| Paul Lambert 10:23 - Feb 26 with 1776 views | Uea_Blue |
If it turns out that Lambert drastically improves our form causing a push for automatic promotion places resulting in promotion, having outsted Jackson and Nolan justifying they were bad influences, will the support be there for him?
Wondering if he has lost the opportunity to ever recover his relationship with the fans. [Post edited 26 Feb 2021 10:26]
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| Paul Lambert on 10:29 - Feb 26 with 1703 views | Metal_Hacker |
Horse and bolted springs to mind |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 10:29 - Feb 26 with 1704 views | BlueBadger |
There's a plenty of gullible and easily pleased out there who'll fold like cheap linen if we got promoted in spite of his efforts.
Hell, look how Unstableblue and Plugsy get excited after rote wins and goalless draws. [Post edited 26 Feb 2021 11:46]
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| Paul Lambert on 10:34 - Feb 26 with 1689 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Even if we get promoted I'd like to see him leave.
He's been poor for 2.5 years, a good 3 months wouldn't make up for that.
The way he treats people also stinks, and is not fitting of a manager, for that he should also go.
I'm amazed at how much good will ONE WIN against Hull can bring a manager with such an appalling record. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 10:38 - Feb 26 with 1637 views | Herbivore |
It's not going to happen. But even if we went on a run and he took us up somehow he's shown so little nous in 2 and a half years that I'd want him gone. I'd have no faith at all in his ability to even make a fight of keeping us in the Championship. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 10:45 - Feb 26 with 1579 views | WeWereZombies |
If Lambert is the manager to put Evans straight and get the club back on course (I'm not convinced he is but he certainly seems to be giving it a better go than Hurst) then so be it. Let him stay in position until things are firmed up and then pass it on to someone else. Maybe that will coincide with Nigel Pearson being available again. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 10:45 - Feb 26 with 1582 views | Steve_M |
It's too far gone now, given he was here at the start of this season he might have been able to turn things round with the fans round had the early season form continued.
However, the downturn in form in November and the general attitude - exiling players, banning Phil, all of which seem to be symptomatic of his wider approach - are counter-productive for the club. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 10:50 - Feb 26 with 1548 views | dirtyboy |
| Paul Lambert on 10:34 - Feb 26 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Even if we get promoted I'd like to see him leave.
He's been poor for 2.5 years, a good 3 months wouldn't make up for that.
The way he treats people also stinks, and is not fitting of a manager, for that he should also go.
I'm amazed at how much good will ONE WIN against Hull can bring a manager with such an appalling record. |
I don't think the win gave much goodwill to the manager, it brought a bit of happiness to those who want to watch their team play and not be dismal in spite of the manager. |  | | |
| Paul Lambert on 10:52 - Feb 26 with 1539 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Paul Lambert on 10:50 - Feb 26 by dirtyboy |
I don't think the win gave much goodwill to the manager, it brought a bit of happiness to those who want to watch their team play and not be dismal in spite of the manager. |
Agree to differ. | |
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| Paul Lambert on 10:55 - Feb 26 with 1524 views | Hipsterectomy |
He's a contemptible arsehole, who knew that Steve Evans was the good Glaswegian all along in their little spat |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:00 - Feb 26 with 1486 views | MrTown |
If Lambert sees us to promotion, then I will be the very first to kiss his arse.
Can't see it, but if he gets the job done, then certainly will gain support.
That is the merry-go-round of a football fan - you lose matches, fans are angry, you win matches, fans are happy.
Too many I feel would still foolishly begrudge him were he to take us to promotion. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:02 - Feb 26 with 1464 views | N2_Blue |
I'd be thankful for promotion from a seemingly impossible position but for me the damage is done.
Even if on field performance drastically improves his demeanour, comments, actions throughout this season mean i could never support him like i normally would for any manager that won us a promotion.
I think it's so unlikely it's not even worth worrying about. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:09 - Feb 26 with 1424 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Paul Lambert on 11:02 - Feb 26 by N2_Blue |
I'd be thankful for promotion from a seemingly impossible position but for me the damage is done.
Even if on field performance drastically improves his demeanour, comments, actions throughout this season mean i could never support him like i normally would for any manager that won us a promotion.
I think it's so unlikely it's not even worth worrying about. |
We have to remember he put us in that impossible position. | |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:14 - Feb 26 with 1404 views | Steve_M |
| Paul Lambert on 10:55 - Feb 26 by Hipsterectomy |
He's a contemptible arsehole, who knew that Steve Evans was the good Glaswegian all along in their little spat |
Not really, at least Lambert doesn't have any criminal convictions. | |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:15 - Feb 26 with 1400 views | jayessess |
Absolutely not. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:16 - Feb 26 with 1397 views | Swansea_Blue |
As a whole, I suspect there will be. If form upturns sharply and we get promoted most will be happy enough. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:19 - Feb 26 with 1386 views | N2_Blue |
| Paul Lambert on 11:09 - Feb 26 by Marshalls_Mullet |
We have to remember he put us in that impossible position. |
Absolutely, I'd still rather part ways even if promotion happened and have a manager who knew what he was doing and had respect for others. | |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:32 - Feb 26 with 1331 views | BiGDonnie |
| Paul Lambert on 10:34 - Feb 26 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Even if we get promoted I'd like to see him leave.
He's been poor for 2.5 years, a good 3 months wouldn't make up for that.
The way he treats people also stinks, and is not fitting of a manager, for that he should also go.
I'm amazed at how much good will ONE WIN against Hull can bring a manager with such an appalling record. |
So let's say this did happen. He'd have to win about 90% of the remaining games, meaning we'd be on the best run of form in 15 years and you'd still want him gone? Madness.
It won't happen though. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:37 - Feb 26 with 1301 views | Herbivore |
| Paul Lambert on 11:32 - Feb 26 by BiGDonnie |
So let's say this did happen. He'd have to win about 90% of the remaining games, meaning we'd be on the best run of form in 15 years and you'd still want him gone? Madness.
It won't happen though. |
We're in the third division and he's the one who has managed us to a position where we need to go on that kind of run to go up. We shouldn't even still be in this league with the resources at his disposal, so even if by some miracle it clicks and he takes us up it's a year too late and we still have too much evidence that he's actually pretty hopeless as a manager. | |
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| Paul Lambert on 11:41 - Feb 26 with 1281 views | WeWereZombies |
| Paul Lambert on 11:32 - Feb 26 by BiGDonnie |
So let's say this did happen. He'd have to win about 90% of the remaining games, meaning we'd be on the best run of form in 15 years and you'd still want him gone? Madness.
It won't happen though. |
We don't need to win 90% of the remaining games, do we? Although we would need to win the play-offs if we lost more than, say, 25% of the remaining games. Almost that time of the season where Phil wheels out the league finish calculator... | |
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| Paul Lambert on 13:00 - Feb 26 with 1160 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Paul Lambert on 11:32 - Feb 26 by BiGDonnie |
So let's say this did happen. He'd have to win about 90% of the remaining games, meaning we'd be on the best run of form in 15 years and you'd still want him gone? Madness.
It won't happen though. |
If we won 90% of our remaining games then we would likely go up as champions. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 13:25 - Feb 26 with 1102 views | unstableblue |
I'm less bothered about his persona and all the PR Paul stuff, I think he was trying to make an effort with the fans, old players and groups like Blue Action at the start. But he really does lack some of the comms skills for that connection to endure when results have failed. And his press conference style is just a basket case at times.
I do get some of his messaging at the state of the club when he came in, I think the Hurst legacy, and then the tail end of Mick's reign caused the club issues - style, connection to academy philosophy of play. I remember Chambo admitting as much.
And I do think there is something in the player culture, senior players performing etc; just the hunger in the players and the accountability. Which Jackson/Nolan could be justified to be in that bracket.
BUT - I just don't think he's handled that Jackson situation well - the red was silly, but not the malice suggested. Also his management of the team photo with youths, not using Dobra, the malaise around Huws. NONE of it passes the sniff test.
And clearly HamGate and the press conferences are completely unacceptable.
As for the support returning for Lambert - I think Doncaster may see us dropping back again anyway, as I just don't feel the depth of coaching on defence and creating chances are there from Lambert. BUT - I do think the morale in the team looks good, some partnerships developing, squad is good and that might carry some further results.
I think that 99% of fans want Lambert out; i'd guesstimate 40-50% of fans are simply NEVER going to return to really backing him!! even if we get promoted. |  |
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| Paul Lambert on 13:45 - Feb 26 with 1027 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Paul Lambert on 13:25 - Feb 26 by unstableblue |
I'm less bothered about his persona and all the PR Paul stuff, I think he was trying to make an effort with the fans, old players and groups like Blue Action at the start. But he really does lack some of the comms skills for that connection to endure when results have failed. And his press conference style is just a basket case at times.
I do get some of his messaging at the state of the club when he came in, I think the Hurst legacy, and then the tail end of Mick's reign caused the club issues - style, connection to academy philosophy of play. I remember Chambo admitting as much.
And I do think there is something in the player culture, senior players performing etc; just the hunger in the players and the accountability. Which Jackson/Nolan could be justified to be in that bracket.
BUT - I just don't think he's handled that Jackson situation well - the red was silly, but not the malice suggested. Also his management of the team photo with youths, not using Dobra, the malaise around Huws. NONE of it passes the sniff test.
And clearly HamGate and the press conferences are completely unacceptable.
As for the support returning for Lambert - I think Doncaster may see us dropping back again anyway, as I just don't feel the depth of coaching on defence and creating chances are there from Lambert. BUT - I do think the morale in the team looks good, some partnerships developing, squad is good and that might carry some further results.
I think that 99% of fans want Lambert out; i'd guesstimate 40-50% of fans are simply NEVER going to return to really backing him!! even if we get promoted. |
You are the voice of reason. Though I suspect your figures are out in your final paragraph.
TWTD and the other, lesser, forums, FB etc, are where the more fervent supporters air their views. I should think that the great majority of supporters are the ones who attend several home matches per season and don't think much about football from one game to the next. Many of them are probably unaware that TWTD even exists. They don't have strong views on whether Lambert goes or not.
While the views of TWTD regulars seem to be close to unanimous, they probably represent the views of 10% of all supporters. | |
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| Paul Lambert on 13:56 - Feb 26 with 996 views | Churchman |
He won’t. We are in the middle of League One and fully deserve to be. It was a good win at Hull, but it changes nothing.
Lambert is a woeful manager and Evans is a dreadful owner. The club is a mess, abject decisions are the norm along with progressive decline.
I can’t imagine what they talked about yesterday. Shrinking chocolate bars maybe? |  | | |
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