoovering up all around. Hopefully it will allow the fish stocks to replenish.
Brexit is bad for everyone in some way, but there will always be some good as well. |
Worth a read -
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| Gunboats in the channel on 12:57 - Dec 12 with 1680 views | gazzer1999 |
| Gunboats in the channel on 12:51 - Dec 12 by footers |
Yeah, you really made me look like a tit there. Well played. |
Sorry you did that all on your own, check your facts or go to Hull and see for yourself and speak to a few people there and see if they agree with you. Ask yourself why the red wall collapsed while you are at it.
As I said earlier about opinions, everyone has one. I will respect yours, just be kinder to people that differ from yours, that's what makes a democracy. | | | |
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