| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) 14:23 - Feb 2 with 4206 views | Mercian |
If we let it spread unhindered we would be looking at a 125,000 deaths, if we act now it will stand between 20-30,000.
Today we stand at 107,000 and will almost surely have more than 125,000 before this is over.
We were also told the restrictions would last for 12 weeks before we can transition back to normality. 11 months later we still have no sign of that happening. We have been lied to over and over again. |  | | |  |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:25 - Feb 2 with 2217 views | factual_blue |
Welcome to boris johnson's world. |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:38 - Feb 2 with 2160 views | BlueBadger |
It's almost like this whole thing has been managed atrociously by far right thickos with more interest in feathering the nests of their incompetent mates rather than protecting the elderly and vulnerable of this country. |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:38 - Feb 2 with 2156 views | Steve_M |
How many do you think would have died without restrictions? |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:40 - Feb 2 with 2138 views | tractor_lady |
Not that I am a Boris fan I really cannot stand the guy, however this is an ever changing beast and I don’t think anyone could have predicted that we would still be where we are today.... |  | | |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:40 - Feb 2 with 2137 views | SpruceMoose |
This is what happens when people elect a government based on funny hair, hatred of the poor, distrust of other nations and good old fashioned selfishness.
If you don't like it, remember, don't vote Conservative. Not even once. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:41 - Feb 2 with 2135 views | BlueBadger |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:40 - Feb 2 by tractor_lady |
Not that I am a Boris fan I really cannot stand the guy, however this is an ever changing beast and I don’t think anyone could have predicted that we would still be where we are today.... |
...apart from all the epidemiologists and virologists and assorted healthcare professionals and even idiots like me who said things like 'winter is going to be catastrophic and they're sleepwalking into it'. | |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:42 - Feb 2 with 2123 views | SpruceMoose |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:40 - Feb 2 by tractor_lady |
Not that I am a Boris fan I really cannot stand the guy, however this is an ever changing beast and I don’t think anyone could have predicted that we would still be where we are today.... |
Look at who we have in charge.
It was very predictable.
This is the result of voting for 'joke' candidates. You get 'joke' leaders, and 'joke' responses to crises. [Post edited 2 Feb 2021 14:43]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:43 - Feb 2 with 2117 views | Mercian |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:38 - Feb 2 by Steve_M |
How many do you think would have died without restrictions? |
A lot more but that is not the point. We were told 125,000. | | | |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:43 - Feb 2 with 2104 views | StokieBlue |
Initial studies showed deaths far higher than 125,000 if left unchecked and the deaths with restrictions were based around the knowledge at the time which was not really right with regards to transmission vectors and couldn't account for the new variant which has shifted things hugely over the last 2 months. There have also clearly been issues around the management of the response by the government.
I'm not really sure what your point is to be honest. How many would have died without restrictions? Are you mad about the restrictions or mad that the science changes over time as more is known?
Do you just think they should have lifted restrictions after those 12 weeks and let everything run riot?
Can you clarify your point?
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:44 - Feb 2 with 2096 views | BlueBadger |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:42 - Feb 2 by SpruceMoose |
Look at who we have in charge.
It was very predictable.
This is the result of voting for 'joke' candidates. You get 'joke' leaders, and 'joke' responses to crises. [Post edited 2 Feb 2021 14:43]
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Yes, but the LABOUR PARTY | |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:44 - Feb 2 with 2094 views | SpruceMoose |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:43 - Feb 2 by Mercian |
A lot more but that is not the point. We were told 125,000. |
They also said it was fine to go on foreign holidays and pub crawls and driving trips to make sure you can see.
They've made the whole thing up, I'd love to say 'from start to finish', but they haven't finished yet. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:46 - Feb 2 with 2088 views | BlueBadger |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:43 - Feb 2 by Mercian |
A lot more but that is not the point. We were told 125,000. |
....if we pursued the disastrous 'herd immunity' strategy that we were on.
But you knew that, you just wanted to brainfart your covidiot bullsh1t out and misjudged your audience.
Not even Paz is thick enough to run with this line. [Post edited 2 Feb 2021 14:49]
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:47 - Feb 2 with 2079 views | StokieBlue |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:43 - Feb 2 by Mercian |
A lot more but that is not the point. We were told 125,000. |
This is the kind of response I expect from a child who was told they would get a dessert but then they don't.
C19 doesn't just stop when it hits the figure outlined in a press conference 11 months ago, this isn't even the same C19 as 11 months ago.
What exactly is your point?
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:50 - Feb 2 with 2041 views | usm |
What would you have them say? You think they have the power of foresight? Its easy looking back and criticising. They got a lot wrong, sure, but none of us knew what was coming. |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:51 - Feb 2 with 2031 views | Swansea_Blue |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:40 - Feb 2 by tractor_lady |
Not that I am a Boris fan I really cannot stand the guy, however this is an ever changing beast and I don’t think anyone could have predicted that we would still be where we are today.... |
Apart from all the people who did of course. He's ignored or prevaricated over advice every step of the way. He's still doing it (news leaders today were about him not acting on Sage warnings about the SA variant).
The UK's not alone in managing this thing badly, but we've been one of the worse. Thankfully the vaccine response has gone well so far; it's a rare moment of success. And even that they can't be mature about, crowing about being world leaders (when we're strictly behind countries like Israel and some of the Middle East in rates of vaccinations). |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:52 - Feb 2 with 2024 views | stantheman |
I thought there was a scientist in April 2020 who said that deaths from covid could be expected to reach 500,000 in a population similar to ours with a high density. He was accused of scaremongering I think because it was based on doing nothing to minimise the spread. Could be wrong but I am sure that has stuck in my memory bank. |  | | |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:52 - Feb 2 with 2006 views | Metal_Hacker |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:50 - Feb 2 by usm |
What would you have them say? You think they have the power of foresight? Its easy looking back and criticising. They got a lot wrong, sure, but none of us knew what was coming. |
In all fairness a lot of people outside of politics KNEW what was coming all along BUT the politicians didn't listen for the most |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:53 - Feb 2 with 2003 views | J2BLUE |
Even now they refuse to act. They were told to enforce quarantine for anyone entering the country. They didn't bother. Now the SA variant is here.
Just how f##king many times do they need to get it wrong? Gross incompetence across the board. When some of these SAGE guys leave the group or retire etc, they will no doubt have some incredible stories to tell. The government have so many questions to answer. I understand this kind of thing hasn't happened before in our lifetime (at least to this level) but there have been multiple cases of them being clearly warned in advance of bad things happening and then they've ignored it. Then guess what? The bad things happen.
I have no idea how Labour, as uninspiring as they are, don't have a ten point lead in the polls. It's bad when people act according to what they think is best and get it wrong. It's far worse then they are warned and choose to ignore it and get it wrong. The very group formed to give advice in situations like this were ignored. F##k the Tories. The public should be furious with how they've handled this pandemic. |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:53 - Feb 2 with 2003 views | Mercian |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:47 - Feb 2 by StokieBlue |
This is the kind of response I expect from a child who was told they would get a dessert but then they don't.
C19 doesn't just stop when it hits the figure outlined in a press conference 11 months ago, this isn't even the same C19 as 11 months ago.
What exactly is your point?
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I take offence to that. We have been treated like children since day 1. Why did they offer the carrot if there was no hope of us receiving it? | | | |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:54 - Feb 2 with 1981 views | SpruceMoose |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:53 - Feb 2 by J2BLUE |
Even now they refuse to act. They were told to enforce quarantine for anyone entering the country. They didn't bother. Now the SA variant is here.
Just how f##king many times do they need to get it wrong? Gross incompetence across the board. When some of these SAGE guys leave the group or retire etc, they will no doubt have some incredible stories to tell. The government have so many questions to answer. I understand this kind of thing hasn't happened before in our lifetime (at least to this level) but there have been multiple cases of them being clearly warned in advance of bad things happening and then they've ignored it. Then guess what? The bad things happen.
I have no idea how Labour, as uninspiring as they are, don't have a ten point lead in the polls. It's bad when people act according to what they think is best and get it wrong. It's far worse then they are warned and choose to ignore it and get it wrong. The very group formed to give advice in situations like this were ignored. F##k the Tories. The public should be furious with how they've handled this pandemic. |
There are an awful lot of blinkered, selfish, thick British voters.
It's the only explanation. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:55 - Feb 2 with 1965 views | usm |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:52 - Feb 2 by Metal_Hacker |
In all fairness a lot of people outside of politics KNEW what was coming all along BUT the politicians didn't listen for the most |
Aah, so they do have the power of foresight, thats ok then.
Who are these people, I'd like to know who is going to replace Paul lambert, and when? | |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:56 - Feb 2 with 1945 views | SpruceMoose |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:53 - Feb 2 by Mercian |
I take offence to that. We have been treated like children since day 1. Why did they offer the carrot if there was no hope of us receiving it? |
It wasn't a carrot and stick situation.
You weren't being offered a carrot. You were being told that carnage was coming without action.
Not driving your car into a brick wall isn't being offered a carrot.
The issue is that they find lying so easy that they forgot to stop. The other issue is that so many people still seem to have faith in them. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:57 - Feb 2 with 1938 views | Metal_Hacker |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:55 - Feb 2 by usm |
Aah, so they do have the power of foresight, thats ok then.
Who are these people, I'd like to know who is going to replace Paul lambert, and when? |
I've always wished scientists and virologists would take over from Evans at our club | |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:57 - Feb 2 with 1942 views | clive_baker |
For me the issue is 2 fold, 1) we're governed by inept fools that haven't done a good enough job at managing this situations, but 2) why on earth they ever stood up in March, with so much uncertainty and attempted to put numbers on this thing I'll never know.
25,000 as you say would be <1/4 of the damage we've seen, or <400 deaths per 1m of the population. There isn't a comparable country in Europe with numbers anything like that low. |  |
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| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 15:01 - Feb 2 with 1910 views | StokieBlue |
| In March 2020 we were told (Coronavirus) on 14:53 - Feb 2 by Mercian |
I take offence to that. We have been treated like children since day 1. Why did they offer the carrot if there was no hope of us receiving it? |
That's not what happened though, you are being revisionist.
I've already pointed out that your 125,000 number is incorrect and then myself and others have pointed out how things have changed over 11 months both with regards to the virus and the government response.
You've still not said what your actual point is. What are you upset about specifically? Nobody offered you a carrot, this wasn't a choice with a reward, it's a horrible thing that has happened.
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